QL 22-250 AI 40 degree

frankm

Handloader
May 10, 2009
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Can QL do the AI cartridges?

If so would someone run one for the following:

22-250 AI
Fed 210M
80 grain Berger VLD
COL 2.60

Powders:
R22 and
IMR 4831

Thanks for any input.
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .22-250 Ackley Improved
Bullet             : .224, 80, Berger VLD #22422
Useable Case Capaci: 51.018 grain H2O = 3.313 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.600 inch = 66.04 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-22 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    42.80   3058    1661   44451  12920     96.0    1.296
-09.0   91    43.27   3093    1700   45981  13067     96.5    1.275
-08.0   92    43.75   3128    1739   47560  13209     96.9    1.255
-07.0   93    44.22   3164    1778   49191  13346     97.4    1.236
-06.0   94    44.70   3199    1818   50878  13477     97.7    1.216
-05.0   95    45.17   3234    1858   52622  13602     98.1    1.198
-04.0   96    45.65   3269    1898   54425  13721     98.4    1.179
-03.0   97    46.12   3304    1939   56290  13834     98.7    1.161  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    46.60   3339    1980   58219  13940     99.0    1.143  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    47.07   3374    2022   60214  14039     99.2    1.125  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    47.55   3408    2064   62279  14132     99.4    1.108  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    48.03   3443    2106   64415  14217     99.6    1.091  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    48.50   3477    2148   66626  14296     99.7    1.074  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    48.98   3512    2191   68916  14367     99.9    1.058  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    49.45   3546    2234   71286  14430     99.9    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    49.93   3580    2277   73741  14486    100.0    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    47.55   3462    2129   66087  14043     99.9    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    47.55   3349    1993   58498  14144     98.5    1.139  ! Near Maximum !

Code:
Cartridge          : .22-250 Ackley Improved
Bullet             : .224, 80, Berger VLD #22422
Useable Case Capaci: 51.018 grain H2O = 3.313 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.600 inch = 66.04 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : IMR 4831

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    39.32   3027    1628   46114  11624     99.7    1.290
-09.0   88    39.76   3058    1661   47559  11708     99.8    1.271
-08.0   89    40.19   3088    1694   49046  11787     99.9    1.253
-07.0   90    40.63   3118    1727   50576  11860    100.0    1.235
-06.0   91    41.07   3147    1760   52150  11927    100.0    1.218
-05.0   92    41.51   3177    1793   53769  11989    100.0    1.200
-04.0   93    41.94   3206    1826   55435  12049    100.0    1.183  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    42.38   3236    1860   57150  12107    100.0    1.167  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    42.82   3265    1893   58914  12165    100.0    1.150  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    43.25   3293    1927   60730  12222    100.0    1.134  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    43.69   3322    1960   62599  12278    100.0    1.119  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    44.13   3351    1994   64523  12334    100.0    1.103  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    44.56   3379    2028   66504  12388    100.0    1.088  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    45.00   3407    2062   68543  12442    100.0    1.073  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    45.44   3435    2096   70644  12495    100.0    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  102    45.87   3463    2130   72807  12548    100.0    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    43.69   3359    2005   65971  12147    100.0    1.093  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    43.69   3280    1911   59219  12425    100.0    1.147  ! Near Maximum !
 
Dwh7271, thank you for running this!

Does the QL case capacity look correct to you? I was thinking it was closer to 48 grains. A couple friends have rifles in this caliber and they re running imr7828 around 41-42 grs with a 75 grain bullet for 3425 fps. Thus my wondering about the capacity.

Frank
 
I thoought it looked a hair high but went with it.
I'll check my 250 AI and see what the capacity is.
 
Dwh, while you’re being so kind, would you be able to run the same cartridge 22-250AI with the 90g Berger VLD, with a COAL around 2.800”.

Can you run the ladder that tests all powders, up to say, 60k PSI?

I’m musing a new build...

Thanks if you find the time!

Bob
 
I shot N140 in my 22-250AI and the Hornady 68 OTM. It did not heat the barrel up much at all. If I shot slow, it was barely warm around the chamber, that's it. worth trying! Enjoy that 22-250AI, to me it is as wicked as the 220 Swift. They say you can kill deer with that 68gr Hornady too. I only killed coyotes and a few prairie dogs. It had an 8" twist and at 200yds it would make those PDs go 5 ft high in the air, spinning to the right! It was awesome, ha.
 
Preacher, I shot quite a few goats with those 68g Hornadys. They worked quite well though not as good as the 75g version which really punch above their weight!

The 68s are about perfect in a 10-twist in my opinion.
 
I found a great node with mine and 75gr ELD-Ms at 3370fps using RL23. I don't shoot it hard or hot, but a slow three shot group gave me 0.58" at 300 yards during load development. I'll wring it out this summer to see what it can really do.

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My Marine SIL and his Force Recon company used Black Hills .223 with the 77gr match bullet. He said it was one and done on haji! Chilled their doo-doo pronto...so it seems any decent (twisted right of course) .22 Centerfire is deadly with that 77! I have a Bushmaster Predator (8") I have only used the Federal factory with the 69gr Sierra. It hits hard too. Made my longest shot ( for me) at 405 on an unlucky cottontail. :)
 
Here you go Bob

Code:
Cartridge          : .22-250 Ackley Improved
Bullet             : .224, 90, Berger VLD #22423
Useable Case Capaci: 51.539 grain H2O = 3.346 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61000 psi, or 420 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

34 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570 *C                 104.8     52.5     3.40    3390    97.5    61000   14987   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        108.0     54.7     3.54    3379    97.4    59565   15225   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 *C              106.6     54.9     3.56    3373    97.8    61000   14784   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C               103.9     53.5     3.47    3360    99.3    61000   14330   1.229  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        108.0     51.6     3.34    3340   100.0    59874   13172   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    108.0     51.6     3.34    3340   100.0    59874   13172   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C               93.0     47.5     3.08    3323   100.0    61000   12828   1.237  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        103.9     49.3     3.20    3322    99.8    61000   13488   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C                     103.9     49.3     3.20    3322    99.8    61000   13488   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 98.9     50.1     3.25    3322    99.9    61000   13263   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                  96.0     46.6     3.02    3321    99.4    61000   13535   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   98.7     50.1     3.24    3320    99.9    61000   13233   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                        94.2     46.7     3.03    3314   100.0    61000   13012   1.227  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           100.4     46.3     3.00    3313    99.7    61000   13119   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        95.0     46.3     3.00    3313    99.7    61000   13119   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     96.3     48.6     3.15    3313    98.6    61000   13671   1.228  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              101.7     48.1     3.11    3311   100.0    61000   12511   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                91.5     46.3     3.00    3311   100.0    61000   12632   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         96.1     46.1     2.99    3301    99.6    61000   13021   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        100.0     49.3     3.20    3301    99.8    61000   12841   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        105.2     49.4     3.20    3299    99.8    61000   12804   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T                   105.2     49.4     3.20    3299    99.8    61000   12804   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 100.4     49.0     3.18    3296    99.5    61000   13358   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C               96.3     46.2     3.00    3292   100.0    61000   12925   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                     96.3     46.2     3.00    3292   100.0    61000   12925   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        96.3     46.2     3.00    3292   100.0    61000   12925   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      98.9     46.5     3.01    3291    99.9    61000   12947   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         98.9     46.5     3.01    3291    99.9    61000   12947   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation     99.7     48.3     3.13    3270    98.5    61000   12941   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C                107.3     54.3     3.52    3270    92.1    61000   13586   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      96.2     49.8     3.23    3268   100.0    61000   12316   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       97.6     46.0     2.98    3266    99.4    61000   12745   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217 *C                       108.0     50.5     3.27    3258   100.0    54644   13493   1.295
ADI AR 2209                         93.1     44.0     2.85    3257    99.9    61000   12324   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C               93.6     44.5     2.88    3253    99.9    61000   12370   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       108.0     53.0     3.43    3249    97.7    54351   14153   1.289
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          94.3     44.8     2.90    3246    99.9    61000   12285   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T            98.4     45.7     2.96    3237   100.0    61000   11596   1.236  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                 94.9     45.6     2.95    3234    99.2    61000   12336   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                    98.8     45.6     2.95    3234    99.2    61000   12336   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 *C              108.0     55.5     3.60    3233    95.7    53548   14655   1.323
Raufoss RA4                         91.8     43.6     2.83    3232    99.9    61000   12099   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           91.8     43.6     2.83    3232    99.9    61000   12099   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 *C                 107.9     50.7     3.29    3219    96.0    61000   12811   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        93.7     45.0     2.92    3209   100.0    61000   11765   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       92.8     43.5     2.82    3208    99.6    61000   11883   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              92.5     46.4     3.00    3204    99.9    61000   11784   1.225  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        90.3     42.6     2.76    3201   100.0    61000   11018   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T               96.3     44.5     2.88    3201    99.3    61000   11962   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                  98.7     46.4     3.01    3194   100.0    61000   11525   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         104.8     53.6     3.47    3192    92.8    61000   12562   1.228  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            93.2     42.4     2.75    3190   100.0    61000   11126   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                  99.1     45.1     2.92    3188    99.5    61000   11664   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       96.5     45.8     2.97    3187   100.0    61000   11368   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         102.0     45.8     2.97    3187   100.0    61000   11368   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        91.9     46.5     3.01    3173    99.2    61000   11672   1.228  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 91.2     41.9     2.72    3160   100.0    61000   10521   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 108.0     54.3     3.52    3150    87.9    54260   13804   1.332
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T              100.9     47.4     3.07    3148    94.0    61000   11767   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     108.0     54.7     3.54    3085    89.2    51306   12921   1.324
Hodgdon 50BMG                      108.0     52.1     3.38    3081    84.9    51140   12991   1.322
Somchem 12.7-0                     108.0     53.0     3.43    3022    84.6    51264   12053   1.317
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  108.0     52.4     3.40    3020    93.0    47377   12588   1.383
Accurate 8700                      108.0     53.5     3.47    3008    92.7    46140   12624   1.382
Vihtavuori 20N29 *C                108.0     55.2     3.58    2989    89.8    45353   12790   1.408
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       108.0     52.4     3.40    2951    90.5    44289   12348   1.424
NC A3502 ,test only                108.0     50.2     3.25    2716    66.9    39147   10275   1.488
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           108.0     50.2     3.25    2690    71.0    37088   10553   1.533
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       108.0     50.2     3.25    1923    33.0    20057    5066   2.008
 
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