7mm Rem Mag 180 ELD Match RL26 recipes?

[bbearhntr]

Do any of the fine members here have any quickload data for the 180 ELD Match bullets on top of RL26 in a 7 Rem Mag case? Is there a better choice for powder that I should be aware of? How far off the lands have you experienced the best results?

Thank you all,

 

[jimbires]

my quickload does not have the 180ELDm's listed . RL26 should be a good first pick powder with this bullet . I only played a little with ELDx's in a 260 rem . if I remember right I set them with about a .020 jump , and they shot well . I didn't try any other seating depths . I'll see if I can find my info , it's on here I think .




EDIT .
I used a .018 jump . this is the only seating depth I tried . the targets are in this thread towards the end .
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32610

 

[Dwh7271]

Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 180, Hornady ELD-M 28503
Useable Case Capaci: 70.718 grain H2O = 4.592 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

34 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        108.9     75.6     4.90    2962    97.7    60000   15414   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C                 105.1     72.2     4.68    2949    97.5    60000   15066   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 *C              106.9     75.6     4.90    2939    97.8    60000   14913   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C               104.2     73.7     4.77    2926    99.3    60000   14426   1.264  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        108.7     71.3     4.62    2918   100.0    60000   13230   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    108.7     71.3     4.62    2918   100.0    60000   13230   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 99.0     68.9     4.46    2884    99.9    60000   13271   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        104.0     67.8     4.39    2883    99.9    60000   13481   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C                     104.0     67.8     4.39    2883    99.9    60000   13481   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   98.9     68.8     4.46    2883    99.9    60000   13240   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217 *C                       110.0     70.6     4.58    2883   100.0    57111   13583   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     74.0     4.80    2883    98.4    56794   14431   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C               93.0     65.2     4.22    2881   100.0    60000   12781   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                  95.9     63.9     4.14    2877    99.5    60000   13475   1.261  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 *C              110.0     77.6     5.03    2874    96.5    55880   15024   1.320  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     96.3     66.7     4.32    2873    98.7    60000   13656   1.268  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              101.7     66.0     4.27    2872   100.0    60000   12475   1.259  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                        94.1     64.0     4.15    2871   100.0    60000   12947   1.269  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           100.3     63.5     4.12    2869    99.7    60000   13046   1.250  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        94.9     63.5     4.12    2869    99.7    60000   13046   1.250  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                91.5     63.5     4.12    2866   100.0    60000   12559   1.252  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        100.0     67.7     4.39    2863    99.8    60000   12825   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T                   105.2     67.8     4.40    2860    99.8    60000   12790   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        105.2     67.8     4.40    2860    99.8    60000   12790   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 100.5     67.3     4.36    2859    99.6    60000   13347   1.282  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         96.0     63.3     4.10    2858    99.7    60000   12952   1.247  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                     96.2     63.4     4.11    2850   100.0    60000   12854   1.267  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C               96.2     63.4     4.11    2850   100.0    60000   12854   1.267  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        96.2     63.4     4.11    2850   100.0    60000   12854   1.267  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      98.8     63.7     4.13    2850   100.0    60000   12880   1.268  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         98.8     63.7     4.13    2850   100.0    60000   12880   1.268  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C                107.5     74.7     4.84    2842    92.1    60000   13671   1.247  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      96.3     68.4     4.43    2836   100.0    60000   12309   1.264  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation     99.7     66.2     4.29    2834    98.6    60000   12921   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       97.5     63.1     4.09    2826    99.4    60000   12672   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         92.9     60.2     3.90    2814    99.9    60000   12210   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C               93.4     60.9     3.94    2812    99.9    60000   12265   1.262  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          94.1     61.3     3.97    2806    99.9    60000   12187   1.262  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T            98.3     62.7     4.06    2802   100.0    60000   11518   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     75.8     4.91    2799    89.0    56687   14212   1.332  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                 94.8     62.5     4.05    2798    99.3    60000   12260   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                    98.6     62.5     4.05    2798    99.3    60000   12260   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 *C                 108.0     69.6     4.51    2794    96.1    60000   12835   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         91.6     59.7     3.87    2792    99.9    60000   11980   1.261  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           91.6     59.7     3.87    2792    99.9    60000   11980   1.261  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        93.5     61.6     3.99    2775   100.0    60000   11665   1.283  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         105.0     73.7     4.77    2773    92.8    60000   12626   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              92.4     63.5     4.12    2772    99.9    60000   11719   1.269  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       92.5     59.5     3.85    2770    99.6    60000   11764   1.261  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T               96.1     60.9     3.95    2766    99.4    60000   11869   1.259  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                  98.6     63.6     4.12    2764   100.0    60000   11452   1.274  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        90.0     58.4     3.78    2764   100.0    60000   10882   1.288  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       96.4     62.8     4.07    2757   100.0    60000   11288   1.301  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         101.9     62.8     4.07    2757   100.0    60000   11288   1.301  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                  98.8     61.8     4.00    2756    99.6    60000   11574   1.265  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            92.9     58.0     3.76    2752   100.0    60000   10983   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        91.7     63.7     4.13    2745    99.2    60000   11611   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     76.4     4.95    2740    90.3    53667   13302   1.324  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     72.8     4.72    2736    86.2    53572   13380   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 90.9     57.3     3.71    2725   100.0    60000   10373   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T              100.7     65.0     4.21    2724    94.1    60000   11727   1.260  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem 12.7-0                     110.0     74.0     4.80    2681    85.8    53703   12405   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     73.3     4.75    2681    94.1    49519   12911   1.383
Accurate 8700                      110.0     74.8     4.85    2673    93.9    48339   12963   1.381
Vihtavuori 20N29 *C                110.0     77.2     5.00    2659    91.0    47412   13186   1.406
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     73.3     4.75    2621    91.7    46278   12699   1.424
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     70.2     4.55    2410    68.6    40914   10699   1.494
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     70.2     4.55    2387    72.5    38728   10927   1.537
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     70.2     4.55    1704    33.9    20893    5274   2.032

Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 180, Hornady ELD-M 28503
Useable Case Capaci: 70.718 grain H2O = 4.592 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C ?

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.155% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-01.6   90    62.79   2821    3181   56737  12391    100.0    1.315  ! Near Maximum !
-01.4   90    62.89   2825    3190   57030  12401    100.0    1.311  ! Near Maximum !
-01.2   90    62.99   2829    3199   57324  12411    100.0    1.308  ! Near Maximum !
-01.1   90    63.09   2833    3209   57619  12420    100.0    1.305  ! Near Maximum !
-00.9   90    63.19   2837    3218   57916  12430    100.0    1.302  ! Near Maximum !
-00.8   90    63.29   2841    3227   58215  12440    100.0    1.299  ! Near Maximum !
-00.6   90    63.38   2845    3236   58515  12449    100.0    1.296  ! Near Maximum !
-00.5   91    63.48   2850    3245   58816  12459    100.0    1.293  ! Near Maximum !
-00.3   91    63.58   2854    3255   59119  12468    100.0    1.290  ! Near Maximum !
-00.2   91    63.68   2858    3264   59423  12478    100.0    1.287  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   91    63.78   2862    3273   59729  12488    100.0    1.284  ! Near Maximum !
+00.2   91    63.88   2866    3282   60037  12497    100.0    1.281  ! Near Maximum !
+00.3   91    63.98   2870    3291   60346  12507    100.0    1.278  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.5   91    64.08   2874    3301   60657  12516    100.0    1.275  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.6   92    64.18   2878    3310   60969  12525    100.0    1.272  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.8   92    64.27   2882    3319   61283  12535    100.0    1.269  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     91    63.78   2897    3353   63836  12341    100.0    1.250  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     91    63.78   2822    3183   55640  12652    100.0    1.322  ! Near Maximum !

 

[desertcj]

I just loaded up some 180 Eld-Ms for my 7mm mag but I'm using H1000.

 

[SJB358]

I would look at Retumbo or RL33 as well if you are wanting top speeds with the 180's in the big 7.

I have done real well putting the ELD's about .005" off the rifling in the few guns I have loaded them in. Been pretty good like that.

Good luck, that is a wicked combo.

 

[thatguySHM]

I just loaded up some 180 Eld-Ms for my 7mm mag but I'm using H1000.

+1

I used RL23 with some 180 ELD-M's when they first came out, very accurate bullets. I use Berger 180 HVLD now with H1000 and I don't see any way I can improve on accuracy. Turned my 7mm RM into a bench rest rifle.

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