Pretty much. I refuse to buy a new Leupold. I have not see one track or return to zero yet.....and I work up loads for many, many rifles. My leupolds are 2x7 or 3x9 of the vari-x variety usually on lever guns..
Now I do SWFA, NF, Trijicon, Maven, vortex razor, some Arken and Athlons.
I just shot some factory ammo 125 and 158 out of the 5-in 327 and 6" 686 Plus the 686 Plus with one more inch of barrel is yielding a little over 200 ft per second more than the 327
18 grains of ironmar 4227 and 125 grain XTP yielded 960 ft per second I'm telling you there's something seriously wrong with this revolver and I've never seen anything like it in my life