Quick load help please !!!

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300WSM

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Dec 24, 2011
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I need quick load help please...

I never feel comfortable with kinda and sorta close with powder and bullets.

25 wssm
Reloader 17
115 gr. Ballistic Tip
WLR or Fed 210M

Second is..
25WSSM
same powder
Reloader 17
120 gr Hornady interlock bullet..
Apparently the 120 interlock is no longer made but I have some needing used up.

Alliant lists R17 for the caliber and lists a 120 gr bullet but it's not the Hornady interlock

Again I like exact reference points with loading.

Thanks for any replies
 
300WSM said:
I need quick load help please...

I never feel comfortable with kinda and sorta close with powder and bullets.

25 wssm
Reloader 17
115 gr. Ballistic Tip
WLR or Fed 210M

Second is..
25WSSM
same powder
Reloader 17
120 gr Hornady interlock bullet..
Apparently the 120 interlock is no longer made but I have some needing used up.

Alliant lists R17 for the caliber and lists a 120 gr bullet but it's not the Hornady interlock

Again I like exact reference points with loading.

Thanks for any replies
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While I don't know how the change the primer input, I do have ql. I'll see what I can find out?
 
About the best I can do.

case 1.660"
coal 2.350"
rl17 41.7-45.4
24" barrel

Can't find any info about the 120 hornady. Using 120's from other mfgs would be useful, so totally understand.
 
TexasLife said:
About the best I can do.

case 1.660"
coal 2.350"
rl17 41.7-45.4
24" barrel

Can't find any info about the 120 hornady. Using 120's from other mfgs would be useful, so totally understand.
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Ok so that's on the 115 bst...

Thank you so very much!!!
 
300WSM said:
Ok so that's on the 115 bst...

Thank you so very much!!!
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I didn't see any rl17 listed on their load data site. Of course, pressure will go up or down depending on case length. Not sure what length you trim your cases. If I knew what the 120interloc bullet length was I could change specs to meet possible data. I would use hornady bullet reference for 117 and change input to 120 and make length as you spec.
 
TexasLife said:
I didn't see any rl17 listed on their load data site. Of course, pressure will go up or down depending on case length. Not sure what length you trim your cases. If I knew what the 120interloc bullet length was I could change specs to meet possible data. I would use hornady bullet reference for 117 and change input to 120 and make length as you spec.
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Thanks...
just to clarify the specs you gave me are for the 115 ballistic tip and Reloader 17

Secondly...
I will measure the 120gr interlock bullet in about 30 mins
 
300WSM said:
Thanks...
just to clarify the specs you gave me are for the 115 ballistic tip and Reloader 17

Secondly...
I will measure the 120gr interlock bullet in about 30 mins
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Yes, data was inputted for 115gr nosler b-tips and rl17 as earlier post info gives. Sorry for not adding the 115b-tip in the data. Those were the only 2 you stated. Always double check, so no worries!
 
TexasLife said:
Yes, data was inputted for 115gr nosler b-tips and rl17 as earlier post info gives. Sorry for not adding the 115b-tip in the data. Those were the only 2 you stated. Always double check, so no worries!
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Ok...sorry it took me this long to reply but
The length of the 25 cal 120 grain interlock bullets is around 1.185-1.190
Screenshot_20221127_140558.jpg


  • Sectional Density: 0.260
  • Ballistic Coefficient:0.358

I just bought more ballistic silvertip 25 cal 115gr off the Nosler site...

We covered that bullet and reloader 17


So i need R17 with the 120 interlock and also if you kindly can...
Screenshot_20221127_141105.jpg


The 117 sst ...
If you need the length on that let me know. I got some of those to try
 
117sst is in the database, but the 120interloc has the same length as the 120hp (#2560). I'll compare both.
 
Here's what I found.
Using 120hp, 117sst @ 1.1850 and 1.190 with 120gr weight change all charges were the same, 41.2-45.0.
Although I don't trust QL 100% it does/have given me good starting points.
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .25 WSSM
Bullet             : .257, 115, Nosler BalTip 25115
Useable Case Capaci: 47.816 grain H2O = 3.105 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.360 inch = 59.94 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   88    40.68   2849    2072   44471   9832     99.7    1.291
-09.0   89    41.13   2879    2116   45974   9897     99.8    1.272
-08.0   90    41.58   2908    2160   47531   9957     99.9    1.253
-07.0   91    42.04   2938    2205   49142  10012    100.0    1.234
-06.0   92    42.49   2968    2249   50811  10060    100.0    1.216
-05.0   93    42.94   2997    2294   52540  10105    100.0    1.197
-04.0   94    43.39   3027    2339   54331  10150    100.0    1.180  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   95    43.84   3056    2384   56188  10193    100.0    1.162  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    44.30   3085    2430   58113  10236    100.0    1.145  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   97    44.75   3113    2475   60109  10278    100.0    1.128  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    45.20   3142    2521   62158  10320    100.0    1.112  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   99    45.65   3170    2567   64327  10360    100.0    1.096  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  100    46.10   3199    2613   66557  10400    100.0    1.080  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  101    46.56   3227    2659   68871  10438    100.0    1.064  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    47.01   3255    2706   71275  10476    100.0    1.049  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  103    47.46   3283    2753   73771  10513    100.0    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    45.20   3202    2618   68955  10105    100.0    1.069  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    45.20   3067    2402   55908  10580    100.0    1.161  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .25 WSSM
Bullet             : .257, 120, Hornady HP 2560
Useable Case Capaci: 47.938 grain H2O = 3.113 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.360 inch = 59.94 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    40.32   2798    2086   44706   9803     99.9    1.313
-09.0   88    40.77   2827    2130   46205   9863    100.0    1.293
-08.0   89    41.22   2856    2173   47755   9918    100.0    1.274
-07.0   90    41.66   2885    2217   49359   9967    100.0    1.255
-06.0   91    42.11   2913    2261   51020  10015    100.0    1.236
-05.0   92    42.56   2941    2305   52740  10063    100.0    1.218
-04.0   93    43.01   2970    2350   54520  10109    100.0    1.200  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    43.46   2998    2394   56364  10155    100.0    1.183  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    43.90   3025    2439   58275  10201    100.0    1.166  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    44.35   3053    2484   60255  10245    100.0    1.149  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    44.80   3081    2529   62302  10289    100.0    1.132  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    45.25   3108    2574   64435  10331    100.0    1.116  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    45.70   3135    2620   66643  10373    100.0    1.100  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    46.14   3163    2665   68932  10415    100.0    1.084  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    46.59   3190    2711   71306  10455    100.0    1.069  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  101    47.04   3217    2757   73768  10494    100.0    1.054  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    44.80   3137    2623   69075  10082    100.0    1.089  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    44.80   3010    2414   56001  10541    100.0    1.182  ! Near Maximum !

Code: 
Cartridge          : .25 WSSM
Bullet             : .257, 117, Hornady SST InterLock 25522
Useable Case Capaci: 47.819 grain H2O = 3.105 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.360 inch = 59.94 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   88    40.50   2827    2076   44525   9816     99.8    1.300
-09.0   89    40.95   2857    2120   46028   9880     99.9    1.281
-08.0   90    41.40   2886    2164   47578   9938    100.0    1.262
-07.0   91    41.85   2915    2208   49187   9990    100.0    1.243
-06.0   91    42.30   2945    2252   50850  10038    100.0    1.224
-05.0   92    42.75   2974    2297   52574  10084    100.0    1.206
-04.0   93    43.20   3002    2342   54358  10129    100.0    1.188  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    43.65   3031    2387   56209  10173    100.0    1.171  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    44.10   3059    2432   58122  10217    100.0    1.154  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    44.55   3088    2477   60114  10260    100.0    1.137  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    45.00   3116    2522   62174  10302    100.0    1.120  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    45.45   3144    2568   64314  10344    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    45.90   3172    2614   66529  10384    100.0    1.088  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    46.35   3200    2660   68833  10424    100.0    1.073  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    46.80   3228    2706   71222  10463    100.0    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  102    47.25   3255    2753   73703  10501    100.0    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    45.00   3175    2618   68949  10090    100.0    1.077  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    45.00   3043    2405   55896  10560    100.0    1.170  ! Near Maximum !

Code: 
Cartridge          : .25 WSSM
Bullet             : .257, 117, Hornady BTSP 2552
Useable Case Capaci: 48.682 grain H2O = 3.161 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.360 inch = 59.94 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    40.95   2834    2086   44542   9934     99.8    1.301
-09.0   88    41.41   2863    2130   46037   9997     99.9    1.282
-08.0   89    41.86   2892    2173   47583  10055    100.0    1.262
-07.0   90    42.32   2922    2218   49183  10107    100.0    1.244
-06.0   91    42.77   2951    2262   50841  10155    100.0    1.225
-05.0   92    43.23   2980    2306   52556  10203    100.0    1.207
-04.0   93    43.68   3008    2351   54334  10249    100.0    1.189  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    44.14   3037    2396   56171  10295    100.0    1.172  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    44.59   3065    2441   58079  10340    100.0    1.155  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    45.05   3093    2486   60056  10385    100.0    1.138  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    45.50   3121    2531   62105  10428    100.0    1.122  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    45.96   3149    2577   64229  10471    100.0    1.106  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    46.41   3177    2623   66427  10513    100.0    1.090  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    46.87   3205    2669   68718  10554    100.0    1.074  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    47.32   3233    2715   71089  10595    100.0    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  101    47.78   3260    2761   73552  10634    100.0    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    45.50   3180    2627   68855  10218    100.0    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    45.50   3049    2415   55823  10685    100.0    1.171  ! Near Maximum !
 
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