6.5 creedmoor 125 pt

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Michael C. Smith

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May 24, 2016
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Going to try some 125 pt in my creedmoor for deer. I am also getting some imr 4451 to try to find a replacement for h 4350. Looks like it takes between .5 to 1 grain more of the 4451 than 4350 for the same fps. I have a really good load with 120 bt and h 4350 but would like to try 4451 with the 125 pt. If someone could run a quick load so I could have a starting point and I good Idea where to stop

6.5 creedmoor
Nosler brass 52.2 water capacity
Fed 210 primers
22 in barrel
Nosler coal is 2.790
125 nosler Partition

Thank you
Michael


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Code: 
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 125, Nosler PART SP 16320
Useable Case Capaci: 48.039 grain H2O = 3.119 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.790 inch = 70.87 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Ramshot Big Game

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   84    39.42   2653    1953   45545  10006     98.9    1.237
-09.0   84    39.86   2680    1993   46993  10093     99.1    1.219
-08.0   85    40.30   2707    2034   48485  10175     99.3    1.201
-07.0   86    40.73   2734    2074   50022  10254     99.5    1.184
-06.0   87    41.17   2761    2115   51607  10328     99.6    1.168
-05.0   88    41.61   2787    2156   53239  10398     99.8    1.151
-04.0   89    42.05   2814    2198   54923  10464     99.9    1.135  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   90    42.49   2840    2239   56658  10525     99.9    1.119  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   91    42.92   2867    2281   58446  10581    100.0    1.104  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   92    43.36   2893    2323   60291  10633    100.0    1.088  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   93    43.80   2919    2365   62193  10681    100.0    1.074  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   94    44.24   2945    2407   64155  10728    100.0    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   95    44.68   2971    2450   66179  10774    100.0    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   96    45.11   2996    2492   68267  10819    100.0    1.030  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   97    45.55   3022    2535   70422  10863    100.0    1.016  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   97    45.99   3048    2578   72647  10907    100.0    1.003  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     93    43.80   3019    2530   73811  10281    100.0    1.001  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     93    43.80   2769    2128   50688  10870     97.6    1.170

Code: 
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 125, Nosler PART SP 16320
Useable Case Capaci: 48.039 grain H2O = 3.119 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.790 inch = 70.87 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62300 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 109.0     51.9     3.36    3079    99.9    62300   12854   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          109.6     50.6     3.28    3041    98.7    62300   12788   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   99.4     46.2     2.99    3024   100.0    62300   11488   1.051  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    111.2     50.3     3.26    3018    95.4    62300   12815   1.054  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  105.6     49.8     3.23    3017    99.0    62300   12393   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    111.5     52.5     3.40    3006    93.7    62300   12786   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       111.6     49.9     3.24    3005    97.4    62300   12464   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 111.6     49.9     3.24    3005    97.4    62300   12464   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       111.6     49.9     3.24    3005    97.4    62300   12464   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  98.5     45.7     2.96    3002   100.0    62300   11420   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            98.5     45.7     2.96    3002   100.0    62300   11420   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       109.2     49.7     3.22    2992    95.7    62300   12361   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 105.4     45.4     2.94    2977   100.0    62300   11288   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        110.0     49.2     3.19    2974    95.5    62300   12210   1.051  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       105.6     46.5     3.01    2974   100.0    62300   10906   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  102.0     47.3     3.07    2971    99.8    62300   11528   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.5     53.3     3.45    2967    97.8    62300   11870   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                104.0     47.6     3.08    2965    99.0    62300   11708   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 99.9     47.1     3.05    2963    99.2    62300   11649   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     103.2     47.2     3.06    2962    99.2    62300   11632   1.066  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 107.7     47.7     3.09    2957    97.3    62300   11828   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      97.5     45.6     2.96    2956    98.7    62300   11617   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        97.5     45.6     2.96    2956    98.7    62300   11617   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  112.0     52.9     3.43    2953    95.5    59546   12411   1.071  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        106.9     47.1     3.05    2953    97.1    62300   11724   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         108.5     48.0     3.11    2949    97.2    62300   11736   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                112.0     52.9     3.43    2948    95.3    59205   12405   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          102.7     45.0     2.92    2946    99.9    62300   11214   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         102.8     45.0     2.92    2946    99.9    62300   11211   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     99.8     45.1     2.93    2944    99.8    62300   11343   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      112.0     49.2     3.19    2944    95.1    61145   11927   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      102.0     45.2     2.93    2943    99.9    62300   11199   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          105.4     46.7     3.02    2930    97.0    62300   11484   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        105.4     46.7     3.02    2930    97.0    62300   11484   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          102.0     46.7     3.02    2930    97.0    62300   11484   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           107.8     45.7     2.96    2928    99.9    62300   10980   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        112.0     49.1     3.18    2927    96.3    57315   12219   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     112.0     49.1     3.18    2927    96.3    57315   12219   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 112.0     48.5     3.14    2927   100.0    57028   11435   1.103  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       108.0     48.3     3.13    2923    98.1    62300   11365   1.079  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   108.6     48.6     3.15    2918    94.9    62300   11479   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      111.5     49.4     3.20    2917    99.2    62300   11149   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       102.9     46.3     3.00    2912    98.4    62300   11167   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.5     45.2     2.93    2911   100.0    62300   10333   1.071  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             105.9     49.4     3.20    2905    97.0    62300   11175   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        94.6     42.8     2.78    2898    99.7    62300   10781   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         102.1     44.7     2.90    2897    98.7    62300   11004   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       95.2     42.6     2.76    2895   100.0    62300   10405   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          95.2     42.6     2.76    2895   100.0    62300   10405   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      106.0     46.3     3.00    2894    95.9    62300   11121   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        112.0     51.5     3.34    2892    94.5    58599   11820   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       97.3     42.6     2.76    2890   100.0    62300   10324   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      112.0     48.2     3.12    2890    94.5    60358   11381   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           112.0     48.2     3.12    2885    94.1    55634   11990   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        97.4     42.2     2.73    2884   100.0    62300   10325   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   109.6     47.2     3.06    2882    95.2    62300   11124   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       112.0     50.6     3.28    2882    92.1    59147   11684   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         100.8     43.7     2.83    2876    99.4    62300   10635   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          99.5     43.2     2.80    2871    98.1    62300   10755   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       99.5     43.2     2.80    2871    98.1    62300   10755   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        96.3     43.3     2.80    2871    98.1    62300   10747   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 112.0     49.3     3.20    2863    98.5    51606   12066   1.145
Vihtavuori N165                    112.0     49.1     3.18    2863    97.2    59302   10934   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        90.2     41.2     2.67    2862   100.0    62300    9769   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       104.7     49.4     3.20    2858    94.9    62300   10843   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       94.8     41.1     2.66    2857   100.0    62300    9756   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    112.0     47.6     3.08    2846    95.3    60207   10803   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        112.0     49.6     3.21    2758    92.2    46392   11961   1.209
Norma MRP 2                        112.0     49.6     3.21    2758    92.2    46392   11961   1.209
Lovex S071                         112.0     46.9     3.04    2751    97.6    51093   10758   1.192
IMR 7977 Enduron                   112.0     49.1     3.18    2743    85.6    59131   10121   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
 
Thanks Dr Mike I am getting some big game powder too. I was looking for imr 4451 is it in quickload?

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Code: 
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 125, Nosler PART SP 16320
Useable Case Capaci: 48.039 grain H2O = 3.119 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.790 inch = 70.87 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : IMR 4451 Enduron

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   88    38.61   2602    1879   46027   9690     95.3    1.230
-09.0   89    39.04   2629    1919   47425   9802     95.6    1.213
-08.0   90    39.47   2656    1958   48863   9911     96.0    1.196
-07.0   91    39.90   2683    1998   50345  10018     96.4    1.180
-06.0   92    40.33   2710    2038   51870  10123     96.7    1.163
-05.0   93    40.76   2737    2079   53440  10224     97.1    1.147
-04.0   94    41.18   2764    2120   55057  10323     97.4    1.132  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   95    41.61   2790    2161   56723  10420     97.7    1.116  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    42.04   2817    2203   58439  10513     98.0    1.101  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   97    42.47   2844    2245   60207  10603     98.2    1.087  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    42.90   2871    2287   62029  10690     98.5    1.072  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   99    43.33   2897    2330   63907  10774     98.7    1.058  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  100    43.76   2924    2373   65843  10855     98.9    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  101    44.19   2950    2416   67839  10932     99.1    1.030  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    44.62   2977    2459   69897  11006     99.3    1.016  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  103    45.05   3003    2503   72020  11077     99.4    1.003  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    42.90   2983    2470   71926  10516    100.0    1.005  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    42.90   2720    2053   52269  10417     93.4    1.159
 
Thank you Dr Mike. Hope to pick the powder up tomorrow and try some load development next week. I hope I can get a node around 2800fps. That should hammer a deer shoulder!

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Looking forward to your results. I've been meaning to try the 125 gr Partition for awhile now. I just have not got around to it.


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I loaded some 125 PT's over RL-17 (I think) and got very good accuracy from them, in the .6 range if I remember correctly. I wouldn't have any qualms about going after deer with them.

Ron
 
I hope to get load and shoot them next week. If I can get them to shoot a inch or less at a 100yards I will be good. Most of my son's and my shots are 100 or less. I like to shoot deer high in the shoulder so I thought these would do the trick. I have a 120 bt load and the 135 berger that shoot a half inch at 100yards. Going to use those if we hunt some places that require longer shots. I can put them behind the shoulder. But my 9 year old twin boys it's a little easier for them to put it in the shoulder so I thought the 125 pt would be better for that. I tried them in my 7mm08 and couldn't get them to shoot. I hope I have better luck in the 6.5.

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The 125 gr PT should be awesome in your Creedmoor. I have shot them
out of a 6.5 Rem Mag and 6.5 JDJ Contender and they are accurate with plenty
of penetration.

JD338
 
I have shot deer with them out of 6.5x55 and they work well. A friend of mine used to use them in his 264 win mag and killed two elk bang flop with them. Keep in mind that they like to jump quite a good ways to the lands to be accurate. The 130 AccuBond works just as good and is more accurate and flies flatter.
 
Well I shot some of the 125 pt today with big game powder 41 41.5 42 gr nothing shot less than 2 inches at 100yards. Had around 150 jump on them. This creedmoor has a very long throat. Suggestions on where to go with the length? I think I will try h4350 with my next test loads. Was getting a lot of smoke with the big game powder.i was using fed210 primers might have to try mag primers if I am going to keep trying the big game.

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I’d seat them as long as possible or .010 off the lands and see what happens. Never seen Partitions shoot really good that far off the rifling.
 
SJB358":28vdrous said:
I’d seat them as long as possible or .010 off the lands and see what happens. Never seen Partitions shoot really good that far off the rifling.
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Ok I will give that a shot and see how that works. If I could get them to shoot around a inch I would be happy with that.

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If you can’t get close to the rifling a 130 AccuBond may be your huckleberry since they tend to thrive on some jump.
 
SJB358":21oxhek6 said:
If you can’t get close to the rifling a 130 AccuBond may be your huckleberry since they tend to thrive on some jump.
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Yes that is going to be my next move If I can't get these to shoot.

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