460 Weatherby

RL338 · Dec 14, 2017

I recently purchased a 460 that will be here by Christmas :grin: , if everything goes well. I am looking for real world load data on the 500 grain Nosler Partitions (44745) if anyone has some. Reloader 17 is what I would like to use , but open to others. I know this isn't a popular cartridge and I could never get Quick Load to match my other 2 Weatherys so I'm asking for your help here. Thanks.

FOTIS · Dec 14, 2017

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Cartridge          : .460 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .458, 500, Nosler PART PP 44745
Useable Case Capaci: 115.859 grain H2O = 7.523 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.750 inch = 95.25 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62590 psi, or 431 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

106 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  100.0    112.0     7.26    2619   100.0    62590    8064   1.283  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  105.0    119.5     7.74    2601    99.8    59957    8822   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  99.0    110.9     7.19    2601   100.0    62590    8013   1.292  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            99.0    110.9     7.19    2601   100.0    62590    8013   1.292  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  102.6    114.9     7.44    2582   100.0    62590    8086   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                104.6    115.4     7.48    2581    99.9    62590    8352   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                100.5    114.3     7.41    2578   100.0    62590    8285   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     103.8    114.5     7.42    2577   100.0    62590    8273   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        98.0    110.7     7.17    2569    99.8    62590    8255   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      98.0    110.7     7.17    2569    99.8    62590    8255   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                 105.0    120.6     7.81    2565   100.0    52534    8984   1.376
Alliant Reloder-16                 105.0    109.2     7.08    2559   100.0    60779    7849   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    100.3    109.4     7.09    2555   100.0    62590    7994   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          103.3    109.1     7.07    2553   100.0    62590    7867   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         103.3    109.1     7.07    2553   100.0    62590    7865   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      102.6    109.5     7.10    2551   100.0    62590    7817   1.327  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          102.6    113.1     7.33    2549    98.8    62590    8288   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       105.0    111.5     7.23    2548   100.0    60168    7595   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                   96.4    106.3     6.89    2530   100.0    62590    7556   1.315  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       103.4    112.2     7.27    2530    99.6    62590    7980   1.316  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        105.0    112.1     7.27    2527    98.6    60739    8237   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          105.0    112.1     7.27    2527    98.6    60739    8237   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    93.3    106.2     6.88    2524   100.0    62590    7460   1.316  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          105.0    117.0     7.58    2522    98.9    52107    8939   1.388
Hodgdon CFE223                      88.1    104.8     6.79    2522   100.0    62590    7449   1.318  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   93.9    103.5     6.71    2520   100.0    62590    7336   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            92.9     99.2     6.43    2514   100.0    62590    7447   1.327  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         102.6    108.3     7.02    2513    99.8    62590    7821   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        105.0    111.5     7.23    2511    98.3    57773    8324   1.338  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           103.3    109.8     7.11    2510    99.5    62590    7784   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        93.7    100.1     6.48    2508   100.0    62590    7420   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          93.7    100.1     6.48    2508   100.0    62590    7420   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  93.7    100.1     6.48    2508   100.0    62590    7420   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        95.0    103.7     6.72    2506   100.0    62590    7560   1.330  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          94.1    100.5     6.52    2505   100.0    62590    7368   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      105.0    109.7     7.11    2504    99.4    62056    7788   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       88.6    103.2     6.69    2500   100.0    62590    7298   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516                 91.6    104.3     6.76    2499   100.0    62590    7480   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       95.5    103.2     6.68    2498   100.0    62590    7267   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          95.5    103.2     6.68    2498   100.0    62590    7267   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation        96.9    104.4     6.77    2498    99.8    62590    7550   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.0    112.1     7.27    2497    98.3    56279    8353   1.358  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                   89.0    101.5     6.58    2493   100.0    62590    7271   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   94.9    105.4     6.83    2493    99.9    62590    7561   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       97.7    103.2     6.69    2493   100.0    62590    7188   1.341  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.0    108.5     7.03    2492   100.0    60553    7172   1.332  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             105.0    118.2     7.66    2491    98.4    59176    8021   1.335  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      94.6    104.3     6.76    2490   100.0    62590    7348   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            95.7    100.5     6.51    2490   100.0    62590    7150   1.316  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         101.2    105.8     6.85    2490   100.0    62590    7506   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron                    98.6    104.0     6.74    2489    99.7    62590    7625   1.318  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        97.7    102.1     6.62    2488   100.0    62590    7213   1.336  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       99.9    104.7     6.78    2487    99.5    62590    7669   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          99.9    104.7     6.78    2487    99.5    62590    7669   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        96.7    104.8     6.79    2487    99.5    62590    7664   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                        90.7     96.9     6.28    2487   100.0    62590    7222   1.330  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       90.3     96.5     6.25    2486   100.0    62590    7177   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      86.1     98.9     6.41    2485   100.0    62590    6989   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.0    115.2     7.46    2485    96.3    53009    8656   1.379
SNPE Vectan SP 9                    91.4    100.8     6.53    2484   100.0    62590    7195   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         89.0    102.5     6.64    2482   100.0    62590    7418   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       105.0    119.5     7.74    2481    97.0    61794    7881   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      105.0    110.6     7.16    2480    97.6    59615    7951   1.338  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    89.7    102.8     6.66    2479   100.0    62590    7271   1.335  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation        98.6    104.6     6.78    2479   100.0    62590    7347   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      96.4     99.6     6.45    2475   100.0    62590    7184   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                         96.1     99.6     6.45    2475   100.0    62590    7184   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         105.0    112.1     7.27    2474    98.0    54966    8247   1.373
Somchem S341                        89.7    103.1     6.68    2470   100.0    62590    6993   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507                 88.0     98.1     6.36    2468   100.0    62590    6976   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           105.0    107.4     6.96    2466   100.0    56384    7586   1.382  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321                        86.4     99.2     6.43    2466   100.0    62590    7008   1.337  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            97.0     97.8     6.34    2464   100.0    62590    7002   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    105.0    114.6     7.42    2464    95.3    49906    8846   1.419
IMR 4166 Enduron                    97.6     99.8     6.47    2461    99.7    62590    7335   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       88.5     99.6     6.46    2461   100.0    62590    6783   1.349  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        90.5     99.6     6.46    2461   100.0    62590    6783   1.349  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                          94.7     98.4     6.37    2460   100.0    62590    6900   1.342  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       105.0    113.4     7.35    2460    98.8    55548    7979   1.388
Accurate 4064                       95.1     99.4     6.44    2456   100.0    62590    6774   1.366  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     87.2     93.7     6.07    2456   100.0    62590    6873   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            93.0     92.8     6.02    2454   100.0    62590    6608   1.340  ! Near Maximum !

1Shot · Dec 15, 2017

My hunting buddy that is an old retired Marine sighted in a 460 WM once for a fellow that was going on an
African hunt. Said that with the factory 500 gr Barnes solids even with the muzzle break it had more recoil than shooting a rifle grenade off an M1 Garand from the shoulder. LOL

FOTIS · Dec 15, 2017

Can be. If it had the pendleton type brake yes. The accubrake is not an issue

RL338 · Dec 15, 2017

Thanks guys , not to worried about recoil. Weatherby does a good job of taming recoil with the Accubrake. My 30-378 weighs in at 13lbs and it pleasent to shoot , that is the same weight I’m targeting the 460 to weigh in when i’m done with it.

thatguySHM · Dec 15, 2017

Don't get me wrong, I just bought a second 223 bolt action because I can, but what is the plan with such a beast of a rifle? All I can see is Burt from the movie Tremors. I pity the whitetail that gets in the sights of that rifle..

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elkhunternm · Dec 16, 2017

Whitetail deer HA! Try jackrabbits and cottontails.

With a 1-4x Leupold.

DrMike · Dec 16, 2017

Excellent practise. Are you practising shooting them as they run?

Guy Miner · Dec 16, 2017

I'm so fearful of the recoil, I was afraid to click on this thread! :mrgreen:

Beautiful Weatherby there Ken. Real nice.

thatguySHM · Dec 16, 2017

I feel like my shoulder needs to get redone after looking at that rifle... Damned good shooting.

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Charlie-NY · Dec 16, 2017

Weighing in at 150lbs soaking wet I bought and periodically shot a 460 WBy. I must say that its an activity that everyone should experience at least once. Most of my friends did shoot it ONCE, but then refused to even pick it up after that.
My rifle was an original German made Mark V with the Pendelton Dekicker. It was devastating on fat PA groundhogs. :>)

TackDriver284 · Dec 16, 2017

Charlie-NY":3207qmkf said:
Weighing in at 150lbs soaking wet I bought and periodically shot a 460 WBy. I must say that its an activity that everyone should experience at least once. Most of my friends did shoot it ONCE, but then refused to even pick it up after that.
My rifle was an original German made Mark V with the Pendelton Dekicker. It was devastating on fat PA groundhogs. :>)

Kinda reminds me of when I shot my 10 gauge with a 766 grain rifled slug, felt like my retinas were detached. :lol:

Guy Miner · Dec 16, 2017

Ken - is that stock walnut or ?

Ya, biggest couple of sporting rifles I've fired are a .450 Ackley, and a .458 Win mag. You'll note that I don't have any desire to own either one...

Have also shot several big boys like the .408 Chey Tac, and the .50 BMG in rifles that were reasonably man-portable (as long as somebody like Scotty is along to carry 'em) but... They don't count as "sporting rifles" to me. They're tactical monsters...

Guy

elkhunternm · Dec 17, 2017

DrMike,no I don't practice on running rabbits. I should,but most of the time I miss them and it's fun sneaking up on the bunnies.

Guy,that stock is straight from Weatherby Custom Shop. All .460's (IIRC) are made in the custom shop. By the way,it was made in 1986.

Also,that load I used on the rabbits was only going 2000 fps with a 500 gr Hornady.

I can load it down to .45/70 levels all the way up to equal factory .460 levels. Right now I'm using 95.0 grains of Var-Get,500 grain Hornady DGX,Fed 215 Mag primer. That load is getting just over 2300 fps and that is top end for a .458 Lott,but at lower pressures.

FOTIS · Dec 17, 2017

My classic mark 460

Guy Miner · Dec 17, 2017

Another beautiful rifle Fotis!

truck driver · Dec 17, 2017

Very nice looking rifle and the bunnies should be some good eating with no blood shot meat and already tenderized.

>)

That's a sharp looking rifle Fotis but then I would expect to see nothing less from your collection.

>)

diverdown · Dec 17, 2017

I just can't imagine touching the trigger on one of those Babies. I have found that off the bench, the .338RUM is enough of a bear that I don't need to dislodge my shoulder or go in for an eye checkup for something bigger.