I would bet they kill stuff quite well. They are expensive but how many bullets do most people shoot a year in a hunting rifle? I would bet most are 100 or less. Midway has the prices at 80-90/100. So they cost that hunter about 40-50.00 more per year for bullets. Even if a person shot 400/year for ELR or target shooting it would be 40.00/100 more then say 215 or 230 Berger's. That is 160.00/year more expensive for almost .200 more G1 BC. Still way cheaper then solid copper Cutting Edge or Hammer bullets and they have higher BC's. Look at the cross section of the 225 ELD-M versus the A-tip. They are almost identical. That is why I know they will work on game despite what they say they are good for. They don't rate ELD-M's or A-Max's for hunting and I've watched them crush animals.