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 Post subject: Battle of the 200 grn Round Noses
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:18 pm 

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I managed to score some 200 grain Winchester Power Points. Since I have several 35 calibers I could use them in, I figured I'd test the round noses I have in water jugs, then maybe some dry magazine or newsprint if I can get enough. Hopefully I can put them in some jugs within the next week. I'll use my 358 Win around 2450-2500 fps.

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Hornady Interlock, Sierra Pro Hunter, Remington Core Lokt and Winchester Powerpoint

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:00 pm 
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Excellent. I've shot a couple of the Remington 200 gr SPCL bullets from my 35 Whelen into the jugs and they held together. Looking forward to seeing your results.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:14 pm 

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I’m looking forward to this test!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:43 pm 

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Should be a most interesting test. Looking forward to your resuts.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:46 pm 

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I'll be looking forward to seeing your test also. I have some factory Winchester 35 Rem that I haven't shot yet. Dan.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:08 pm 

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I was able to run out with some water jugs today and shoot them. I kinda screwed up a little and put the jugs at about 15 feet when I should have put them at 25 yards or so. The impact and hydro power of the first jug exploding not only put on a show, but it broke the board the jugs were on and also one of the plastic saw horses. I had to put others on the ground and lie prone. The plus side is I think it really put a lot more stress on these bullets that were in the neighborhood of 2450-2500 fps. This close I think definitely affected penetration, especially on the Sierra.

The first shot was the Sierra Pro Hunter. It penetrated 3 jugs and broke the 4th. The core and jacket were in the jug, though not together. Recovery weight was 158.6 grains combined. It penetrated the least but opened the widest. This is a very accurate bullet but appears to be the softest of them all.

The second was the Hornady Interlock. Pieces of lead were in the third jug, and the bullet was in the fourth. The core and jacket were together. After I took a picture, I tried to pull it apart and could not. Recovery weight was 143.8 grains. Add in the pieces and total recovery was 179.0.

Third was the Remington Core Lokt. It was also recovered in the fourth jug. I did not see any pieces of lead anywhere and it was in one piece. Recovery weight was 163.3 grains.

Fourth was the Winchester Powerpoint. Unfortunately did not recover this one and was out of jugs. It broke out the back of the fourth jug and put a small hole in the fifth jug. I looked around on the ground but could not find it so I'll have to get some more jugs ASAP and try and get one. I saw some very small lead pieces in the fourth jug, nothing like the Hornady so I've no doubt it was in one piece and did not appear to be any type of core separation.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:13 pm 

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AWESOME shooting. Thank you for taking the time to post them up. I’ve used the Remington a bunch and man, it’s been a good one.

Any of those are buck/bear stoppers.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:50 pm 

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Appears that any one will perform very well on deer and black bear at reasonable ranges. That does put a lot of stress on the bullet, and they appear to have held up quite well. The shock delivered at that close range must surely have been something to see. Now just imagine the shock on a moose or an elk at that close range.

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SJB358 wrote:
AWESOME shooting. Thank you for taking the time to post them up. I’ve used the Remington a bunch and man, it’s been a good one.

Any of those are buck/bear stoppers.

It's easy to see why the 35 caliber Core Lokts have such a good reputation. Years ago I bought a bunch of the SP version as well. I found one in the gravel behind the target one time and it was in one piece as well and very similar to the RN here. Very tough bullet.

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Appears that any one will perform very well on deer and black bear at reasonable ranges. That does put a lot of stress on the bullet, and they appear to have held up quite well. The shock delivered at that close range must surely have been something to see. Now just imagine the shock on a moose or an elk at that close range.

I thought so too. Even though the Sierra was in two pieces it was in the same jug. It was impressive...either the water or force of the board (albeit particle board) broke the middle shelf of the saw horse. Even thought it's plastic, it had to take a lot of force to break it. I just wish I could've found that Powerpoint. I believe it was the only one that broke the fifth jug.


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The Remington 200 gr SPCL is a great bullet.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:13 am 

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JD338.

They are a great bullet, about the only negative I would say is their accuracy isn't up to par with the Hornady or Sierra. But it's a hunting bullet and it's easily MOD (minute of deer). The sad thing is I don't think I've seen them for sale in at least 5 years, maybe more. I compared the SP I found in the gravel to the RN version, weight is 143.6 grains.

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That's a pretty darned good recovery right there as well!

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Thank you for sharing, although I shoot 200 ttsx in my 35 whelen

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:53 am 

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Interesting test and results. Have used the Rem CL in my 35 Rem and it's a proven performer. Nice to see how the others compare against it. Be looking for the Winchester results as it sounds good as well. Dan.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:59 am 

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Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
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I finally got enough jugs and some time to try and catch the Winchester Powerpoint. I shot it at around 15-20 feet and caught it in the fourth jug. It was all in one piece and the core was firmly attached to the jacket. Recovered weight was 157.9 grains. Two small lead pieces were with it (lost the smaller one after I weighed them) and with those was 162.7 grains.

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And all four compared together, from L to R: Sierra Pro Hunter, Hornady Interlock, Winchester Powerpoint and the Remington Core Lokt.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:30 am 

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That Winchester looked pretty darned good too. No flies on that!

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I should imagine that any of those bullets will do the job they were designed to do. Good work that will encourage many people.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:32 pm 

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Great representation on what these bullets would do on a bear raiding your camp in the middle of the night!
Would be nice to see these in the jugs at 100 yards as a comparison.

While I have using the Speer 220 gr FP all these years in my BLR in 358 Win, at a slower velocity in its 20" barrel (2209 fps), it sure has done its job in putting game in the freezer.

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