Need load data for Hornady 212 eld-x for 30-06

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The nearby Ace hardware store has these on sale half price so I bought a couple of boxes. I can't find any specific load data and since they are longer even than the 210 Noslers, I would like recipes for the Hornady.

Powders I have in the range for heavy -06 are R17, IMR4350,

(and some H450, N205, Be kind of funny to use powders from 1960's with bullets from 2019 in a gun made in 1928)

24" barrel Springfield

The range I go to has a 700 yard steel target that I have yet to try.

Probably seat them at full out at 3.34' like the longer Noslers seem to like unless anyone has found they like more jump.
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 212, Hornady ELD-X 3077 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 54.939 grain H2O = 3.567 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : IMR 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   91    45.90   2280    2446   43198   7647     95.9    1.460
-09.0   92    46.41   2303    2498   44559   7730     96.3    1.439
-08.0   93    46.92   2327    2549   45957   7811     96.6    1.419
-07.0   94    47.43   2351    2601   47399   7889     97.0    1.399
-06.0   95    47.94   2375    2654   48887   7965     97.3    1.380
-05.0   96    48.45   2398    2707   50423   8039     97.6    1.361
-04.0   97    48.96   2422    2761   52007   8110     97.9    1.342  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   98    49.47   2445    2815   53642   8179     98.2    1.324  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   99    49.98   2469    2869   55331   8245     98.4    1.306  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  100    50.49   2492    2924   57074   8308     98.6    1.288  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    51.00   2516    2979   58875   8369     98.9    1.270  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  102    51.51   2539    3034   60734   8427     99.0    1.253  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  103    52.02   2562    3090   62656   8482     99.2    1.237  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  104    52.53   2586    3147   64642   8534     99.4    1.220  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  105    53.04   2609    3203   66694   8583     99.5    1.204  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  106    53.55   2632    3260   68817   8629     99.7    1.188  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    51.00   2615    3219   69375   8125    100.0    1.189  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    51.00   2379    2663   48589   8229     93.9    1.378
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 212, Hornady ELD-X 3077 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 54.939 grain H2O = 3.567 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    46.44   2375    2656   42526   8273     99.9    1.444
-09.0   88    46.96   2400    2711   43925   8324    100.0    1.423
-08.0   89    47.47   2424    2766   45374   8371    100.0    1.402
-07.0   90    47.99   2448    2821   46873   8414    100.0    1.381
-06.0   91    48.50   2472    2877   48425   8456    100.0    1.361
-05.0   92    49.02   2496    2933   50024   8496    100.0    1.342
-04.0   93    49.54   2520    2989   51689   8536    100.0    1.323  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    50.05   2543    3045   53411   8576    100.0    1.304  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    50.57   2567    3102   55192   8615    100.0    1.285  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    51.08   2590    3158   57039   8653    100.0    1.267  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    51.60   2614    3215   58950   8690    100.0    1.249  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    52.12   2637    3273   60932   8727    100.0    1.232  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    52.63   2660    3330   62987   8763    100.0    1.214  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    53.15   2683    3388   65119   8799    100.0    1.197  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    53.66   2706    3446   67329   8834    100.0    1.181  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  102    54.18   2729    3505   69624   8868    100.0    1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    51.60   2701    3433   72004   8344    100.0    1.163  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    51.60   2478    2891   47602   9086     99.1    1.365
 
Mine shoots well with 51.5 gr IMR 4350. I have a Serengeti chamber, which has a tighter neck that SAAMI and the leade angle is also different. Long story longer, proceed with caution, start lower, etc. Also 54.5 of Superformance is a good load, in mine. Here’s Hornady info:

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That bullet is begging for RL26. Bet you could get nearly 2700fps wth the 212 eldx.


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mjcmichigan":1g21dce0 said:
That bullet is begging for RL26. Bet you could get nearly 2700fps wth the 212 eldx.


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Man until someone spots it in the wild I refuse to admit RL26 exists
 
fightthenoise":2wsfr4pz said:
mjcmichigan":2wsfr4pz said:
That bullet is begging for RL26. Bet you could get nearly 2700fps wth the 212 eldx.


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Man until someone spots it in the wild I refuse to admit RL26 exists
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Perhaps they sent your lot to the far north! :shock:

Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 212, Hornady ELD-X 3077 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 54.950 grain H2O = 3.568 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   97    52.92   2397    2705   40123   9348     98.3    1.474
-09.0   98    53.51   2427    2773   41651   9430     98.7    1.448
-08.0   99    54.10   2457    2843   43257   9506     99.0    1.423
-07.0  100    54.68   2488    2913   44930   9575     99.3    1.398
-06.0  101    55.27   2518    2984   46679   9637     99.5    1.374
-05.0  103    55.86   2548    3055   48509   9692     99.7    1.350
-04.0  104    56.45   2578    3128   50426   9739     99.8    1.327
-03.0  105    57.04   2608    3201   52433   9779     99.9    1.304  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  106    57.62   2637    3274   54535   9812    100.0    1.281  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  107    58.21   2667    3348   56739   9837    100.0    1.258  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  108    58.80   2697    3423   59052   9858    100.0    1.236  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  109    59.39   2726    3498   61482   9878    100.0    1.215  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  110    59.98   2756    3574   64033   9897    100.0    1.194  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  111    60.56   2785    3651   66717   9915    100.0    1.173  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    61.15   2814    3728   69542   9931    100.0    1.152  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  113    61.74   2843    3805   72488   9946    100.0    1.132  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    58.80   2823    3750   75215   9329    100.0    1.131  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    58.80   2500    2942   46193  10099     96.5    1.377
 
Wow. That’s cooking! 2697 FPS 212gn pill in 3006.

Fightthenoise... where’s the wild for you.. I’ve found it in two gun shops in Mid Michigan... in both cases I asked them to order it and they got it.. took a couple weeks, but it came in.

Thanks dr Mike.

I’m going to print that recipe and put that in my 3006 binder. Don’t have 212. EldX, but if I did, I’d try to load it up.


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mjcmichigan":3n1ccmep said:
Fightthenoise... where’s the wild for you.. I’ve found it in two gun shops in Mid Michigan... in both cases I asked them to order it and they got it.. took a couple weeks, but it came in.
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I’ve just been watching the usual online outlets, but haven’t seen it locally. I have about half a keg I’ve been rationing. I’ll look into having someone order me some. I figured if the online folks didn’t have it the local shops couldn’t order any either but it won’t hurt to make my demand known
 
Thanks for the info.

Reloder 26---

At max 108% fill with this long bullet, do you think it will still fit in the magazine? I too have not seen rx26 on the shelves.

With velocity approaching 2700 fps and bc of .673 I might be able to keep up with one of those mighty creedmoor guns for a couple of hundred yards.
 
Just played with the Hornady Ballistic calculator and 2697 fps

250 yard sight in gives 300 yard point blank range (4")
1800 fps expansion to 750 yards
1000 ft pounds energy to 1075 yards

At close range, 2500 to 2700 fps should be okay for a cup and core, especially with all the mass for deer and elk.
 
I neck sized, used a drop tube and crimped. You might have to play with it.

I also used BR2 primers, considered mag primers to get better ignition.


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I still haven't found any RX 26. I do have some IMR 8133 and some Retumbo. Could I get a Quickload that compares these slower powders with the H 212 bullets in 06 ?
 
clearwater":17ks058h said:
I still haven't found any RX 26. I do have some IMR 8133 and some Retumbo. Could I get a Quickload that compares these slower powders with the H 212 bullets in 06 ?
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RL23 might be decent as well as RL17 as well.
 
I switched from RL26 to RL17 in 30-06 for 178s and 200s not because I can’t find RL26, I have 9 pounds of it. The reason was I have to shove so much of it in the case and the load is so compressed that the soft ELD-X jacket gets dented during seating. I tried everything to prevent it, but finally just switched to RL17. It’s just as accurate and a hair slower but the case fill is much kinder to the ELD-X jacket.


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