280 Ack N-165

hunter24605

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A while back a requested. QL for the 280AI and N165 for the 143 hammer hunter. Dr Mike and RL338 provided the projections. I did run into pressure well before what QL and GRT projected, but the velocity was on par. I got to work on it the last couple of days, and I’m glad I have a good supply of N165! 63.0 did excellent for me. I also shot 62.5 and the group opened up a smidge, but that was probably me. This Savage 110 has a 22” tube, so the speed is very good. It’s been bedded and a round of Tubbs bullets put through it is all that’s been done to it.
 

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I'd say you have a fine load there. That will stand you in good stead on about any game you would ever hunt in NA. Excellent work.
Yep. I could tinker with OAL to try to shrink the group, but I don’t know that I’m capable of shooting any tighter, and in the real world out hunting , any further improvement wouldn’t make a real difference .
 
Nice work with your load development. That rifle and load is ready to hunt.
What is your first impression of the Bulls Bag?

JD338
I owe you a big thanks for recommending the bulls bag! I do have to set it on top of a thick, firm cushion to get the height right for me, but it’s rock solid, and allows the rifle to recoil naturally all while soaking up some recoil energy. Best I’ve used.
 

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A while back a requested. QL for the 280AI and N165 for the 143 hammer hunter. Dr Mike and RL338 provided the projections. I did run into pressure well before what QL and GRT projected, but the velocity was on par. I got to work on it the last couple of days, and I’m glad I have a good supply of N165! 63.0 did excellent for me. I also shot 62.5 and the group opened up a smidge, but that was probably me. This Savage 110 has a 22” tube, so the speed is very good. It’s been bedded and a round of Tubbs bullets put through it is all that’s been done to it.
That will work.
 
I owe you a big thanks for recommending the bulls bag! I do have to set it on top of a thick, firm cushion to get the height right for me, but it’s rock solid, and allows the rifle to recoil naturally all while soaking up some recoil energy. Best I’ve used.
Glad you like it. It's solid as you found out.
A wooden base would be more stable than a cushion resulting in even better accuracy.
Happy to help a brother out.

JD338
 
So is it the Hammers or the Bag😁 That load should do the job.
On a side note does varying the COAL on Hammers result in any difference. It’s going to be awhile before I get to try mine on paper.
 
So is it the Hammers or the Bag😁 That load should do the job.
On a side note does varying the COAL on Hammers result in any difference. It’s going to be awhile before I get to try mine on paper.
Haha! As much as I like the hammers, the bag sure helped this old cuss shoot better. They say they’re insensitive to seating depth, but I don’t have any experience yet. I load them to where the first band is just inside the case neck by about .030” so the LFCD crimps in the “shank” and not the band. Purely arbitrary measurements on my part. But that puts them Jumping .060”
 
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So is it the Hammers or the Bag😁 That load should do the job.
On a side note does varying the COAL on Hammers result in any difference. It’s going to be awhile before I get to try mine on paper.
I haven't found them to be picky at all on seating depth. I think mine changes ever so slightly every time I load them and it's all the same POI as the last batch. Just my small sample size though
 
Did you post your load development on the Hammer forum? I’m sure all involved over there will appreciate it.
 
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