QL Request

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erikc838

Beginner
Oct 8, 2017
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224 Valkyrie
7 twist
18” barrel
Federal case CCI450
Not sure on COAL. I would say 2.180”
53 grain varmageddon if available or a 55 grain tipped varmint bullet.
CFE223

Thanks
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .224 Valkyrie
Bullet             : .224, 55, Sierra Blitzking 1455
Useable Case Capaci: 35.129 grain H2O = 2.281 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.180 inch = 55.37 mm
Barrel Length      : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   70    24.58   2213     598   19929   7283     69.1    1.299
-18.0   71    25.19   2268     628   21127   7602     70.7    1.270
-16.0   73    25.80   2324     659   22398   7924     72.4    1.242
-14.0   75    26.42   2380     692   23749   8249     74.0    1.213
-12.0   77    27.03   2438     726   25185   8574     75.6    1.186
-10.0   78    27.65   2497     761   26711   8900     77.2    1.159
-08.0   80    28.26   2556     798   28333   9225     78.8    1.132
-06.0   82    28.88   2616     836   30059   9549     80.4    1.106
-04.0   84    29.49   2677     875   31894   9869     81.9    1.081  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   85    30.11   2738     916   33851  10186     83.4    1.055  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   87    30.72   2800     957   35934  10498     84.8    1.031  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   89    31.33   2862    1001   38140  10804     86.2    1.005  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   90    31.95   2925    1045   40520  11102     87.6    0.976  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   92    32.56   2989    1091   43047  11393     88.9    0.948  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0   94    33.18   3053    1138   45743  11674     90.1    0.922  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0   96    33.79   3117    1186   48627  11944     91.3    0.896  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     87    30.72   3002    1101   43125  11305     93.0    0.948  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     87    30.72   2570     806   29614   9267     74.0    1.115



Sorry, couldn't get the Varmageddon to load
 
Can you run it again with the correct COAL? Thank you

Dwh7271":2obzyttw said:
Code: 
Cartridge          : .224 Valkyrie
Bullet             : .224, 55, Nosler Varmag Btip 17240
Useable Case Capaci: 26.628 grain H2O = 1.729 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.332 inch = 33.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   76    20.34   2082     530   18667   5413     63.1    1.338
-18.0   78    20.84   2134     556   19804   5663     64.7    1.307
-16.0   80    21.35   2188     584   21014   5916     66.3    1.277
-14.0   82    21.86   2242     614   22307   6173     68.0    1.247
-12.0   84    22.37   2298     645   23687   6432     69.6    1.217
-10.0   85    22.88   2354     677   25161   6693     71.2    1.188
-08.0   87    23.39   2412     710   26725   6955     72.8    1.159
-06.0   89    23.89   2471     745   28421   7217     74.4    1.131
-04.0   91    24.40   2530     782   30225   7478     76.0    1.103
-02.0   93    24.91   2591     820   32157   7739     77.6    1.075  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   95    25.42   2652     859   34229   7997     79.1    1.048  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   97    25.93   2715     900   36453   8252     80.7    1.021  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   99    26.44   2778     942   38839   8503     82.2    0.993  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  101    26.95   2842     986   41417   8750     83.6    0.964  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  103    27.45   2907    1032   44189   8990     85.1    0.936  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  104    27.96   2972    1079   47180   9223     86.4    0.908  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     95    25.42   2861    1000   40885   8789     88.5    0.967  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     95    25.42   2422     716   28334   6908     67.7    1.138
Click to expand...
 
Already fixed it.
QL is kind of funny with certain bullets in this cartridge. Shortens the COAL automatically.
Might want to try 17 if the ;ight bullets don't blow up in that 7 twist.

Code: 
Cartridge          : .224 Valkyrie
Bullet             : .224, 55, Sierra Blitzking 1455
Useable Case Capaci: 35.129 grain H2O = 2.281 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.180 inch = 55.37 mm
Barrel Length      : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   74    25.00   2208     595   19416   7355     67.6    1.306
-18.0   75    25.63   2262     625   20596   7718     69.5    1.277
-16.0   77    26.25   2319     657   21852   8087     71.4    1.248
-14.0   79    26.88   2377     690   23190   8460     73.2    1.219
-12.0   81    27.50   2436     725   24615   8835     75.1    1.192
-10.0   83    28.13   2497     761   26134   9212     77.0    1.164
-08.0   85    28.75   2559     800   27742   9587     78.9    1.137
-06.0   86    29.38   2622     840   29477   9960     80.7    1.110
-04.0   88    30.00   2687     881   31319  10330     82.5    1.083  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   90    30.63   2752     925   33283  10693     84.2    1.057  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   92    31.25   2818     970   35386  11049     85.9    1.031  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   94    31.88   2885    1017   37633  11395     87.5    1.006  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   96    32.50   2953    1065   40037  11730     89.0    0.976  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   98    33.13   3021    1115   42612  12051     90.5    0.947  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0   99    33.75   3090    1166   45370  12358     91.9    0.920  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  101    34.38   3160    1219   48315  12647     93.2    0.893  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     92    31.25   3044    1131   42490  11960     94.8    0.947  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     92    31.25   2565     803   29154   9507     73.2    1.120
 
Valkyrie shows max around 37 Scotty
I'd think you could go up but figured I'd stick w QL max on an open forum :grin:
 
Dwh7271":16t7p294 said:
Valkyrie shows max around 37 Scotty
I'd think you could go up but figured I'd stick w QL max on an open forum :grin:
Click to expand...

Oh okay! That seems incredibly low huh?
 
Dwh7271":3nxrr639 said:
Valkyrie shows max around 37 Scotty
I'd think you could go up but figured I'd stick w QL max on an open forum :grin:
Click to expand...

It's interesting. SAAMI max is 55,000 PSI. I've been shooting 28.0 grains of 2520 with a 53 grain Varmageddon
 
I can raise it if you'd like?

Code: 
Cartridge          : .224 Valkyrie
Bullet             : .224, 55, Nosler BalTip 39526
Useable Case Capaci: 34.982 grain H2O = 2.271 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.180 inch = 55.37 mm
Barrel Length      : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.45% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-04.5   94    32.90   3032    1123   44891  11544     89.7    0.930
-04.0   94    33.06   3048    1135   45588  11614     90.0    0.923
-03.6   94    33.21   3064    1147   46296  11684     90.3    0.917
-03.1   95    33.37   3081    1159   47017  11752     90.6    0.910  ! Near Maximum !
-02.7   95    33.52   3097    1171   47750  11820     90.9    0.904  ! Near Maximum !
-02.2   96    33.68   3113    1184   48495  11887     91.2    0.897  ! Near Maximum !
-01.8   96    33.83   3129    1196   49254  11954     91.5    0.891  ! Near Maximum !
-01.3   97    33.99   3146    1209   50026  12019     91.8    0.884  ! Near Maximum !
-00.9   97    34.14   3162    1221   50812  12084     92.1    0.878  ! Near Maximum !
-00.4   98    34.30   3178    1234   51606  12148     92.4    0.872  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    34.45   3195    1247   52423  12212     92.7    0.866  ! Near Maximum !
+00.4   98    34.60   3211    1259   53249  12274     92.9    0.859  ! Near Maximum !
+00.9   99    34.76   3228    1272   54091  12336     93.2    0.853  ! Near Maximum !
+01.3   99    34.91   3244    1285   54947  12396     93.5    0.847  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8  100    35.07   3260    1298   55818  12456     93.7    0.841  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.2  100    35.22   3277    1311   56706  12515     94.0    0.835  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    34.45   3260    1298   55602  12394     94.7    0.843  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    34.45   3126    1193   49371  11974     90.2    0.890  ! Near Maximum !
 
I'd think this one would be pretty good.

Code: 
Cartridge          : .224 Valkyrie
Bullet             : .224, 70, Nosler RDF HPBT 53066 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 33.655 grain H2O = 2.185 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.180 inch = 55.37 mm
Barrel Length      : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.482% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-04.8   90    30.58   2788    1208   45932  11802     93.6    1.009
-04.3   91    30.74   2803    1222   46670  11870     93.8    1.002
-03.9   91    30.89   2819    1235   47415  11937     94.1    0.994  ! Near Maximum !
-03.4   92    31.05   2834    1248   48183  12003     94.3    0.987  ! Near Maximum !
-02.9   92    31.20   2849    1261   48959  12068     94.6    0.980  ! Near Maximum !
-02.4   93    31.36   2864    1275   49748  12133     94.8    0.973  ! Near Maximum !
-01.9   93    31.51   2879    1288   50552  12196     95.1    0.965  ! Near Maximum !
-01.4   94    31.67   2894    1302   51370  12258     95.3    0.958  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   94    31.82   2909    1316   52201  12320     95.5    0.951  ! Near Maximum !
-00.5   95    31.98   2925    1329   53049  12380     95.8    0.944  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   95    32.13   2940    1343   53910  12440     96.0    0.937  ! Near Maximum !
+00.5   95    32.28   2955    1357   54786  12498     96.2    0.931  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0   96    32.44   2970    1371   55678  12555     96.4    0.924  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4   96    32.59   2985    1385   56586  12612     96.6    0.917  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.9   97    32.75   3000    1399   57509  12667     96.8    0.910  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4   97    32.90   3016    1414   58451  12721     97.0    0.904  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     95    32.13   2993    1393   57222  12531     97.5    0.913  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     95    32.13   2882    1291   50733  12289     94.1    0.963  ! Near Maximum !
 
I have the 70 RDF moving 2870 right now but wanted something for coyotes as well. I have had the RDF blow up, causing superficial damage to a few jacks and don't feel comfortable shooting them at a dog. A few others have passed clean through. The only other bullets I have on hand, is the Hdy 60gr HP and the 88gr ELD-M.
 
That 88 ELD M will most likely hammer coyotes too. Once Dewey gets them and try’s them I plan to give them a shot in my 224 as well. Right now I’m running 75 ELD M’s at 2950 with RL17. I think a lot out of that load.
 
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