Can someone run a QL for a 458 Lott please

IdahoCTD

Handloader
Nov 4, 2004
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I have some of the 300gr Nosler Ballistic Tip round nose bullets for the 45-70 I want to run for testing brakes. It's a 26" barrel. Thanks in advance.
 
Nathan... you can shoot a few squirrels with that Lott when you re testing your brakes... seen a couple running through the skiff of snow yesterday! :)
 
I figured they would be out with the 60 degree days we had a week or so ago. I bet those 300gr BT's at 3000+fps would light up a squirrels life. Like "I see the light" :mrgreen:
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61500 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma 203 old                      112.0    109.8     7.12    3103    98.6    60782    7445   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                         112.0    109.8     7.12    3103    98.6    60782    7445   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      106.8    101.4     6.57    3100   100.0    61500    6830   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                      104.5    106.8     6.92    3096    99.8    61500    7082   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                       106.9    106.8     6.92    3096    99.8    61500    7082   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                           112.0    113.9     7.38    3081    97.0    55570    7969   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                 112.0    113.9     7.38    3081    97.0    55570    7969   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      112.0    106.3     6.89    3079   100.0    59140    7103   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       110.7    109.7     7.11    3075    95.8    61500    7426   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  112.0    113.9     7.38    3068    97.6    54264    8085   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       112.0    114.9     7.44    3048    91.8    57400    7649   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     112.0    114.9     7.44    3048    91.8    57400    7649   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        99.7    103.7     6.72    3045    99.4    61500    6859   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       99.4    103.7     6.72    3045    99.4    61500    6859   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901                      105.2     97.0     6.28    3042    99.9    61500    6781   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                   104.2    108.4     7.03    3037    95.6    61500    7124   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                       112.0    106.3     6.89    3022    97.6    56909    7237   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                      112.0    107.4     6.96    3019    97.7    55764    7250   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       111.4    109.6     7.10    3006    91.9    61500    7105   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
 
Mike,

Thanks for that. I only have 2520 on that list and all of those loads are compressed. I have R-7 (which I'm pretty sure I used last time), R-10x, R-15, Varget, Lil Gun, H-4895, and 748 in addition to the 2520. Are any of those good at less than 100% fill?
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0  101    94.32   2748    5030   43837   6464     92.9    1.214
-09.0  102    95.37   2778    5140   45334   6541     93.4    1.196
-08.0  103    96.42   2808    5252   46886   6616     93.9    1.179
-07.0  104    97.46   2838    5365   48495   6689     94.3    1.162
-06.0  105    98.51   2868    5480   50164   6760     94.8    1.145
-05.0  106    99.56   2898    5595   51896   6830     95.2    1.128
-04.0  107   100.61   2928    5712   53694   6897     95.6    1.112  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  108   101.66   2959    5831   55562   6962     96.0    1.096  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  109   102.70   2989    5950   57502   7025     96.4    1.080  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  111   103.75   3019    6071   59518   7086     96.7    1.065  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  112   104.80   3049    6192   61613   7144     97.1    1.050  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  113   105.85   3079    6316   63792   7200     97.4    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  114   106.90   3109    6440   66050   7253     97.7    1.020  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  115   107.94   3139    6565   68393   7304     98.0    1.005  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  116   108.99   3170    6692   70828   7352     98.2    0.991  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  117   110.04   3200    6820   73364   7397     98.5    0.977  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    112   104.80   3185    6758   73012   7084     99.8    0.981  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    112   104.80   2870    5487   50767   6886     90.8    1.139



Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   99    95.85   2792    5194   43469   6822     93.2    1.221
-09.0  100    96.92   2824    5311   44995   6900     93.7    1.202
-08.0  101    97.98   2855    5430   46578   6977     94.2    1.184
-07.0  102    99.05   2886    5550   48220   7052     94.7    1.166
-06.0  103   100.11   2918    5671   49924   7124     95.1    1.149
-05.0  104   101.18   2949    5794   51694   7193     95.5    1.131
-04.0  105   102.24   2981    5918   53532   7261     95.9    1.114  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  107   103.31   3012    6043   55440   7325     96.3    1.098  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  108   104.37   3043    6170   57424   7387     96.7    1.081  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  109   105.44   3075    6297   59485   7447     97.1    1.065  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  110   106.50   3106    6426   61629   7503     97.4    1.049  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  111   107.57   3137    6557   63858   7557     97.7    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  112   108.63   3169    6688   66178   7608     98.0    1.019  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  113   109.70   3200    6821   68592   7655     98.3    1.004  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114   110.76   3231    6955   71107   7700     98.6    0.989  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  115   111.83   3262    7090   73727   7741     98.8    0.974  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    110   106.50   3252    7045   74310   7371     99.9    0.975  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    110   106.50   2910    5643   49497   7265     91.0    1.149



Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-10x

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    81.99   2783    5158   45453   5976    100.0    1.213
-09.0   91    82.90   2808    5252   46859   6008    100.0    1.197
-08.0   92    83.81   2833    5345   48307   6040    100.0    1.181
-07.0   93    84.72   2857    5439   49797   6071    100.0    1.165
-06.0   94    85.63   2882    5533   51330   6102    100.0    1.150
-05.0   95    86.55   2906    5627   52909   6133    100.0    1.136
-04.0   96    87.46   2931    5722   54535   6163    100.0    1.121  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   97    88.37   2955    5816   56209   6193    100.0    1.107  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    89.28   2979    5911   57932   6222    100.0    1.093  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    90.19   3003    6006   59707   6251    100.0    1.079  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    91.10   3027    6102   61536   6280    100.0    1.066  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    92.01   3050    6197   63420   6308    100.0    1.052  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    92.92   3074    6293   65361   6336    100.0    1.039  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    93.83   3097    6390   67361   6363    100.0    1.027  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    94.74   3121    6487   69423   6390    100.0    1.014  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    95.66   3144    6584   71548   6417    100.0    1.002  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    91.10   3105    6420   72646   6058    100.0    1.003  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    91.10   2906    5626   50497   6585     99.8    1.152



Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-7

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   84    78.57   2732    4972   46052   5561    100.0    1.215
-09.0   85    79.44   2755    5057   47402   5593    100.0    1.199
-08.0   86    80.32   2779    5143   48788   5625    100.0    1.184
-07.0   87    81.19   2802    5229   50211   5656    100.0    1.170
-06.0   87    82.06   2825    5315   51673   5687    100.0    1.155
-05.0   88    82.94   2848    5401   53174   5718    100.0    1.141  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   89    83.81   2870    5488   54715   5749    100.0    1.127  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   90    84.68   2893    5574   56299   5779    100.0    1.114  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   91    85.55   2915    5661   57925   5809    100.0    1.101  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   92    86.43   2938    5748   59595   5838    100.0    1.087  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   93    87.30   2960    5835   61312   5868    100.0    1.075  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   94    88.17   2982    5923   63076   5896    100.0    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   95    89.05   3004    6011   64888   5925    100.0    1.050  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   96    89.92   3026    6099   66751   5953    100.0    1.038  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   97    90.79   3048    6187   68666   5981    100.0    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   98    91.67   3069    6275   70635   6008    100.0    1.014  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     93    87.30   3027    6104   71176   5680    100.0    1.017  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     93    87.30   2857    5436   51387   6138     99.9    1.154

I do note that these are all with the Ballistic Silver Tip RN. The BT is not in the data base. However, it should give a fair approximation.
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   95    92.25   2793    5195   43988   6722     94.9    1.218
-09.0   96    93.28   2823    5307   45464   6795     95.3    1.201
-08.0   97    94.30   2853    5420   46992   6865     95.7    1.183
-07.0   98    95.33   2883    5535   48573   6934     96.1    1.166
-06.0   99    96.35   2912    5650   50209   7000     96.5    1.149
-05.0  100    97.38   2942    5767   51902   7064     96.9    1.133
-04.0  101    98.40   2972    5884   53656   7125     97.2    1.116  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  103    99.43   3002    6003   55472   7184     97.5    1.100  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  104   100.45   3032    6122   57353   7241     97.8    1.085  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  105   101.48   3061    6243   59302   7295     98.1    1.069  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  106   102.50   3091    6364   61323   7346     98.4    1.054  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  107   103.53   3120    6486   63417   7395     98.6    1.040  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  108   104.55   3150    6610   65589   7441     98.8    1.025  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  109   105.58   3179    6734   67842   7484     99.0    1.011  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  110   106.60   3209    6859   70180   7524     99.2    0.997  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  111   107.63   3238    6985   72608   7561     99.4    0.983  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    106   102.50   3223    6920   73237   7147    100.0    0.983  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    106   102.50   2910    5641   49864   7191     92.8    1.149



Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon Lil'Gun

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   66    66.87   2646    4665   47597   4700    100.0    1.225
-09.0   67    67.61   2665    4732   48845   4735    100.0    1.212
-08.0   68    68.36   2684    4798   50121   4771    100.0    1.199
-07.0   69    69.10   2703    4865   51422   4806    100.0    1.186
-06.0   69    69.84   2721    4933   52751   4841    100.0    1.173
-05.0   70    70.59   2740    5000   54108   4876    100.0    1.161  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   71    71.33   2758    5067   55493   4911    100.0    1.149  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   72    72.07   2776    5135   56907   4945    100.0    1.137  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   72    72.81   2795    5203   58351   4979    100.0    1.125  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   73    73.56   2813    5270   59825   5013    100.0    1.114  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   74    74.30   2831    5339   61330   5047    100.0    1.103  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   74    75.04   2849    5407   62866   5080    100.0    1.092  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   75    75.79   2867    5475   64435   5114    100.0    1.081  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   76    76.53   2885    5544   66036   5146    100.0    1.071  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   77    77.27   2903    5613   67672   5179    100.0    1.060  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   77    78.02   2920    5682   69342   5211    100.0    1.050  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     74    74.30   2869    5484   70220   4950    100.0    1.055  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     74    74.30   2776    5132   51926   5185    100.0    1.170



Cartridge          : .458 Lott
Bullet             : .458, 300, Nosler BallSilver RN 51834
Useable Case Capaci: 105.210 grain H2O = 6.831 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Winchester 748

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   91    95.22   2814    5274   43396   6751     96.6    1.208
-09.0   92    96.28   2844    5390   44909   6816     97.0    1.190
-08.0   93    97.34   2875    5506   46479   6878     97.4    1.172
-07.0   94    98.39   2906    5624   48108   6937     97.7    1.155
-06.0   95    99.45   2936    5742   49802   6993     98.1    1.138
-05.0   96   100.51   2966    5862   51557   7046     98.4    1.121
-04.0   97   101.57   2997    5982   53385   7097     98.6    1.104  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   98   102.63   3027    6104   55283   7143     98.9    1.088  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   99   103.68   3057    6226   57257   7187     99.1    1.072  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  100   104.74   3087    6349   59310   7228     99.3    1.056  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101   105.80   3117    6474   61447   7265     99.5    1.041  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  102   106.86   3147    6598   63672   7298     99.6    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  103   107.92   3177    6724   65988   7328     99.7    1.011  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  104   108.97   3207    6851   68402   7354     99.8    0.996  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  105   110.03   3237    6978   70917   7377     99.9    0.982  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  106   111.09   3266    7106   73541   7396    100.0    0.968  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101   105.80   3244    7010   74650   6937    100.0    0.969  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101   105.80   2934    5734   49701   7241     94.8    1.136
 
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