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 Post subject: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:39 pm 

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64 gr. bonded bullet loaded by HSM for work use. Guess at about 3000 - 3100 fps. 25yards.
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Made it into the 4th jug and was inside.
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Pretty impressive for such a little guy!
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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:47 pm 

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David,
Is this the Nosler non catalogued bullet?
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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:52 pm 
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Scott,

Yes, it is the .224 cal 64 gr BSB (Bonded Solid Base) bullet.
Pretty impressive results.

I shot it out of my 22-250 at 3372 fps and recovered one in the 5th jug.
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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:01 pm 

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Scott I believe that Jim is right and that is the bullet they are loading. I feel pretty good about it penetrating glass, doors, and things of that nature and still doing what it's supposed to do. Pretty impressive. It was shot out of a Ruger mini-14.

Guess I should add that this obviously was from a .223 Remington in the mini-14.

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:06 pm 
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David,

The .224 cal 64 gr BSB was designed for a Gov't agency that wanted a bullet that would penetrate a car door with the window up or down and still inflict a lethal wound into a BG.
I am a believer that Nosler has succedded in doing just that.

I am going to put one through the shoulders of a WT deer this summer when we start crop damage hunts.

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:11 pm 

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JD338 wrote:
David,

The .224 cal 64 gr BSB was designed for a Gov't agency that wanted a bullet that would penetrate a car door with the window up or down and still inflict a lethal wound into a BG.
I am a believer that Nosler has succedded in doing just that.
Absolutely correct on that one! Even before they started doing the bonded bullets for this, we began using the Partitions if a door or something else like this would be encountered as they had tested a lot of bullets and they found the Partition worked better than the others they tested.

I am going to put one through the shoulders of a WT deer this summer when we start crop damage hunts.
I can't wait to see the result. I bet it works just perfectly for you with minimal bloodshot. It's going to act just like it's older brothers would! Nice summer fat whitetail will be really wonderful to eat also! I'm hungry now.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:22 pm 
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You were a busy boy David:) thats some great performance there too. Hey Nosler how about building some more like that like maybe a 250-275 gr protected point for the 35 Whelen :)

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:25 pm 
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David,

First up will be the 338 RUM with the 300 gr AB, hopefully at a longer range. Then the 22-250 with the 64 gr BSB.
Either way, fresh back staps on the grill. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:27 pm 

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gerry wrote:
You were a busy boy David:) thats some great performance there too. Hey Nosler how about building some more like that like maybe a 250-275 gr protected point for the 35 Whelen :)

I wasn't too busy Gerry, four shots, four kills! :o After I left and was down the road a ways, the only thing that came to my head was you idiot, why didn't you pull the .12 gauge out and shoot a slug through those things? I had water jugs left over and never thought about it till it was too late and I didn't want to turn around and go back. :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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gerry wrote:
You were a busy boy David:) thats some great performance there too. Hey Nosler how about building some more like that like maybe a 250-275 gr protected point for the 35 Whelen :)


Gerry,

A 275 gr BSB for the 35 Whelen would be just the ticket for the thicket.

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:43 pm 

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JD338 wrote:
gerry wrote:
You were a busy boy David:) thats some great performance there too. Hey Nosler how about building some more like that like maybe a 250-275 gr protected point for the 35 Whelen :)


Gerry,

A 275 gr BSB for the 35 Whelen would be just the ticket for the thicket.

JD338


Man you guys like em big and heavy. Maybe one of these days that 338-06 will come to fruition! I'm thinking about leaning towards that on that 03-A3 action I had talked about previously. 8) I guess I just need to save up now!

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6mm Remington wrote:
Man you guys like em big and heavy. Maybe one of these days that 338-06 will come to fruition! I'm thinking about leaning towards that on that 03-A3 action I had talked about previously. 8) I guess I just need to save up now!


That would be a cool build David. I would even sponsor you with your first bag of bullets if you do the build!

That 64gr bullet looks pretty good. I would think if you were hunting deer with a 22, that would be as good as any. Especially at 22-250 speeds.

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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Very impressive indeed !

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SJB358 wrote:
6mm Remington wrote:
Man you guys like em big and heavy. Maybe one of these days that 338-06 will come to fruition! I'm thinking about leaning towards that on that 03-A3 action I had talked about previously. 8) I guess I just need to save up now!


That would be a cool build David. I would even sponsor you with your first bag of bullets if you do the build!

That 64gr bullet looks pretty good. I would think if you were hunting deer with a 22, that would be as good as any. Especially at 22-250 speeds.


Nice work David!! I'll sponsor you a bag of brass! Might as well AI it while your at it!


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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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You folks are so helpful! :roll: :grin:
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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:53 pm 

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Where can I get a thousand of these?

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CMBTshooter wrote:
Where can I get a thousand of these?

Just the bullets or the HSM ammunition?

http://thehuntingshack.com/catalog/retail/index.html

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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6mm Remington wrote:
CMBTshooter wrote:
Where can I get a thousand of these?

Just the bullets or the HSM ammunition?

http://thehuntingshack.com/catalog/retail/index.html


Thanks! I'm going to have to order some.

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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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How sure are you that you are getting 3100 fps out of the test ammo? Those bullets don't really look like they expanded much less than the 22 250 test! Can't wait to get my grimmy hands on some of these for the .222. Are they going to be available in packs of 50 or 100?


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"How sure are you that you are getting 3100 fps out of the test ammo?"

Many of us here have Chronographs and check the velocity of the loads & ammo we're testing. Hope that helps!

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Very cool..what barrel length are you using? Any chance that you could back off 150 yards and shoot a bunch of jugs so that I could see what my .222 would do with that bullet? :grin:


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i'm wondering whats going to be a better deer bullet this 64 grainer or the barnes tsx in 45 -53 grains.


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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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mrandrew wrote:
i'm wondering whats going to be a better deer bullet this 64 grainer or the barnes tsx in 45 -53 grains.


That 64 grain looks pretty tough, if I were going to try blasting deer with any bullet, that would be on my list.. But then again, that 60 PT is TOUGH too...

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Yeah I already tried the partition but my 1-14 twist didn't like it. The weird thing is that my dads 788 222 1/14 twist did shoot that bullet to just over an inch.


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 Post subject: Re: .224 64gr. HSM ammo
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mrandrew wrote:
How sure are you that you are getting 3100 fps out of the test ammo? Those bullets don't really look like they expanded much less than the 22 250 test! Can't wait to get my grimmy hands on some of these for the .222. Are they going to be available in packs of 50 or 100?


Guy Miner wrote:
"How sure are you that you are getting 3100 fps out of the test ammo?"

Many of us here have Chronographs and check the velocity of the loads & ammo we're testing. Hope that helps!

Guy


My BAD on the SWAG guys. The little Ruger has an 18.5" barrel and it was 33 degrees F today when I went out to test the fps. I was WAY OFF. :oops: :oops:

So here are the results at least of the fps info and a quick 5 shot group.

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Just used the shooting bag on the front and held it with my left hand underneath the rear for support.

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Average was taken from 13 shots. 2673 fps - sounds a bit more reasonable- sorry.

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I shot the steel at 300 yards with the open sights on this rifle. Was ringing steel pretty consistently. I shot oxy/gas tubes they have hanging which I guess are about 6-8" in diameter and a couple hanging circle plates of steel roughly 10-12" in diameter.

I did shoot a 5 shot group at a small black target at 100 yards. I just plunked them down range one after the other. Not taking any special amount of time or anything just pop, pop, pop. It always amazes me how well this particular Mini-14 shoots. Bangs around in a gun rack 24-7 in a vehicle and even with the pretty thick front site it doesn't do too badly. :)

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