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Civil War is Coming



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban Al l Firearms in the United States .

The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. It will never happen! The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.

Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will

be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress.

We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed

a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling

to the public.

We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight into socialism if Obama has his way... We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).DON'T KEEP THIS - SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST
 
Obama is (on his own) negotiating a treaty with an outlaw state that is embargoed by his administration to force a nuclear treaty with Iran, in force only if he is reelected! There must be some law to stop him from unilaterally negotiating with an enemy state for his benefit only to get reelected?
 
Oldtrader3":1654j36p said:
Obama is (on his own) negotiating a treaty with an outlaw state that is embargoed by his administration to force a nuclear treaty with Iran, in force only if he is reelected! There must be some law to stop him from unilaterally negotiating with an enemy state for his benefit only to get reelected?

Only if the Congress gets a good dose of courage. :evil:
 
I know that there is one Bill of Impeachment moving through the House and a Grand Jury being formed to investigate the Bengnazi fiasco but negotiating with an enemy state against the interests of your country is Treason and should be prosecuted with all vigor! Benedict Arnold comes to mind as being the last person who threatened this country to the extent that this guy does. Somebody needs to grow a pair in Washington!
 
Not all emails are created equal.......

obama or billary can sign any treaty they desire....but said treaty still requires consent and approval by the US Senate by no less then 2/3rds majority.

According to rumors, it was to be signed back in Aug this year. Didn't happen.

And according to what I have seen from more reliable sources, the head count against approval in the Senate was 58 members...... republicans and democrats.

More against the treaty then for it for sure.

OK.... question now arises....actually more like statements...... obama will just enact it through Executive Order.

At this point, obama has violated the Constitution in such a manner which will all but demand his removal via impeachment.

In the history of this country, only 1 president has bypassed the Senate and enacted a treaty with a foreign country. That president was Andrew Jackson. He also refused to appear before the Supreme Court to explain his actions concerning said treaty. The Chief Justice ordered hsi arrest and he was so arrested by US Marshalls and taken before the Chief Justice.

Jackson told the Chief Justice..... I have the army behind me...you only have a few marshalls.... you really think you can prevent me from moving forward with this treaty?

obama does not have such support..... in or out of congress....

Also...if one reads the actual wording of the above mentioned treaty.... one will see that what it says and what the email says are 12 different things.
 
As much as I love my rifles, I believe that no matter what we do, the BAN is inevitable based on US support for the United Nations. I also believe religion will also be banned.
 
I have been saying this for over 20 years. "Get the UN out of the US and the US out of the UN." I see no reason to change my mind on that subject. :x
Paul B.
 
It is all part of the left's destruction of religion and family values. Look at the TV ad with the young teen talking about having her first sexual contct. It is, to me, disgusting to put an ad on saying that in this fashion. Only a homosexual president who is wanting to enable child molesters and their creepy friends would want to say this in public and air that ad!
 
Have you wondered why gun control has not even caused a peep the last few months, even with some horrific shooting incidents that normally bring on the left wing gun control nuts?

Only in the deep blue states can a democrat be pro-gun control and have a prayer of retaining their seat. In battle ground states, or mixed states, gun control kills democrat's in their home districts. It may play well in the beltway, but those 'working' democrats in swing states are gun owners.

There are a lot of freedoms to be fearful of losing under this administration, but unless something radical changes, gun rights aren't way up my list. (Remember, Obama had both houses and the presidency for two years and they didn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.)
 
AzDak42":b4tnd1mg said:
Have you wondered why gun control has not even caused a peep the last few months, even with some horrific shooting incidents that normally bring on the left wing gun control nuts?

Only in the deep blue states can a democrat be pro-gun control and have a prayer of retaining their seat. In battle ground states, or mixed states, gun control kills democrat's in their home districts. It may play well in the beltway, but those 'working' democrats in swing states are gun owners.

There are a lot of freedoms to be fearful of losing under this administration, but unless something radical changes, gun rights aren't way up my list. (Remember, Obama had both houses and the presidency for two years and they didn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.)

I simply don't trust politicians. If they have a D after their name, I not only suspicious, I'm positively watchful.
 
DrMike":2vwor010 said:
AzDak42":2vwor010 said:
Have you wondered why gun control has not even caused a peep the last few months, even with some horrific shooting incidents that normally bring on the left wing gun control nuts?

Only in the deep blue states can a democrat be pro-gun control and have a prayer of retaining their seat. In battle ground states, or mixed states, gun control kills democrat's in their home districts. It may play well in the beltway, but those 'working' democrats in swing states are gun owners.

There are a lot of freedoms to be fearful of losing under this administration, but unless something radical changes, gun rights aren't way up my list. (Remember, Obama had both houses and the presidency for two years and they didn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.)

I simply don't trust politicians. If they have a D after their name, I not only suspicious, I'm positively watchful.

When obummer first took office....her majesty poleski stated that gun control was off the books and would not even be considered. This is in reaction to the results of Clinton's mid-term election where he got spanked for signing the Brady Bill......

The democrats are slowly starting to realize just how dangerous a subject it really is.

Will we one day see masive gun control??? Only if the Southern Democrats become liberal instead of the average one being Moderate or Conservative.

Hopefully I'll be long done and gone by then.....
 
Today is election day and it may not matter, but! Look at what Obama and his Attorney General hgave said in the past. Plus remember July 2012, when Hiliary tried to make it moot by making guns illegal by UN fiat! You are forgetting that!
 
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