QL 6.5-06 AI

frankm

Handloader
May 10, 2009
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Would someone mind running a QL for a 150 grain MK in a 6.5-06 AI with a 30" 8 twist barrel?

Thinking R26, H1000 and Retumbo might all be good performers. Would like to see a listing of all powders if possible.

Thx much!
 
I don't think there is a 6.5-06AI in Quickloads. There is the A-Square and Gibbs that I saw. You didn't specify OAL so I left it at the standard.

Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 150, Sierra HPBT MatchK 1755
Useable Case Capaci: 60.171 grain H2O = 3.907 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 30.0 inch = 762.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64900 psi, or 447 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 106 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

21 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570 *C 106.0 62.0 4.02 3142 98.5 59137 11604 1.403 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 99.5 56.4 3.65 3140 100.0 64900 10448 1.358 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 102.3 60.5 3.92 3139 100.0 64900 10156 1.352 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 99.8 58.8 3.81 3138 99.8 64900 10632 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 102.1 60.4 3.92 3138 100.0 64900 10130 1.352 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 96.4 57.5 3.73 3133 100.0 64900 9843 1.373 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 97.6 56.5 3.66 3126 100.0 64900 9989 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 98.3 56.0 3.63 3125 100.0 64900 10043 1.349 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 103.9 56.0 3.63 3125 100.0 64900 10043 1.349 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N565 *C 104.1 59.3 3.84 3120 100.0 64900 10304 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 105.4 58.2 3.77 3119 100.0 64900 9607 1.357 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 94.8 56.0 3.63 3117 100.0 64900 9688 1.351 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 99.5 55.8 3.61 3114 100.0 64900 10017 1.347 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 103.3 59.5 3.86 3112 100.0 64900 9813 1.343 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 *C 99.8 55.9 3.62 3105 100.0 64900 9919 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 99.8 55.9 3.62 3105 100.0 64900 9919 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 99.8 55.9 3.62 3105 100.0 64900 9919 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 102.5 56.2 3.64 3105 100.0 64900 9942 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 102.5 56.2 3.64 3105 100.0 64900 9942 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 2 *C 106.0 58.8 3.81 3098 100.0 61471 10306 1.400 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 106.0 58.8 3.81 3098 100.0 61471 10306 1.400 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 103.2 58.4 3.78 3090 99.7 64900 10108 1.349 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 101.1 55.7 3.61 3080 100.0 64900 9813 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 99.5 60.1 3.90 3080 100.0 64900 9406 1.364 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 106.0 63.8 4.13 3067 98.2 55199 11354 1.448
ADI AR 2209 96.4 53.2 3.45 3063 100.0 64900 9440 1.357 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 96.9 53.8 3.48 3061 100.0 64900 9494 1.364 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 97.7 54.2 3.51 3055 100.0 64900 9429 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 *T 102.2 55.1 3.57 3046 99.9 64900 9535 1.361 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 98.2 55.1 3.57 3046 99.9 64900 9535 1.361 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518 93.3 53.4 3.46 3045 100.0 64900 9173 1.372 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 92.4 49.9 3.24 3042 100.0 64900 8814 1.363 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 102.0 55.3 3.58 3040 100.0 64900 8906 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 92.5 53.0 3.43 3039 100.0 64900 9093 1.373 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 95.1 52.7 3.42 3038 100.0 64900 9272 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 *C 92.1 52.7 3.42 3038 100.0 64900 9272 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 95.1 52.7 3.42 3038 100.0 64900 9272 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H1000 *T 106.0 58.2 3.77 3033 100.0 59244 9723 1.398 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 106.0 58.2 3.77 3033 100.0 59244 9723 1.398 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 90.9 52.8 3.42 3029 100.0 64900 8877 1.388 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 106.0 63.8 4.13 3025 98.3 52432 11225 1.478
ADI AR 2218 106.0 62.6 4.06 3017 97.3 51718 11562 1.472
Somchem S385 97.1 54.4 3.53 3016 100.0 64900 8991 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 96.1 52.5 3.40 3014 100.0 64900 9130 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 95.7 56.0 3.63 3013 100.0 64900 9038 1.373 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 99.7 53.8 3.49 3012 100.0 64900 9272 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP *C 92.1 50.5 3.27 3007 100.0 64900 8706 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 92.1 50.5 3.28 3007 100.0 64900 8704 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 92.8 52.3 3.39 3004 100.0 64900 8847 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 *C 102.2 56.1 3.63 3002 100.0 64900 8797 1.378 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 91.1 50.5 3.27 3000 100.0 64900 8630 1.400 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 *C 102.5 54.5 3.53 2997 100.0 64900 8966 1.371 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2225 106.0 59.1 3.83 2996 100.0 52396 9941 1.476
Hodgdon Retumbo 106.0 59.1 3.83 2996 100.0 52396 9941 1.476
Somchem S365 93.6 51.6 3.35 2996 100.0 64900 8421 1.392 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 99.9 55.4 3.59 2992 100.0 64900 8679 1.404 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S071 105.6 55.4 3.59 2992 100.0 64900 8679 1.404 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361 95.1 56.2 3.64 2987 99.9 64900 9030 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 92.2 50.6 3.28 2987 100.0 64900 8689 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 96.6 51.3 3.32 2987 100.0 64900 8501 1.391 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 90.3 49.2 3.19 2973 100.0 64900 8610 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 90.3 49.2 3.19 2973 100.0 64900 8610 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 104.2 57.2 3.70 2966 96.3 64900 9288 1.369 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 91.2 49.5 3.21 2957 100.0 64900 8370 1.388 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D100 106.0 63.3 4.10 2951 94.2 59763 9798 1.421 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 94.5 50.7 3.28 2951 100.0 64900 8015 1.387 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C 106.0 62.6 4.06 2943 92.3 54518 10368 1.457
Norma 217 *C 106.0 57.9 3.75 2925 100.0 47242 10173 1.564
Hodgdon H870 106.0 60.7 3.93 2914 97.8 47033 10751 1.559
Vihtavuori N170 *C 106.0 58.2 3.77 2888 96.1 54171 9695 1.497
Hodgdon US 869 106.0 62.6 4.06 2761 89.1 44624 9826 1.606
Hodgdon 50BMG 106.0 59.7 3.87 2758 84.9 44778 9865 1.603
SNPE Vectan SP 13 106.0 60.1 3.89 2709 93.1 41184 9576 1.672
Somchem 12.7-0 106.0 60.7 3.93 2703 84.5 45213 9129 1.598
Accurate 8700 106.0 61.4 3.98 2691 92.6 40155 9594 1.676
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 106.0 60.1 3.89 2647 90.6 38608 9404 1.721
NC A3502 ,test only 106.0 57.5 3.73 2435 67.1 35098 7759 1.793
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 106.0 57.5 3.73 2413 71.2 33123 8002 1.840
 
Cartridge : 6.5 mm Gibbs
Bullet : .264, 150, Sierra HPBT MatchK 1755
Useable Case Capaci: 65.531 grain H2O = 4.255 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 30.0 inch = 762.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64900 psi, or 447 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 106 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

33 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570 *C 104.5 66.6 4.31 3235 99.7 64900 12112 1.374 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 106.0 69.5 4.50 3211 99.8 64243 11937 1.383 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2218 106.0 68.2 4.42 3175 99.5 58895 12234 1.406 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 106.0 69.5 4.50 3172 99.8 60995 11787 1.409 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C 96.0 59.3 3.84 3151 100.0 64900 10734 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 96.3 61.8 4.01 3150 100.0 64900 10939 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP30 103.7 62.7 4.06 3149 100.0 64900 10624 1.391 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 2 *C 103.7 62.7 4.06 3149 100.0 64900 10624 1.391 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 98.6 63.6 4.12 3144 100.0 64900 10429 1.377 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 98.5 63.5 4.11 3143 100.0 64900 10404 1.378 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 100.3 58.9 3.82 3136 100.0 64900 10331 1.370 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 94.9 58.9 3.82 3136 100.0 64900 10331 1.370 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 92.8 60.2 3.90 3131 100.0 64900 10112 1.399 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 94.1 59.3 3.84 3131 100.0 64900 10269 1.389 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N565 *C 100.4 62.3 4.04 3128 100.0 64900 10572 1.401 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 100.0 62.7 4.06 3125 100.0 64900 10095 1.364 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 96.1 58.7 3.80 3125 100.0 64900 10308 1.367 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H1000 *T 105.1 62.8 4.07 3123 100.0 64900 10066 1.364 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2217 105.1 62.8 4.07 3123 100.0 64900 10066 1.364 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 91.5 58.9 3.81 3120 100.0 64900 9970 1.374 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 101.5 61.0 3.95 3118 100.0 64900 9876 1.382 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 98.9 59.1 3.83 3114 100.0 64900 10225 1.387 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 98.9 59.1 3.83 3114 100.0 64900 10225 1.387 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 96.3 58.8 3.81 3114 100.0 64900 10203 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 *C 96.3 58.8 3.81 3114 100.0 64900 10203 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 96.3 58.8 3.81 3114 100.0 64900 10203 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2225 106.0 64.4 4.17 3109 100.0 59869 10317 1.418 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Retumbo 106.0 64.4 4.17 3109 100.0 59869 10317 1.418 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 99.9 61.5 3.99 3106 99.9 64900 10429 1.368 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 97.7 58.6 3.80 3094 100.0 64900 10101 1.385 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C 106.0 68.2 4.42 3086 95.6 61777 11214 1.398 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 96.0 63.2 4.09 3084 100.0 64900 9675 1.389 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 93.3 56.1 3.63 3077 100.0 64900 9739 1.374 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 93.8 56.7 3.67 3075 100.0 64900 9788 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 94.5 57.1 3.70 3068 100.0 64900 9721 1.382 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 *T 99.0 58.1 3.76 3064 100.0 64900 9834 1.378 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 95.1 58.1 3.76 3064 100.0 64900 9834 1.378 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518 90.2 56.2 3.64 3055 100.0 64900 9462 1.389 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 92.1 55.6 3.60 3054 100.0 64900 9571 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 92.1 55.6 3.60 3054 100.0 64900 9571 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H870 106.0 66.1 4.28 3054 99.6 54491 11361 1.490 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D100 104.9 68.2 4.42 3048 96.5 64900 10438 1.390 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 217 *C 106.0 63.1 4.09 3048 100.0 55143 10523 1.494 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 98.3 58.1 3.77 3041 100.0 64900 9177 1.404 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 93.1 55.5 3.59 3033 100.0 64900 9429 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 96.7 56.8 3.68 3032 100.0 64900 9575 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 93.9 57.3 3.72 3029 100.0 64900 9276 1.403 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 92.7 59.0 3.83 3027 100.0 64900 9320 1.391 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 *C 99.4 57.6 3.73 3015 100.0 64900 9253 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 *C 98.9 59.1 3.83 3013 100.0 64900 9074 1.396 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N170 *C 106.0 63.3 4.10 3011 98.3 60773 10362 1.440 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361 92.2 59.3 3.84 3006 100.0 64900 9320 1.394 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S071 102.1 58.3 3.78 3001 100.0 64900 8952 1.423 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 96.5 58.3 3.78 3001 100.0 64900 8952 1.423 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 90.3 54.2 3.52 2999 100.0 64900 8699 1.412 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 101.2 60.5 3.92 2997 97.4 64900 9730 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 93.4 54.0 3.50 2996 100.0 64900 8789 1.408 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 91.4 53.4 3.46 2960 100.0 64900 8301 1.405 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon US 869 106.0 68.2 4.42 2904 93.0 50988 10725 1.538 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon 50BMG 106.0 65.0 4.21 2903 89.1 50913 10860 1.536 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 13 106.0 65.4 4.24 2846 96.4 47461 10345 1.599 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem 12.7-0 106.0 66.1 4.28 2840 88.7 50747 10053 1.535 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 8700 106.0 66.8 4.33 2838 96.3 45899 10389 1.601 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 106.0 65.4 4.24 2787 94.4 44337 10241 1.645 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
NC A3502 ,test only 106.0 62.6 4.06 2579 73.3 38830 9024 1.728 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 106.0 62.6 4.06 2551 76.2 36923 9038 1.774 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
 
Thanks Nathan... I blew the COL , it's 3.410 but this gives me a good idea. Might get a little more powder in the longer COL but most likely wouldn't make much of a velocity increase.

Side note; do you have an improved 338 Lapua AI? Trying to find out what velocity increases might be attained. Got a FCP HS in Savage that I ve given some thought to punching out.
Frank

Call me sometime to catch up ... I m still in SE Boise off Boise Ave.
 
I don't have a 338 LapuaAI just a standard. From what I've seen there is about 100fps of difference in the two with top velocity loads. A 338 Lapua will run 2900 or a little more with N570 or R33 and a LAI is around 3000fps. The nice thing is not having to trim brass.
 
I figured 100 -125 fps was about what could be expected. As you said trimming minimization is probably biggest deal. Putting longer barrel on, say 4" would probably get another 100 fps +\-
 
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