bob_dobalina
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Hi all, Could I bother anyone to do a QuickLoad for
Reloder 26
110 AccuBond
25-06 Tikka T3X
22.4" barrell
Reloder 26
110 AccuBond
25-06 Tikka T3X
22.4" barrell
Quickload for RL26 110 AB 25-06
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Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 110, Nosler AccuBond 53742
Useable Case Capaci: 60.236 grain H2O = 3.911 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 90 53.91 2918 2080 43872 13850 98.8 1.260
-09.0 91 54.51 2955 2132 45552 13971 99.1 1.238
-08.0 92 55.11 2991 2185 47304 14081 99.4 1.216
-07.0 93 55.71 3027 2238 49132 14181 99.6 1.195
-06.0 94 56.31 3063 2291 51039 14269 99.8 1.174
-05.0 95 56.91 3099 2345 53031 14347 99.9 1.154
-04.0 96 57.50 3134 2399 55110 14414 100.0 1.134
-03.0 97 58.10 3170 2454 57279 14469 100.0 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 58.70 3205 2509 59530 14517 100.0 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 99 59.30 3240 2564 61866 14564 100.0 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 59.90 3275 2619 64296 14610 100.0 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 101 60.50 3309 2675 66825 14655 100.0 1.039 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 102 61.10 3344 2731 69459 14698 100.0 1.021 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 103 61.70 3378 2787 72202 14739 100.0 1.004 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 62.30 3412 2844 75061 14779 100.0 0.987 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 105 62.90 3446 2901 78040 14818 100.0 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 59.90 3424 2863 80639 14015 100.0 0.965 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 59.90 3046 2266 49383 14951 97.5 1.182- Thread starter
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bob_dobalina
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Thanks DrMike!
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bob_dobalina
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I have a couple questions, but more about using QuickLoad data in general.
I believe SAAMI max PSI is 62,000 for the 25-06, yet I often see QL say "Near Maximum" over SAAMI pressure - is this just a setting for max PSI, and I'm sure I should just stick with not going over 62,000 no matter what QL says?
Along those same lines, do you have a rule of thumb for what you pick as your target max load from the data? Of course you would stop increasing powder at any sign of pressure while shooting, but before you even go to the range, you get a "plan" and load up progressive loads - how would you pick your max load you want to try out of this data? The reason I ask is I only pushed a 100gr with RL 26 to 58 or 58.5 grains.
Thanks for any insight.
I believe SAAMI max PSI is 62,000 for the 25-06, yet I often see QL say "Near Maximum" over SAAMI pressure - is this just a setting for max PSI, and I'm sure I should just stick with not going over 62,000 no matter what QL says?
Along those same lines, do you have a rule of thumb for what you pick as your target max load from the data? Of course you would stop increasing powder at any sign of pressure while shooting, but before you even go to the range, you get a "plan" and load up progressive loads - how would you pick your max load you want to try out of this data? The reason I ask is I only pushed a 100gr with RL 26 to 58 or 58.5 grains.
Thanks for any insight.
Bob, the 25-06 is a 65K PSI SAAMI round so that’s why you see the data that high.
With 26 or any powder I use my Chrono to keep me under the FPS listed in order to stay below overmax pressures.
As for starting loads, I like to start at where the round would be useful to me. So, with the 110 AB I’d probably not do anything serious until I was in the 3000-3050 range and know anything above that would be gravy.
With 26 or any powder I use my Chrono to keep me under the FPS listed in order to stay below overmax pressures.
As for starting loads, I like to start at where the round would be useful to me. So, with the 110 AB I’d probably not do anything serious until I was in the 3000-3050 range and know anything above that would be gravy.
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bob_dobalina
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Thanks Scott, I'm hoping to hit and find good accuracy around 3100fps with my 22.4" barrel.
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bob_dobalina
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My primers started getting a little flat around 3110 fos yesterday. I was running low on my current jug of RL 26 so thought I'd transition to my new one, shot a couple low loads with the Chrono to get a baseline and it was like 15 fps slower so looking real good. But then I went to shot groups and the primers were pretty flat on the lower range (but grouped really well), I'm guessing around 2950+. So now I don't know what to think. It was a little warmer today -70F, 50s yesterday.
joelkdouglas
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Just my opinion, I've read lots of info over the years about how reading primers isn't a reliable method of determining pressure. Different types or lots of primers, different firing pins, etc. As a result I pretty much ignore the primers now. My first "reliable" sign of pressure is high velocity on the chrono; if I see a velocity higher than the book I assume the pressure is higher. And if I get to heavy bolt lift or an ejection mark those are pretty clear signs.
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bob_dobalina
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joelkdouglas":3qbhjnpl said:
Thanks, Joel - I always read your username as "Joe Elk Douglas". I might just work up to my planned velocity a little slower with the new powder can. It was a 2 grain jump to my next set is why I held off. On the primer note, do you think RL26 would be better served with a different primer in the 25-06? I'm using WLRs.
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Funny about Joe Elk! Bill our elk camp “seasoned” rep said the same. Nope, Joel K.
I can’t say about either the WLRs or Scotty’s BR2s. I haven’t used either of them in the 25-06. Of course you could always try the CCI250s if you can find 100 of them nearby. Might help, could be worse.
I did note in my 30-06 CCI250s gave me higher velocity than GM215Ms with RL26 at the same charge amount. I wouldn’t have much confidence they would always do that though.
Are you seeing pressure signs with your loads? My barrel is 24 inches so maybe a little more velocity potential, but I got to 3400 fps without noticeable pressure signs. I would think with a 22 inch barrel that 3100 fps would be within reach safely.
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I can’t say about either the WLRs or Scotty’s BR2s. I haven’t used either of them in the 25-06. Of course you could always try the CCI250s if you can find 100 of them nearby. Might help, could be worse.
I did note in my 30-06 CCI250s gave me higher velocity than GM215Ms with RL26 at the same charge amount. I wouldn’t have much confidence they would always do that though.
Are you seeing pressure signs with your loads? My barrel is 24 inches so maybe a little more velocity potential, but I got to 3400 fps without noticeable pressure signs. I would think with a 22 inch barrel that 3100 fps would be within reach safely.
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joelkdouglas
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Just re-read your post. You are reading flat primers as possible pressure signs. Could be right, like I said I ignore primer signs.
Anyway, CCI250s might make a difference, in that I’ve read CCI primers have harder cups than other primers. So the primers might present different signs.
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Anyway, CCI250s might make a difference, in that I’ve read CCI primers have harder cups than other primers. So the primers might present different signs.
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joelkdouglas":237h7ipe said:
I tried 250’s in my 25-06 load and did net a little more speed but accuracy fell a bit, so I’m back at the BR2’s. I’ve seen 250’s become a hotter primer than 215M’s in the past 10 years or so, or at least in velocity over a few of my rifles.
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Do CCI200s and BR2s have the same hard cups? I would assume so but not sure.
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