QL Request.25-06
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Guy Miner
Master Loader
- Apr 6, 2006
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I can't help with Quickload, but you might also consider IMR and H 4350. Both are time tested, well proven powders for the 100 gr bullets in the .25-06, with 3340 - 3350 fps and excellent accuracy on tap.
FWIW, Guy
FWIW, Guy
TackDriver284
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Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 100, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30220
Useable Case Capaci: 58.004 grain H2O = 3.766 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.080 inch = 78.23 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19
Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 100, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30220
Useable Case Capaci: 58.004 grain H2O = 3.766 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.080 inch = 78.23 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4831
Bullet : .257, 100, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30220
Useable Case Capaci: 58.004 grain H2O = 3.766 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.080 inch = 78.23 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19
Code:
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 91 48.60 2963 1949 44268 10894 93.7 1.239
-09.0 92 49.14 2995 1992 45684 11028 94.2 1.223
-08.0 93 49.68 3028 2036 47147 11158 94.7 1.208
-07.0 94 50.22 3060 2080 48662 11285 95.2 1.192
-06.0 95 50.76 3093 2124 50228 11408 95.6 1.177
-05.0 96 51.30 3125 2169 51848 11528 96.1 1.162
-04.0 97 51.84 3158 2214 53520 11644 96.5 1.144
-03.0 98 52.38 3190 2260 55259 11756 96.9 1.128
-02.0 99 52.92 3223 2306 57050 11864 97.2 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 100 53.46 3255 2353 58895 11968 97.6 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 54.00 3288 2400 60796 12068 97.9 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 102 54.54 3320 2448 62756 12162 98.2 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 55.08 3353 2496 64782 12253 98.5 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 104 55.62 3385 2544 66879 12338 98.7 1.034 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 56.16 3417 2593 69050 12419 99.0 1.020 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 106 56.70 3449 2642 71297 12494 99.2 1.005 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 54.00 3441 2630 72002 11923 100.0 1.003 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 54.00 3085 2113 49914 11607 91.7 1.177Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 100, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30220
Useable Case Capaci: 58.004 grain H2O = 3.766 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.080 inch = 78.23 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4831
Code:
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 91 46.80 2975 1966 45696 10505 98.7 1.247
-09.0 92 47.32 3006 2006 47127 10594 98.9 1.232
-08.0 93 47.84 3036 2047 48603 10679 99.2 1.216
-07.0 94 48.36 3067 2088 50126 10759 99.4 1.201
-06.0 95 48.88 3097 2130 51697 10834 99.5 1.185
-05.0 96 49.40 3127 2171 53318 10904 99.7 1.168
-04.0 97 49.92 3157 2213 54990 10970 99.8 1.152
-03.0 99 50.44 3187 2255 56715 11030 99.9 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 100 50.96 3216 2297 58496 11086 100.0 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 101 51.48 3246 2340 60334 11136 100.0 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 102 52.00 3275 2382 62231 11180 100.0 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 103 52.52 3305 2425 64189 11223 100.0 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 104 53.04 3334 2468 66211 11264 100.0 1.058 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 105 53.56 3363 2511 68300 11304 100.0 1.043 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 106 54.08 3391 2554 70457 11344 100.0 1.029 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 107 54.60 3420 2597 72686 11383 100.0 1.015 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 102 52.00 3395 2559 73754 10769 100.0 1.011 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 102 52.00 3098 2131 50852 11336 97.4 1.190- Thread starter
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boomer68
Handloader
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If you can find some, Retumbo is your huckleberry with the 25/06 
Guy Miner
Master Loader
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boomer68":23lrpmu5 said:If you can find some, Retumbo is your huckleberry with the 25/06
That's what I use with the 115 gr bullets! YES!
Have stayed with H4350 for the few times I use 100's. IMR 4350 has just as good a reputation and is likely easier to find.
What the heck happened with the supply of H4350? It was common as all get out, and then virtually vanished!
Guy
taylorce1
Handloader
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RL22 isn't half bad either in the .25-06!
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I can get RL22 and Retumbo so maybe I'll look into those as well.
The QL numbers match Barnes' data so I think I just have a slow, but accurate barrel. I know that book values are optimistic but I am running 150 fps+ below them in a 24" barrel. Now that Ca will be 100% copper soon I would like some more speed to insure expansion.
The QL numbers match Barnes' data so I think I just have a slow, but accurate barrel. I know that book values are optimistic but I am running 150 fps+ below them in a 24" barrel. Now that Ca will be 100% copper soon I would like some more speed to insure expansion.
Billyram
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Back when I had my 25-06 there wasn't as many powders around for reloaders but the ones that performed well were 4350 and 4831. My Hart barreled 25-06 would put 5 of just about any 100gr bullet under 1/2" @ 100yds. at close to 3400fps. This load worked well on the small deer we have around here but a good bit of the time there would be no exit so I switched to heaver bullets . 117 gr and 120 gr bullets weren't quite as accurate but the 120gr solid base would shoot near 1/2" and worked well on deer. If a deer ran you wouldn't have any trouble finding it. I still have a box of these.
Billy
Billy
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Guy Miner
Master Loader
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Typically I use Federal match primers, but I don't think there would be any significant change in velocity.
DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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Brisance with either CCI200 or F210 would be so close as to be insignificant in ignition of powders.
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Bbear":3h0150j8 said:
Annually our temps range from height 20s (winter) to over 100 (summer).
With that said I went back and compared my chrono data for 90 grain Hornady GMX with imr 4831 against book and it was spot on. Accuracy wasn't too bad, about an inch. I think that I can improve that by playing with seating depth. On the other hand I've got loads with RL22 and 100 grain TTSX waiting on my bench to test. I really want the TTSX to work.
