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 Post subject: Re: Bigger Bores & Bigger Bullets
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:35 pm 
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RaySendero wrote:
Got the dust off my 9.3x62 and took in hunting over Thanksgiving holidays.
That 286 NPT hammered 2 deer and a big hog - All DRT.


Well...Only got one more hog for the season - Also DRT
Am cleaning up rifles now.
My 9.3x62 only took 3 shots to sight-in, 4 more on game all DRT and was the easiest rifle to come clean.
LOL - I think I will do this again next year!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:17 pm 
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Pretty tough to beat that Ray, congrats!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:08 pm 

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Ray, I had the same experience with my 9.3x62. It took me no time to find loads for both 250 gr AB's and 286 gr NP bullets. I don't remember how may shots it took to sight it in but I know it wasn't many. It is one the easiest cartridge I now load and I load for 10 different calibers.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:25 pm 

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Guy Miner wrote:


Funny isn't it? I like hunting with my 375 & 45-70, but have never really needed that big of a bullet. I just like them. :grin:

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Guy? Is that funny ha ha or funny peculiar???? :lol:

I have a few rifles with large openings at the muzzle. I don't count the .338 Win. Mags mostly because I dislike the cartridge. That's just me. I do have .358 Win., .35 Whelen, .375 Taylor (.375x338 Win. Mag.) .375 H&H, .404 Jeffery, .416 Rigby and 45-70.

Probably the biggest one I shoot anymore is the .35 Whelen and only when getting ready fo an elk hunt. That's mostly because at my age, my eye doc fears I may have problems with a detached retina and in the immediate future nothing more potent than a .223 Rem. or maybe the .243 until my fractured sternum heals up from that vehicular accident I was involved in. Doctor's orders. :( I didd enjoy shooting the larger rifles but other than the .375 H&H on one elk hunt years ago up in the John Day region in Oregon only the .35 Whelen has seen long term use once I acquired one. I do so like that cartridge. (y)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:53 pm 

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405 grains of hard cast lead at 1824 fps will convince anything to lay down and let ya take its picture. The picture of the rifle isn’t that great but she’s purdy in real life.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:14 pm 
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50 rounds of zombie brown bear loads ready to go. Well 47 I guess due to the requisite group of 3 to verify.
375 H&H
260gr. Accubond

Can't wait to hopefully get one or two wet in the next few weeks up here. Shooting just under 1" groups with them at 100 if I do my part. Image

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:57 am 

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That 260 gr Accubond performs well! I've seen great accuracy from them, and used them to take a few black bears.

When I went for grizzly, my outfitter was carrying a battered 375 H&H, and the magazine was stuffed full of his 260 gr Accubond ammo.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:20 am 

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When the Nosler 260 Partition first came out ( mid 90s) I had a load worked up in a Mod 70 Express .375 H&h I gave to my Missionary friend in South Africa. He later told me that it worked OK up to Kudu, but on Blue wildebeest and Cape Eland they came apart. The 30-06 Fed HE 180NP ( 2970fps) I gave him with the Mod 70 rebarreled Fwt did fine, but a poorly shot Wildebeest took all day! ha. I suppose that 260 Accubond must hold together pretty good? I would think, on big bear, at least a 270gr or even 300gr would work better. I base alot of that opinion on the fact that big humped back bears give me the heeby jeebies, ha. The bigger the better for up close...but I'm sure more bears are shot/killed further out, in the open than those up close. But if a big bear isn't a good excuse for a 375 & up...what is? ha I would love to shoot a big bear with one of those 35 Whelen (AI my fave) 310 Woodleigh going 2400fps. I used one on a 200# eurasian hog at 30 steps, blew a 3/4" exit hole but everything in between was messed up big time! Death run maybe 20 feet!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:46 pm 

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I have a great load worked up with the 260gr AB in my 376 Steyr (61.0gr of H335 with a F215 in Hdy cases) giving 2632 fps out of a 21" barrel and .535" groups at 100 yards.
Mild recoil for this caliber, even off the bench.
Performance on an elk and a bison have been good. Bullet recovered from 36" of penetration on a quartering to cow bison (ended up in rear hind quarter) at 200 yards was double expansion and 95% bullet weight retention.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:35 am 

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Such great stuff here guys. Thank you!

Yes, the 260 gr Accubond does well. I sent a few completely through black bears, but this one was recovered from the off-side hide of one I shot at about 15'.

After tracking down the bear wounded by another hunter. Considerable pucker factor on that one as I could hear the bear moving, hear him breathing, yet couldn't see him in the brush. Finally I saw a bit of bear through the branches and shot it. Never reloaded that Number One so fast!

Here's the recovered 260 gr Accubond:
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Recovered weight was 218 grains and it measures nearly 3/4" diameter. Muzzle velocity was about 2650 fps as I recall. It has varied from 2620 - 2650 with different batches of my handloads over the years.

I remember reading that the 260 Accubond successfully stopped a charging cape buff in Africa - and I don't think that was an event that had been planned for... :grin:

It sure seems like a pretty decent bullet to me. Quite accurate and flat shooting too.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:36 am 

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Joec7651 wrote:
405 grains of hard cast lead at 1824 fps will convince anything to lay down and let ya take its picture. The picture of the rifle isn’t that great but she’s purdy in real life.


Lots of respect here for the big-bore Marlins! Those are GREAT looking cast bullets too. (y)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:49 pm 

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Guy Miner wrote:
Joec7651 wrote:
405 grains of hard cast lead at 1824 fps will convince anything to lay down and let ya take its picture. The picture of the rifle isn’t that great but she’s purdy in real life.


Lots of respect here for the big-bore Marlins! Those are GREAT looking cast bullets too. (y)


Thank you Guy, its an Accurate mold. Sized to .459 with Gator gas checks. I use White Label Carnauba Red for lube.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:46 pm 

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I stick to the "medium" bores where I can get enough bullet energy for most animals but with significantly less recoil and no need for a muzzle break than if I stepped up to one of the magnums in 375, 416, 458, etc. calibers.

My primary medium bores are a 35 Whelen shooting 250gr bullets: Speer HotCor, my leftover Grand Slam supply, and of course Nosler Partitions. I also have a pile of the 250gr Beartooth hardcast GC bullets, that weigh 258gr. If ever needed to go bigger, can just step up to 300gr Hawk and 310gr Woodleigh bullets.


Or my 356 Winchester, which for now I'm shooting only 220gr Speer HotCor in. Still waiting on the 250gr Hawk bullets to arrive (they have a shortage on the jacket materials right now). And will also load up the 250gr Kodiak bullets.

Spring bear just opened in Oregon two days ago, but haven't gotten out yet. Will use both rifles for spring bear this year depending on which part of the unit I go.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:19 pm 
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Guy Miner wrote:
Such great stuff here guys. Thank you!

Yes, the 260 gr Accubond does well. I sent a few completely through black bears, but this one was recovered from the off-side hide of one I shot at about 15'.

After tracking down the bear wounded by another hunter. Considerable pucker factor on that one as I could hear the bear moving, hear him breathing, yet couldn't see him in the brush. Finally I saw a bit of bear through the branches and shot it. Never reloaded that Number One so fast!

Here's the recovered 260 gr Accubond:
Image

Recovered weight was 218 grains and it measures nearly 3/4" diameter. Muzzle velocity was about 2650 fps as I recall. It has varied from 2620 - 2650 with different batches of my handloads over the years.

I remember reading that the 260 Accubond successfully stopped a charging cape buff in Africa - and I don't think that was an event that had been planned for... :grin:

It sure seems like a pretty decent bullet to me. Quite accurate and flat shooting too.

Guy
That's great looking performance Guy! Cant wait to try out the 250 AB on game in my 9.3x62 next deer season.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:12 pm 

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Have been doing some varmint rifle loading of my own here today:

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Cast 405 with enough 3031 for 1700+ fps. That ought to be sufficient.

Yes, that is one heck of an old can of IMR 3031. A buddy who got out of handloading a while back gave me seven pounds of powder, including this one.

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