I was a junior member of a rifle and pistol club that was affiliated with the Department of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM). Through the DCM we would get surplus military and .22 Rimfire ammunition. We would take military ammunition and pull the bullets, neck size, and seat soft point bullets of the same weight for hunting. I have to say that we really didn't know what we were doing at the time. But it was this start that drove me to want to create my own ammunition that was as good or better than factory and of course, save money.