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Michael C. Smith

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Just got a new Thompson center venture in 243. It has a 22in 1x10 twist barrel. Will be used for deer hunting. 40 to 250 yards. Looking for a place to start with reloading for it. Shoulder shots are my norm. I have h4350 varget imr4895 imr4064 r26 r15. I want to shoot nosler bullets. Need recommendations on what bullet and wieght for the 1x10 twist. Like the idea of the Partition 95 to 100 grain. Thoughts and advice welcome.
Also any opinions on the rifle also.

Thank yall
Michael.

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Pick your poison. A 10 twist barrel will handle either Partition just fine. So will either powder, but I'd be more inclined to the slower burning 4350 with those weight bullets. You will get better case fill along with some better velocity with the 4350 using 95-100 gr bullets in a 243 vs the 4895 and 4064.

Can't speak to the R26 or R15, but 4350 will serve you well.
 
The 85gr Partition is a dandy deer bullet as well. As long as it shoots well any of the 885-95gr bullets will work well.


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Thebear_78":cfweu592 said:
The 85gr Partition is a dandy deer bullet as well. As long as it shoots well any of the 885-95gr bullets will work well.


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Yep!! Don't know where he's from, but as long as he's not routinely running into 300lb Northern bruisers, the 85 grain Partition is pretty much an ideal whitetail bullet. High speed and full penetration through vitals from any angle you can dream up, 30' away or not.
 
I would start with R-26 and 95 or 100 gr. Partitions. 4350 would be my second choice. If thinking lead free the 90gr. E-tip would be a good one and then the 80 gr. TTSX. I would also consider 90 AB and the 95 BT.

My 243s really like R-26 with the Partitions.

I also have a bunch of 85 gr. TSX bullets and Hunter has been the powder for these. They also work very well on deer.
 
Great thanks guys. I am in Alabama so big deer are 200# 150 to 180 the norm. Could someone run a quick load for a starting point with the 95 and 100grain partitions with r26 and h4350. 22in barrel.

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Code: 
Cartridge          : .243 Win.
Bullet             : .243, 95, Nosler PART SP 16315
Useable Case Capaci: 49.789 grain H2O = 3.233 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    39.15   2705    1543   43268  10522     95.1    1.258
-09.0   88    39.59   2733    1575   44602  10642     95.5    1.241
-08.0   89    40.02   2761    1608   45975  10759     95.9    1.223
-07.0   90    40.46   2789    1641   47389  10872     96.3    1.206
-06.0   91    40.89   2817    1675   48844  10982     96.7    1.189
-05.0   92    41.33   2846    1708   50342  11089     97.1    1.173
-04.0   93    41.76   2874    1742   51884  11192     97.4    1.157  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    42.20   2902    1776   53473  11291     97.7    1.141  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    42.63   2929    1810   55108  11387     98.0    1.125  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    43.07   2957    1845   56793  11479     98.3    1.110  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    43.50   2985    1879   58527  11567     98.6    1.094  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    43.94   3013    1914   60314  11651     98.8    1.080  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    44.37   3040    1950   62156  11730     99.0    1.065  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    44.81   3068    1985   64053  11806     99.2    1.051  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    45.24   3095    2021   66008  11877     99.4    1.037  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  102    45.68   3122    2056   68023  11943     99.6    1.023  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    43.50   3109    2039   68379  11354    100.0    1.021  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    43.50   2817    1674   48808  11252     93.4    1.190


Cartridge          : .243 Win.
Bullet             : .243, 95, Nosler PART SP 16315
Useable Case Capaci: 49.789 grain H2O = 3.233 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    44.55   2798    1651   40440  12524     97.6    1.303
-09.0   91    45.05   2833    1693   41971  12650     98.1    1.280
-08.0   92    45.54   2869    1736   43567  12767     98.5    1.258
-07.0   93    46.04   2904    1779   45232  12875     98.8    1.237
-06.0   94    46.53   2939    1822   46967  12973     99.2    1.215
-05.0   95    47.03   2974    1866   48779  13061     99.4    1.194
-04.0   96    47.52   3009    1910   50670  13140     99.6    1.174
-03.0   97    48.02   3044    1955   52646  13208     99.8    1.153  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    48.51   3079    2000   54708  13266     99.9    1.133  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    49.01   3113    2045   56864  13313    100.0    1.114  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    49.50   3148    2090   59119  13350    100.0    1.095  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    50.00   3182    2136   61475  13383    100.0    1.076  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    50.49   3216    2182   63942  13414    100.0    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    50.99   3250    2228   66516  13444    100.0    1.039  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    51.48   3283    2274   69192  13473    100.0    1.021  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    51.98   3317    2320   71982  13501    100.0    1.004  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    49.50   3303    2302   74803  12762    100.0    0.996  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    49.50   2912    1789   45701  13423     96.0    1.224
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .243 Win.
Bullet             : .243, 100, Nosler PART SP 35642
Useable Case Capaci: 49.323 grain H2O = 3.203 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   89    43.74   2744    1672   40585  12488     98.1    1.327
-09.0   90    44.23   2778    1714   42108  12606     98.5    1.305
-08.0   91    44.71   2812    1756   43695  12716     98.9    1.282
-07.0   92    45.20   2846    1799   45349  12816     99.2    1.260
-06.0   93    45.68   2880    1842   47074  12907     99.4    1.239
-05.0   94    46.17   2914    1885   48873  12989     99.7    1.218
-04.0   95    46.66   2948    1929   50750  13060     99.8    1.197
-03.0   96    47.14   2981    1973   52708  13122     99.9    1.176  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   97    47.63   3014    2018   54752  13173    100.0    1.156  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   98    48.11   3047    2062   56888  13214    100.0    1.137  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   99    48.60   3080    2107   59118  13252    100.0    1.117  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  100    49.09   3113    2152   61449  13288    100.0    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  101    49.57   3146    2197   63871  13323    100.0    1.080  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  102    50.06   3178    2243   66388  13357    100.0    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  103    50.54   3210    2288   69008  13389    100.0    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  104    51.03   3242    2334   71739  13420    100.0    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     99    48.60   3228    2313   74609  12681    100.0    1.018  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     99    48.60   2856    1811   45634  13423     96.6    1.249



Cartridge          : .243 Win.
Bullet             : .243, 100, Nosler PART SP 35642
Useable Case Capaci: 49.323 grain H2O = 3.203 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    38.61   2659    1570   43811  10543     95.8    1.277
-09.0   88    39.04   2686    1602   45152  10659     96.2    1.259
-08.0   89    39.47   2714    1635   46532  10772     96.6    1.241
-07.0   90    39.90   2741    1668   47953  10881     97.0    1.224
-06.0   91    40.33   2768    1702   49415  10987     97.3    1.207
-05.0   92    40.76   2796    1736   50919  11090     97.6    1.190
-04.0   93    41.18   2823    1770   52467  11189     98.0    1.174  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    41.61   2850    1804   54061  11285     98.2    1.158  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    42.04   2877    1838   55702  11376     98.5    1.142  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   95    42.47   2904    1873   57391  11464     98.7    1.127  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   96    42.90   2931    1908   59130  11548     99.0    1.111  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   97    43.33   2958    1943   60921  11627     99.2    1.096  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   98    43.76   2984    1978   62765  11703     99.4    1.082  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   99    44.19   3011    2013   64664  11774     99.5    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  100    44.62   3038    2049   66621  11841     99.6    1.053  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  101    45.05   3064    2085   68637  11903     99.8    1.040  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     96    42.90   3048    2063   68998  11282    100.0    1.037  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     96    42.90   2771    1705   49369  11298     94.1    1.207
 
If your not going to shoot 1000yds or bench rest, Winchester,Remington,Federal,Hornady and a bunch of others will work fine for hunting and less expensive to buy.
 
truck driver":13cqf27j said:
If your not going to shoot 1000yds or bench rest, Winchester,Remington,Federal,Hornady and a bunch of others will work fine for hunting and less expensive to buy.
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That's what I was thinking. I need to make a run to my lgs!

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