7mm Rem mag Quickload help?

desertcj

Handloader
Sep 27, 2010
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So, I have this 7 mag that I built to shoot 180 grain bullets. Along the way I'm thinking maybe I'd like to use this to hunt my home state of California. If anyone would be so inclined to run my setup through Quickload, I'd appreciate it. 26" barrel, 139gr Barnes LRX at 3.400" OAL. I'd assume a 140gr E-tip would be very similar? I'm also interested in the 150gr E-tip and the 168gr Barnes LRX. I have a lot of H1000 and I think I need to get some RL26, maybe some 7828ssc? Oh, I forgot...65,000psi would be fair game as far as I'm concerned. Thanks
 
Is 65,000 a typo? Saami list the 7 Rem mag cartridge max at 61,000 psi (420 MPa)... or did you mean 7 RUM?

I didn't see anything for the 139gr LRX in QL. If you take some measurements I can make a bullet profile for it.
 
Wyo7200":32epp0gn said:
Is 65,000 a typo? Saami list the 7 Rem mag cartridge max at 61,000 psi (420 MPa)... or did you mean 7 RUM?

I didn't see anything for the 139gr LRX in QL. If you take some measurements I can make a bullet profile for it.

No 65,000psi wasnt a typo. No biggy. It's a belted mag. "Normal" cartridges are rated at 63,000psi so??? 140 E-tip is probably close enough to the 139gr LRX. I always start low and work up in small increments with a chronograph and I know what to look for.
 
25-06 is rated at 63,000psi. I understand being cautious, in this case 61,000 is overly so. I routinely shoot reloads in several. 243's that are predicted in quickload to be above the 60,000psi rating of that cartridge. No problems and not even loose primer pockets after 4-5 firings.
 
It doesn’t matter what another cartridges max saami is... it’s illogical to think that one cartridge is safe at xx,xxxx because another cartridge has been rated at xx,xxx. And a max Saami psi isn’t created by taking samples from other cartridges. It’s set for a pretty good reason. Why flirt with exceeding it?

You’re asking fellow reloaders to disregard safe practices and take a pretty big step into the red. It’s putting a lot at risk for both the person posting the QL and to whoever comes across the thread. So it’s not just you, but the folks that skip through the talk and just go to the numbers. It’s a liability.

If it’s a common practice for you to go beyond saami, I’d suggest investing in your own copy of QL.







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Wyo7200":83foebub said:
It doesn’t matter what another cartridges max saami is... it’s illogical to think that one cartridge is safe at xx,xxxx because another cartridge has been rated at xx,xxx. And a max Saami psi isn’t created by taking samples from other cartridges. It’s set for a pretty good reason. Why flirt with exceeding it?

You’re asking fellow reloaders to disregard safe practices and take a pretty big step into the red. It’s putting a lot at risk for both the person posting the QL and to whoever comes across the thread. So it’s not just you, but the folks that skip through the talk and just go to the numbers. It’s a liability.

If it’s a common practice for you to go beyond saami, I’d suggest investing in your own copy of QL.







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OK, feel free to not help? I'm going to do what I'm going to do regardless of your opinion, but thanks for the concern.
 
No dog in this really, but most of us usually use QL to see what the top end looks like on paper. If I run 65K stuff for someone, I usually just send a PM. Also, the 25-06 is a 65,000PSI cartridge by SAAMI and the 30-06 is a 58,000 PSI cartridge. Same for the 270 Winchester being a 65K cartridge. All the same case..

The Win Mag case is the same, whether it is a 300 Win, 264, 338, etc.. I don't typically shoot for a working load to be at 65,000 with any cartridge, but QL does give a good idea of what we should be looking for at an absolute top end.

I also expect someone to work up their handloads safely and know the process. If a monkey jumps on a forum, grabs some internet data, picks the 65K load and locks up his gun then he is a darned idiot anyhow and would have hurt himself using the same data using 61K max eventually.

Not disagreeing with the caution stated here, but we do have to apply the common sense factor to how we load!

And honestly, working from 61K to a top end 65K load isn't all that big a deal. It is there, but you aren't talking 100's of FPS from anything I have seen.
 
Thanks SJB358, I found the 150gr E-tip data I was looking for. You had posted it in 2015! I couldn't find any 140gr E-tip data though. My best guess is that max loads would be a couple grains higher than the 150gr across the board.
 
desertcj":1mjrdhrq said:
Thanks SJB358, I found the 150gr E-tip data I was looking for. You had posted it in 2015! I couldn't find any 140gr E-tip data though. My best guess is that max loads would be a couple grains higher than the 150gr across the board.

Shoot me a reminder and I will try and run them this evening.
 
140 ETip

Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler E-Tip 59955
Useable Case Capaci: 75.018 grain H2O = 4.871 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.347% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.5 93 69.50 3220 3223 54507 12194 100.0 1.254 ! Near Maximum !
-03.1 94 69.75 3231 3245 55178 12211 100.0 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
-02.8 94 70.00 3242 3268 55857 12228 100.0 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
-02.4 94 70.25 3254 3291 56544 12245 100.0 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
-02.1 95 70.50 3265 3313 57239 12262 100.0 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
-01.7 95 70.75 3276 3336 57942 12278 100.0 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 96 71.00 3287 3359 58654 12295 100.0 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 96 71.25 3298 3382 59374 12311 100.0 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 96 71.50 3309 3405 60102 12327 100.0 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
-00.3 97 71.75 3321 3428 60839 12343 100.0 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 97 72.00 3332 3451 61586 12359 100.0 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
+00.3 97 72.25 3343 3474 62342 12375 100.0 1.180 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7 98 72.50 3354 3497 63108 12391 100.0 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 98 72.75 3365 3520 63884 12406 100.0 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 98 73.00 3376 3543 64670 12422 100.0 1.160 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.7 99 73.25 3387 3566 65467 12437 100.0 1.154 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 72.00 3466 3735 76436 11873 100.0 1.089 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 72.00 3123 3032 47810 12826 98.6 1.308


Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler E-Tip 59955
Useable Case Capaci: 75.018 grain H2O = 4.871 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.357% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.6 95 67.50 3177 3137 54536 12182 97.8 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
-03.2 95 67.75 3189 3161 55184 12219 98.0 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
-02.9 96 68.00 3201 3185 55840 12256 98.1 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-02.5 96 68.25 3213 3209 56505 12291 98.2 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
-02.1 96 68.50 3225 3233 57179 12326 98.3 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
-01.8 97 68.75 3237 3257 57862 12360 98.4 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 97 69.00 3249 3282 58555 12394 98.5 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
-01.1 97 69.25 3261 3306 59256 12427 98.6 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 98 69.50 3273 3330 59967 12458 98.7 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
-00.4 98 69.75 3285 3355 60688 12490 98.8 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 70.00 3297 3379 61419 12520 98.9 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
+00.4 99 70.25 3309 3404 62158 12550 99.0 1.159 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7 99 70.50 3321 3429 62909 12579 99.1 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.1 100 70.75 3333 3454 63669 12607 99.2 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 100 71.00 3345 3479 64440 12634 99.2 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8 100 71.25 3357 3504 65224 12661 99.3 1.134 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 70.00 3453 3706 74354 12128 100.0 1.077 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 70.00 3082 2952 50000 12184 93.0 1.276

Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler E-Tip 59955
Useable Case Capaci: 75.018 grain H2O = 4.871 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.338% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.4 105 71.50 3133 3051 53324 11866 97.8 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 105 71.75 3145 3075 53967 11899 97.9 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
-02.7 105 72.00 3157 3099 54624 11932 98.1 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
-02.4 106 72.25 3169 3123 55286 11965 98.2 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 106 72.50 3181 3146 55959 11996 98.3 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
-01.7 106 72.75 3194 3171 56641 12027 98.4 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 107 73.00 3206 3195 57332 12056 98.5 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 107 73.25 3218 3219 58021 12086 98.6 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 107 73.50 3230 3243 58746 12114 98.7 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
-00.3 108 73.75 3242 3268 59469 12141 98.8 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 74.00 3254 3292 60203 12168 98.9 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
+00.3 109 74.25 3266 3317 60943 12193 99.0 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+00.7 109 74.50 3279 3342 61702 12218 99.1 1.159 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 109 74.75 3291 3366 62468 12242 99.2 1.153 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 110 75.00 3303 3391 63247 12265 99.3 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.7 110 75.25 3315 3416 64035 12287 99.4 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 74.00 3420 3636 73129 11744 100.0 1.080 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 74.00 3024 2843 49044 11784 92.4 1.285


150 ETip

Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler E-Tip 59426
Useable Case Capaci: 73.815 grain H2O = 4.793 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.342% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.4 105 70.50 3057 3112 53311 11893 98.5 1.269 ! Near Maximum !
-03.1 105 70.75 3069 3137 53989 11924 98.6 1.261 ! Near Maximum !
-02.7 105 71.00 3081 3162 54679 11954 98.7 1.254 ! Near Maximum !
-02.4 106 71.25 3093 3187 55377 11983 98.8 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
-02.1 106 71.50 3105 3212 56086 12011 98.9 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
-01.7 107 71.75 3118 3237 56806 12039 99.0 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 107 72.00 3130 3262 57536 12065 99.1 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 107 72.25 3142 3288 58277 12091 99.2 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 108 72.50 3154 3313 59031 12116 99.3 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
-00.3 108 72.75 3166 3339 59794 12139 99.3 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 73.00 3178 3364 60569 12162 99.4 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
+00.3 109 73.25 3190 3390 61356 12184 99.5 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
+00.7 109 73.50 3202 3416 62154 12205 99.5 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 110 73.75 3214 3442 62965 12225 99.6 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 110 74.00 3227 3468 63789 12244 99.7 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.7 110 74.25 3239 3494 64626 12262 99.7 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 73.00 3334 3702 74076 11664 100.0 1.102 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 73.00 2955 2909 48942 11912 93.6 1.319


Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler E-Tip 59426
Useable Case Capaci: 73.815 grain H2O = 4.793 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.362% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.6 95 66.50 3096 3192 54431 12189 98.4 1.260 ! Near Maximum !
-03.3 95 66.75 3108 3217 55112 12224 98.5 1.253 ! Near Maximum !
-02.9 96 67.00 3120 3242 55802 12257 98.7 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
-02.5 96 67.25 3132 3267 56501 12291 98.8 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
-02.2 97 67.50 3144 3292 57209 12323 98.9 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
-01.8 97 67.75 3156 3317 57928 12354 98.9 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 97 68.00 3168 3343 58655 12385 99.0 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
-01.1 98 68.25 3180 3368 59395 12415 99.1 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 98 68.50 3192 3393 60142 12444 99.2 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
-00.4 98 68.75 3204 3419 60902 12472 99.3 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 69.00 3216 3444 61672 12500 99.4 1.191 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.4 99 69.25 3228 3470 62451 12526 99.4 1.184 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7 99 69.50 3240 3496 63242 12552 99.5 1.178 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.1 100 69.75 3252 3522 64044 12577 99.5 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 100 70.00 3264 3547 64857 12601 99.6 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8 101 70.25 3275 3573 65683 12624 99.7 1.158 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 69.00 3362 3765 75017 12034 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 69.00 3008 3013 49807 12281 94.0 1.309


Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler E-Tip 59426
Useable Case Capaci: 73.815 grain H2O = 4.793 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.352% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.5 94 68.50 3130 3263 54315 12135 100.0 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
-03.2 94 68.75 3141 3287 55016 12152 100.0 1.278 ! Near Maximum !
-02.8 94 69.00 3153 3310 55725 12169 100.0 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
-02.5 95 69.25 3164 3334 56444 12186 100.0 1.263 ! Near Maximum !
-02.1 95 69.50 3175 3357 57172 12203 100.0 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
-01.8 95 69.75 3186 3381 57909 12220 100.0 1.249 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 96 70.00 3197 3405 58656 12236 100.0 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
-01.1 96 70.25 3208 3428 59413 12253 100.0 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 96 70.50 3219 3452 60179 12269 100.0 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
-00.4 97 70.75 3230 3476 60956 12286 100.0 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 97 71.00 3241 3500 61743 12302 100.0 1.214 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.4 97 71.25 3252 3523 62540 12318 100.0 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7 98 71.50 3264 3547 63347 12334 100.0 1.200 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.1 98 71.75 3275 3571 64166 12349 100.0 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 98 72.00 3285 3595 64995 12365 100.0 1.187 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8 99 72.25 3296 3619 65835 12380 100.0 1.180 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 71.00 3369 3781 76998 11821 100.0 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 71.00 3042 3083 47462 12852 99.1 1.351


168 LRX

Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 168, Barnes 'LRX'BT 28407
Useable Case Capaci: 72.285 grain H2O = 4.693 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.368% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.7 91 65.50 2977 3306 55916 11708 100.0 1.339 ! Near Maximum !
-03.3 92 65.75 2987 3329 56626 11728 100.0 1.332 ! Near Maximum !
-02.9 92 66.00 2998 3352 57344 11748 100.0 1.324 ! Near Maximum !
-02.6 92 66.25 3008 3376 58071 11768 100.0 1.316 ! Near Maximum !
-02.2 93 66.50 3019 3399 58808 11788 100.0 1.309 ! Near Maximum !
-01.8 93 66.75 3029 3423 59554 11808 100.0 1.302 ! Near Maximum !
-01.5 94 67.00 3039 3446 60310 11827 100.0 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
-01.1 94 67.25 3050 3470 61075 11847 100.0 1.287 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 94 67.50 3060 3493 61850 11866 100.0 1.280 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-00.4 95 67.75 3070 3517 62636 11886 100.0 1.273 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 95 68.00 3081 3540 63431 11905 100.0 1.265 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.4 95 68.25 3091 3564 64237 11924 100.0 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7 96 68.50 3101 3588 65054 11943 100.0 1.251 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.1 96 68.75 3112 3612 65881 11961 100.0 1.244 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.5 96 69.00 3122 3636 66718 11980 100.0 1.237 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8 97 69.25 3132 3660 67567 11998 100.0 1.230 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 95 68.00 3189 3794 78212 11474 100.0 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 95 68.00 2913 3165 49097 12511 99.8 1.403


Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 168, Barnes 'LRX'BT 28407
Useable Case Capaci: 72.285 grain H2O = 4.693 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.379% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.8 93 63.50 2941 3226 55025 11877 99.2 1.322 ! Near Maximum !
-03.4 93 63.75 2952 3251 55714 11909 99.3 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 94 64.00 2963 3276 56412 11939 99.4 1.307 ! Near Maximum !
-02.7 94 64.25 2975 3301 57120 11969 99.5 1.299 ! Near Maximum !
-02.3 94 64.50 2986 3326 57838 11998 99.5 1.292 ! Near Maximum !
-01.9 95 64.75 2997 3351 58566 12027 99.6 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
-01.5 95 65.00 3009 3377 59303 12054 99.6 1.277 ! Near Maximum !
-01.1 95 65.25 3020 3402 60049 12081 99.7 1.270 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 96 65.50 3031 3427 60809 12106 99.7 1.263 ! Near Maximum !
-00.4 96 65.75 3042 3453 61576 12131 99.8 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 66.00 3054 3479 62356 12155 99.8 1.249 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.4 97 66.25 3065 3504 63130 12178 99.9 1.242 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.8 97 66.50 3076 3530 63946 12201 99.9 1.235 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.1 98 66.75 3087 3556 64758 12222 99.9 1.228 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.5 98 67.00 3099 3581 65580 12242 99.9 1.221 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.9 98 67.25 3110 3607 66416 12262 100.0 1.214 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 66.00 3179 3770 75313 11656 100.0 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 66.00 2871 3074 50471 12132 95.7 1.369


Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(CIP)
Bullet : .284, 168, Barnes 'LRX'BT 28407
Useable Case Capaci: 72.285 grain H2O = 4.693 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.357% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-03.6 102 67.50 2913 3165 54001 11627 99.3 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
-03.2 103 67.75 2924 3190 54683 11654 99.4 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
-02.9 103 68.00 2936 3214 55381 11679 99.5 1.312 ! Near Maximum !
-02.5 104 68.25 2947 3239 56086 11705 99.5 1.305 ! Near Maximum !
-02.1 104 68.50 2958 3264 56801 11729 99.6 1.297 ! Near Maximum !
-01.8 104 68.75 2970 3290 57528 11752 99.7 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 105 69.00 2981 3315 58265 11774 99.7 1.282 ! Near Maximum !
-01.1 105 69.25 2992 3340 59012 11796 99.8 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
-00.7 105 69.50 3004 3365 59771 11816 99.8 1.267 ! Near Maximum !
-00.4 106 69.75 3015 3391 60539 11836 99.8 1.260 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 70.00 3026 3416 61323 11855 99.9 1.253 ! Near Maximum !
+00.4 107 70.25 3038 3442 62115 11872 99.9 1.245 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7 107 70.50 3049 3467 62920 11889 99.9 1.238 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.1 107 70.75 3060 3493 63739 11905 100.0 1.231 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4 108 71.00 3071 3519 64568 11919 100.0 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8 108 71.25 3083 3545 65412 11933 100.0 1.217 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 70.00 3159 3722 74901 11328 100.0 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 70.00 2830 2988 49660 11831 95.5 1.377



I ran this under the CIP rating of 62K'ish and a 3.400 COAL for you DesertCJ. I also adjusted it to spit out .25 increments, so if you wanna see the 65K speed, just avert your eyes lower on the chart! :lol:

Hope that helps you out.
 
I also sorta think you can see what I meant about the last 4K PSI.. To me as I look at the tables, it looks like you can gain about 40FPS on average going from 61K to 65K, some a bit more, but even 50 FPS isn't really a big deal. I always sorta let the flat spot tell me what the gun wants and let it eat.
 
Yes! Thank you so much! That really fills out the picture for me. I probably won't even be able to blow myself up though? Lol, just kidding. As always, I will be starting low and working up slowly. Probably 1 grain at a time with these amounts of powder. In 308 size cases, I use .5gr steps.
 
You’ll be good and it looks like the numbers are falling about where we were thinking.
 
Yeah, 7828ssc is looking a bit surprising to me. I knew it was good and I already have some, but it looks to be just as good as RL26 here!
 
I am currently using 72.8 grains of Retumbo and 160 Accubonds and its moving nicely at 3,140 fps with a 26 inch barrel without pressure signs. I got to 3,170 fps when i saw pressure, so backed off for accuracy. Do not use this load without working up. RL-26 and 7828 is indeed great powders, just have not tried them yet.
 
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