6.5 Creedmoor 143 X-Eld Load
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DrMike
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Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 46.275 grain H2O = 3.005 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62300 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-26 106.7 48.9 3.17 2943 100.0 62300 10908 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 107.3 47.8 3.10 2912 99.7 62300 11020 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 109.0 47.5 3.08 2896 97.6 62300 11207 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 103.5 47.1 3.05 2890 99.9 62300 10657 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 109.3 49.6 3.21 2887 96.2 62300 11247 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 109.3 47.1 3.05 2877 99.0 62300 10815 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 109.3 47.1 3.05 2877 99.0 62300 10815 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 109.3 47.1 3.05 2877 99.0 62300 10815 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 97.3 43.5 2.82 2875 100.0 62300 9741 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 107.2 47.0 3.04 2872 97.9 62300 10797 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 108.0 46.6 3.02 2856 97.7 62300 10697 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 96.3 43.1 2.79 2853 100.0 62300 9677 1.189 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 96.3 43.1 2.79 2853 100.0 62300 9677 1.189 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 108.5 50.4 3.27 2849 99.3 62300 10304 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 50.1 3.25 2843 97.9 59447 10893 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 50.1 3.25 2838 97.7 59103 10897 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 99.7 44.6 2.89 2831 100.0 62300 9767 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 101.8 44.8 2.91 2830 99.9 62300 10050 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 103.0 42.8 2.77 2830 100.0 62300 9536 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.6 45.0 2.92 2828 98.8 62300 10267 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 110.0 46.6 3.02 2828 97.4 61682 10446 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 97.8 44.4 2.88 2827 99.9 62300 9977 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 101.0 44.5 2.88 2826 99.9 62300 9963 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 104.8 44.5 2.88 2826 98.8 62300 10187 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 103.1 43.7 2.83 2821 100.0 62300 9228 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 106.3 45.3 2.94 2821 98.8 62300 10191 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 95.4 43.0 2.79 2821 99.7 62300 9967 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 95.4 43.0 2.79 2821 99.7 62300 9967 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.0 46.4 3.01 2816 98.4 58000 10678 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 110.0 46.4 3.01 2816 98.4 58000 10678 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 97.6 42.5 2.76 2805 100.0 62300 9644 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 100.5 42.4 2.75 2804 100.0 62300 9511 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 100.5 42.4 2.75 2804 100.0 62300 9508 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 110.0 45.9 2.97 2802 100.0 57919 9712 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 99.8 42.6 2.76 2801 100.0 62300 9470 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 103.2 44.0 2.85 2801 98.6 62300 9974 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 103.2 44.0 2.85 2801 98.6 62300 9974 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 100.0 44.0 2.85 2801 98.6 62300 9974 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 106.6 46.0 2.98 2797 97.1 62300 10063 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 105.8 45.6 2.96 2793 99.4 62300 9808 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.5 43.1 2.79 2787 100.0 62300 9299 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 109.2 46.6 3.02 2785 99.9 62300 9544 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 110.0 48.7 3.16 2784 97.1 58400 10404 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.8 43.7 2.83 2780 99.5 62300 9622 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 110.0 45.6 2.95 2780 96.8 55989 10545 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 103.9 46.7 3.03 2779 98.7 62300 9729 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 45.6 2.95 2773 96.8 60597 9997 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 47.8 3.10 2772 94.9 59120 10355 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 104.0 43.7 2.83 2768 97.8 62300 9693 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 100.0 42.2 2.73 2764 99.7 62300 9450 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 103.2 42.6 2.76 2763 100.0 62300 8737 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 107.6 44.7 2.89 2760 97.3 62300 9747 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 46.7 3.02 2760 99.8 52122 10419 1.274
Hodgdon H380 92.7 40.4 2.62 2759 100.0 62300 9163 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 93.1 40.1 2.60 2749 100.0 62300 8811 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 93.1 40.1 2.60 2749 100.0 62300 8811 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 46.4 3.01 2744 98.9 59847 9496 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 95.2 40.2 2.60 2743 100.0 62300 8730 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 97.5 40.8 2.65 2740 99.4 62300 9278 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 97.5 40.8 2.65 2740 99.4 62300 9278 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 98.7 41.2 2.67 2740 100.0 62300 9088 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 94.4 40.9 2.65 2740 99.4 62300 9272 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 95.3 39.8 2.58 2739 100.0 62300 8749 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 102.8 46.7 3.03 2738 97.0 62300 9500 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 45.0 2.92 2728 97.4 60512 9448 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 92.6 38.6 2.50 2704 100.0 62300 8241 1.252 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 110.0 46.9 3.04 2672 95.4 47076 10620 1.342
Norma MRP 2 110.0 46.9 3.04 2672 95.4 47076 10620 1.342
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 49.5 3.21 2654 88.4 45887 11132 1.352
Lovex S071 110.0 44.4 2.88 2646 99.2 52032 9318 1.325
IMR 7977 Enduron 110.0 46.4 3.01 2633 88.7 58936 9031 1.238 ! Near Maximum !- Thread starter
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DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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Those are definitely sexy, long bullets. Should work very well for deer (and perhaps other, larger game).
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I couldn't resist and ordered a 6.5 Creedmoor this afternoon.
After the big Spring maintenance shutdown I usually buy something after 3 weeks of straight 12 hour shifts as a reward for surviving.
Looking forward to working with this and maybe finding a good load that will work for the boys.
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After the big Spring maintenance shutdown I usually buy something after 3 weeks of straight 12 hour shifts as a reward for surviving.
Looking forward to working with this and maybe finding a good load that will work for the boys.
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DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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You have made a good choice; I certainly like the 6.5 Creedmoor. Looking forward to seeing the rifle and how it performs once you're able to wring it out.
SJB358":36ydur2q said:
Did a little more testing with RL26 using 143 ELD-X bullets, this time treated with HBN coating.
It took about .5 gr more powder to equal velocities but I worked it around the test I had done that showed 48 gr to give me 2999 fps and tight group.
Using HBN the results were:
26" barrel, Nosler Brass 52.70 H2O, BR2 Primers.
48.4 gr Coal of 2.890" 5 shots @ 100 yards .490" ctc including the shot I pulled, av vel 2986 fps ES of 10 SD of 4.5
48.5 gr Coal of 2.885" 5 shots @ 100 yards ..376" ctc av vel 2990 fps ES of 10 SD of 5
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TackDriver284
Handloader
- Feb 13, 2016
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That is a killer load right there. Nice job.
Did you get some powder crush?
Did you get some powder crush?
DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
- 36,902
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That load will do. Very gratifying work.
TackDriver284":1y8lmwsr said:
If you haven't tried 26, it is amazing stuff. A group of us have been calling it pixie dust as where a powder like RL22 fits in a case, it gets speeds like RL25 or better. It is AMAZING stuff in the WSM's, 270/280, 6.5 Swede, 243, 25-06. I really like it alot. Been using it in quite a few cartridges.
TackDriver284
Handloader
- Feb 13, 2016
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SJB358":44qbk419 said:
I agree that RL 26 is a great powder and hard to find on shelves. I don't like buying a pound or two plus pay the haz - mat fees unless i am buying several varieties / pounds of powders. I still have about a pound and a half left of RL 25 that I like to finish. RL 26 and IMR 7977 is my next choices of powders to try in the 7mm / 300 Magnums. If I need to pay the haz mat fee to try the RL 26, I will do it. :mrgreen:
TackDriver284":2gkklq7w said:
Yes you can hear it starting to crush, but remember I did test up to 49 gr of it with the same bullet and it fit. Did not have pressure signs at 49 gr but according to QL the velocity of 3054 fps was high. QL shows 70,538 psi to get the speed I was getting with 49 gr. I did see pressure signs after close to 100 rounds without cleaning, was getting spikes in velocity and had 6 cases with ejector marks. Primers and pockets were still good and it did not have heavy bolt lift. Some of the guys that had worked with Pressure Trace say that is common to not see any sign of over pressure until in the 70k mark.
I am pretty happy with the 48.5 gr load with HBN powder coat, it is well within pressure limits.
I have a 1000 of the Federal GM215M primers coming in to see if I can reduce SD a bit, some of the guys using RL26 say that Mag Primers help, so I decided to go with the Match Large Rifle Primers. They had them at Cabelas split Hazmat with a bud and it cost me $50.00 total for the 1000
Tried the GM215M primers in my 6.5 Creed using RL26 and HBN coated bullets.
The 130 ELD-M bullets seemed to like the Mag primers, ES dropped into the single digits with good groups at 100.
The 143 ELD-X bullets ES opened up, strange they would shoot several almost ditto on velocity and then one would be 15 - 20 fps up or down. Worked up and down the loads that worked out for the BR2 primers, and tried seating shorter and longer by .010" still the same thing. Groups were between .300" and .470" CTC at 100 yards. Velocities were checked with Magnetospeed Sporter.
My sweet spot with 143 ELD-X was 48 gr of RL26 @ 2990-3000 fps, with HBN coating had to come up .5 gr to match non coated, with mag primers it jumped back up so I reduced .5 gr back to 48 gr to match velocity. Tried from 47 - 48.5 gr at .5 gr jumps always same result with mag primers.
Still too early to make a solid conclusion with my set up but it appears the lighter bullet gets a gain from faster ignition were as the heavier does not need it.
The 130's shoot best at the 3000 fps mark as well and I will be testing the new JLK 130 VLDs with both the BR2s and GM215M primers.
Anyone else try these primers with RL26?
The 130 ELD-M bullets seemed to like the Mag primers, ES dropped into the single digits with good groups at 100.
The 143 ELD-X bullets ES opened up, strange they would shoot several almost ditto on velocity and then one would be 15 - 20 fps up or down. Worked up and down the loads that worked out for the BR2 primers, and tried seating shorter and longer by .010" still the same thing. Groups were between .300" and .470" CTC at 100 yards. Velocities were checked with Magnetospeed Sporter.
My sweet spot with 143 ELD-X was 48 gr of RL26 @ 2990-3000 fps, with HBN coating had to come up .5 gr to match non coated, with mag primers it jumped back up so I reduced .5 gr back to 48 gr to match velocity. Tried from 47 - 48.5 gr at .5 gr jumps always same result with mag primers.
Still too early to make a solid conclusion with my set up but it appears the lighter bullet gets a gain from faster ignition were as the heavier does not need it.
The 130's shoot best at the 3000 fps mark as well and I will be testing the new JLK 130 VLDs with both the BR2s and GM215M primers.
Anyone else try these primers with RL26?
Cleveland48
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- Jul 28, 2015
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Wow! I've been very happy with RL16 in my Creedmoor, but it looks like I'll have to give RL 26 a try also. Very impressive performance you are getting!
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