I can testify that Howie's copper top call works. This morning is WV youth season and I took my grandson Landon hunting. We knew where some gobblers were hanging out so we set 1 Jake and I hen decoy in the edge of the field plus 1 jake in the woods. At daylight there were turkeys on both sides of us. A few soft clucks and yelps got their attention. 30 minutes or so 2 gobblers came out about 75-80 yds away. They spied the decoys and the show started. Gobbling, strutting and getting closer. At 17 yds Landon squeezed the trigger. Bang, no flop. Straight down. He was using a Winchester 1200 20ga 1oz #6 . It is his first with a shotgun and my first using a copper top friction call. Thank you Howie for the sweet sounding call. Dan.