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Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 120, Barnes 'TTSX'BT S 30242
Useable Case Capaci: 49.622 grain H2O = 3.222 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 97 47.61 2776 2053 42762 12055 96.7 1.227
-09.0 98 48.14 2811 2106 44343 12189 97.2 1.209
-08.0 99 48.67 2847 2160 45996 12315 97.7 1.192
-07.0 100 49.20 2883 2215 47723 12433 98.1 1.174
-06.0 101 49.73 2919 2271 49529 12543 98.5 1.156
-05.0 102 50.26 2955 2327 51419 12644 98.8 1.139
-04.0 103 50.78 2992 2385 53397 12736 99.1 1.120
-03.0 104 51.31 3028 2442 55468 12819 99.4 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 105 51.84 3064 2501 57633 12893 99.6 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 106 52.37 3100 2560 59914 12956 99.8 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 52.90 3136 2620 62301 13009 99.9 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 109 53.43 3172 2681 64808 13052 100.0 1.024 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 110 53.96 3208 2742 67441 13085 100.0 1.006 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 111 54.49 3244 2803 70209 13109 100.0 0.988 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 55.02 3279 2866 73121 13132 100.0 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 113 55.55 3315 2928 76187 13153 100.0 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 52.90 3299 2899 78933 12365 100.0 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 52.90 2893 2230 49010 12917 94.6 1.157
Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 120, Barnes 'TTSX'BT S 30242
Useable Case Capaci: 49.622 grain H2O = 3.222 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62350 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 107.6 52.9 3.43 3136 99.9 62350 13010 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 108.3 51.7 3.35 3097 98.5 62350 12927 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 98.2 47.1 3.05 3085 100.0 62350 11643 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 104.4 50.9 3.30 3075 98.8 62350 12543 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 109.9 51.4 3.33 3073 95.1 62350 12940 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 97.2 46.7 3.02 3061 100.0 62350 11576 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 97.2 46.7 3.02 3061 100.0 62350 11576 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.2 51.0 3.30 3059 97.2 62350 12594 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 110.2 51.0 3.30 3059 97.2 62350 12594 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 110.2 51.0 3.30 3059 97.2 62350 12594 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 110.2 53.6 3.47 3058 93.4 62350 12901 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 112.0 54.7 3.54 3052 95.9 62350 12665 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 108.0 50.8 3.29 3048 95.4 62350 12497 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 112.0 54.7 3.54 3048 95.7 62101 12664 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 104.0 46.3 3.00 3033 100.0 62350 11445 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 108.8 50.3 3.26 3032 95.3 62350 12347 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 104.1 47.4 3.07 3031 100.0 62350 11047 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 100.7 48.2 3.13 3026 99.8 62350 11673 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 109.3 54.5 3.53 3023 97.5 62350 12011 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 112.0 50.1 3.25 3023 100.0 59917 11631 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 112.0 50.7 3.28 3022 96.6 60059 12479 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 112.0 50.7 3.28 3022 96.6 60059 12479 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 102.8 48.5 3.14 3019 98.9 62350 11848 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 98.7 48.1 3.12 3018 99.1 62350 11790 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 101.9 48.1 3.12 3017 99.1 62350 11773 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 111.2 50.5 3.27 3014 95.0 62350 12110 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 106.5 48.7 3.16 3011 97.0 62350 11963 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 96.3 46.6 3.02 3010 98.5 62350 11758 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 96.3 46.6 3.02 3010 98.5 62350 11758 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 105.8 48.1 3.12 3009 96.8 62350 11865 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 107.2 49.1 3.18 3004 97.0 62350 11870 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 101.4 45.9 2.97 3001 99.8 62350 11364 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 101.5 45.9 2.98 3001 99.8 62350 11361 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 98.5 46.0 2.98 2999 99.8 62350 11489 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 100.6 46.0 2.98 2996 99.8 62350 11340 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 112.0 53.2 3.45 2989 94.9 61187 12076 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 100.9 47.6 3.09 2984 96.7 62350 11619 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 104.2 47.6 3.09 2984 96.7 62350 11619 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 104.2 47.6 3.09 2984 96.7 62350 11619 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 106.4 46.6 3.02 2983 99.9 62350 11126 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 112.0 49.8 3.23 2980 94.4 58142 12257 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 106.7 49.3 3.20 2975 97.9 62350 11495 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 112.0 52.2 3.38 2973 92.4 61528 11946 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 111.8 49.7 3.22 2973 94.6 62350 11609 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 107.4 49.7 3.22 2973 94.6 62350 11609 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 110.0 50.3 3.26 2968 99.0 62350 11274 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 104.2 46.1 2.99 2967 100.0 62350 10485 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 101.7 47.2 3.06 2965 98.2 62350 11305 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 112.0 51.0 3.30 2962 98.7 54218 12299 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 104.7 50.5 3.27 2958 96.7 62350 11305 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 112.0 50.7 3.28 2953 97.4 62041 11166 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 93.5 43.7 2.83 2953 99.7 62350 10935 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 93.9 43.4 2.81 2951 100.0 62350 10547 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 93.9 43.4 2.81 2951 100.0 62350 10547 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 100.9 45.6 2.96 2950 98.6 62350 11148 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 104.8 47.3 3.06 2947 95.6 62350 11254 1.056 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 96.0 43.4 2.81 2945 100.0 62350 10469 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 96.1 43.0 2.79 2940 100.0 62350 10477 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 108.5 48.3 3.13 2936 94.9 62350 11253 1.056 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 99.6 44.6 2.89 2930 99.3 62350 10787 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 111.8 49.0 3.18 2929 95.5 62350 11031 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 98.4 44.2 2.86 2926 97.9 62350 10911 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 98.4 44.2 2.86 2926 97.9 62350 10911 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 95.3 44.2 2.87 2925 97.9 62350 10903 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 93.3 41.7 2.70 2911 100.0 62350 9865 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 103.6 50.5 3.27 2910 94.6 62350 10969 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 112.0 51.2 3.32 2858 92.8 49184 12236 1.163
Norma MRP 2 112.0 51.2 3.32 2858 92.8 49184 12236 1.163
Lovex S071 112.0 48.4 3.14 2846 97.9 54269 10979 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 54.0 3.50 2831 84.8 48273 12596 1.167
IMR 7977 Enduron 112.0 50.7 3.28 2826 85.9 61453 10363 1.071 ! Near Maximum !
Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 139, Lapua Scenar GB458 6018 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 49.145 grain H2O = 3.191 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 94 45.99 2610 2103 42101 12062 98.4 1.331
-09.0 95 46.50 2643 2156 43701 12173 98.8 1.308
-08.0 97 47.01 2676 2211 45371 12276 99.1 1.284
-07.0 98 47.52 2709 2266 47116 12370 99.4 1.262
-06.0 99 48.03 2742 2321 48937 12455 99.6 1.240
-05.0 100 48.55 2775 2377 50840 12531 99.7 1.218
-04.0 101 49.06 2808 2434 52828 12598 99.9 1.196
-03.0 102 49.57 2841 2491 54907 12654 100.0 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 103 50.08 2873 2548 57085 12701 100.0 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 104 50.59 2906 2606 59362 12740 100.0 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 51.10 2938 2664 61747 12777 100.0 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 106 51.61 2970 2723 64247 12813 100.0 1.095 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 107 52.12 3002 2782 66868 12847 100.0 1.076 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 108 52.63 3034 2842 69618 12880 100.0 1.057 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 109 53.14 3066 2902 72503 12911 100.0 1.038 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 110 53.66 3098 2962 75536 12941 100.0 1.020 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 51.10 3076 2920 78662 12173 100.0 1.017 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 51.10 2725 2292 47899 13047 96.8 1.244
Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 139, Lapua Scenar GB458 6018 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 49.145 grain H2O = 3.191 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62350 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 105.2 51.2 3.32 2946 100.0 62350 12786 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 105.9 50.1 3.24 2915 99.5 62350 12868 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 107.5 49.8 3.23 2901 97.1 62350 13046 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 102.3 49.4 3.20 2898 99.8 62350 12468 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.1 53.2 3.45 2892 97.8 62350 12821 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 109.9 53.1 3.44 2892 97.9 62350 12804 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 107.9 51.9 3.37 2891 95.7 62350 13078 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 96.0 45.6 2.96 2884 100.0 62350 11422 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 107.8 49.4 3.20 2882 98.7 62350 12607 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 107.8 49.4 3.20 2882 98.7 62350 12607 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 107.8 49.4 3.20 2882 98.7 62350 12607 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 111.9 49.3 3.19 2881 97.5 62350 12602 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 105.9 49.3 3.19 2881 97.5 62350 12602 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 110.7 49.6 3.21 2880 98.6 62350 12618 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.7 49.6 3.21 2880 98.6 62350 12618 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 106.7 48.9 3.17 2865 97.3 62350 12467 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 110.7 49.0 3.18 2863 100.0 62350 11464 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 94.9 45.1 2.92 2861 100.0 62350 11343 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 94.9 45.1 2.92 2861 100.0 62350 11343 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 107.3 52.9 3.43 2858 99.1 62350 12053 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 112.0 50.5 3.27 2858 100.0 58324 12348 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 110.5 52.0 3.37 2851 97.4 62350 12297 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 108.9 49.0 3.17 2842 97.0 62350 12201 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 101.5 44.8 2.90 2838 100.0 62350 11198 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 98.4 46.7 3.03 2837 100.0 62350 11465 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 100.5 47.0 3.05 2837 99.7 62350 11749 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 103.6 46.7 3.02 2835 98.4 62350 11888 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 104.2 47.2 3.06 2835 98.5 62350 11970 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 96.5 46.6 3.02 2835 99.8 62350 11672 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 99.7 46.6 3.02 2833 99.8 62350 11655 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 101.6 45.8 2.97 2829 100.0 62350 10832 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 94.1 45.1 2.92 2829 99.5 62350 11665 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 94.1 45.1 2.92 2829 99.5 62350 11665 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 47.6 3.08 2828 98.5 62350 11883 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.3 51.0 3.30 2827 95.1 62350 12213 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 99.2 44.5 2.88 2813 100.0 62350 11153 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 99.2 44.5 2.88 2813 100.0 62350 11150 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 96.4 44.6 2.89 2813 100.0 62350 11293 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 98.4 44.6 2.89 2810 100.0 62350 11124 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 102.0 46.2 2.99 2810 98.3 62350 11636 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 98.8 46.2 2.99 2810 98.3 62350 11636 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 102.0 46.2 2.99 2810 98.3 62350 11636 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 109.5 48.2 3.13 2806 96.7 62350 11725 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.3 48.2 3.13 2806 96.7 62350 11725 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 104.5 47.8 3.10 2801 99.1 62350 11466 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 104.1 45.2 2.93 2797 100.0 62350 10916 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 107.8 48.8 3.16 2792 99.8 62350 11186 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 99.6 45.8 2.97 2789 99.3 62350 11251 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 102.6 49.0 3.18 2788 98.3 62350 11350 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 109.8 49.2 3.19 2785 98.9 62350 11179 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 102.7 45.9 2.97 2779 97.4 62350 11312 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 101.9 44.6 2.89 2775 100.0 62350 10272 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 98.8 44.3 2.87 2774 99.5 62350 11059 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 112.0 50.7 3.29 2773 96.3 52996 12699 1.195
Bofors RP30 112.0 50.7 3.29 2773 96.3 52996 12699 1.195
IMR 4955 Enduron 106.4 46.9 3.04 2770 96.9 62350 11349 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 91.5 42.4 2.75 2770 100.0 62350 10749 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 53.5 3.47 2766 89.9 51767 13406 1.200
Vihtavuori N160 109.7 47.6 3.09 2763 97.3 62350 11106 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 91.9 42.1 2.73 2760 100.0 62350 10337 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 91.9 42.1 2.73 2760 100.0 62350 10337 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 93.9 42.1 2.73 2755 100.0 62350 10253 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 96.4 42.9 2.78 2752 99.1 62350 10851 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 96.4 42.9 2.78 2752 99.1 62350 10851 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 97.6 43.2 2.80 2752 99.9 62350 10650 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 93.4 42.9 2.78 2752 99.1 62350 10844 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 94.1 41.7 2.70 2751 100.0 62350 10263 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 101.6 49.0 3.18 2748 96.6 62350 11076 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 112.0 48.0 3.11 2741 99.6 58423 11089 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 112.0 50.2 3.25 2720 95.6 53907 11852 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 112.0 50.2 3.25 2720 95.6 53907 11852 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 91.4 40.5 2.62 2717 100.0 62350 9683 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron 110.5 49.5 3.21 2693 89.1 62350 10704 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
preacher":2phj89sw said:I can remember as a teenager there were lots of 6.5 "Eyetalians" ( surplus sporters) and many deer, and later (after Stock Law took affect) many hogs. I only saw the heavy roundnose in use. As the Italian is a bit less than the Swede, it apparently doesn't take a lot of speed for anything similar to be a good killer.