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tddeangelo

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May 18, 2011
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I picked up a police return Glock 23 (Gen 3) at a gunshow today.

I like it....I've usually not warmed up to Glocks, but the 23 fits me nicely.

Suggestions for ammo? I'm thinking of reloading for it, too.
 
Cartridge : .40 S&W (SAAMI)
Bullet : .400, 155, Hornady HP/XTP 40000
Useable Case Capaci: 11.036 grain H2O = 0.717 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.135 inch = 28.83 mm
Barrel Length : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 30624 psi, or 211 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

30 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Rottweil P806 110.0 11.2 0.73 1193 88.0 26979 6667 0.452
Alliant POWER PISTOL 98.8 8.0 0.52 1180 83.5 30625 6012 0.434 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.1 95.0 10.4 0.68 1167 71.8 30625 5852 0.433 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.7 95.0 10.4 0.68 1167 71.8 30625 5852 0.433 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P803 93.7 6.9 0.45 1166 100.0 30625 4938 0.447 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie P2636 Ws 100.1 6.8 0.44 1164 99.9 30625 4991 0.433 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE 100.4 6.6 0.43 1157 98.3 30625 5259 0.444 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37 100.4 7.9 0.51 1156 92.2 30625 5400 0.437 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350 103.9 7.7 0.50 1151 92.5 30625 5265 0.434 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 90 110.0 7.7 0.50 1143 92.5 27942 5457 0.448
Somchem MP200 91.4 6.8 0.44 1139 97.3 30625 5024 0.444 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO 110.0 7.0 0.45 1134 95.0 28556 5324 0.460
Vihtavuori N330 93.1 6.2 0.40 1131 100.0 30625 4430 0.441 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.2 102.5 11.2 0.72 1130 64.0 30625 5363 0.436 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9 102.5 11.2 0.72 1130 64.0 30625 5363 0.436 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MS200 96.6 6.4 0.42 1126 98.9 30625 4758 0.446 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal 92.0 6.0 0.39 1125 100.0 30625 4528 0.452 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340 96.6 6.5 0.42 1124 98.3 30625 4721 0.443 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 515 93.7 6.2 0.40 1108 99.9 30625 4353 0.445 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 509 90.5 6.0 0.39 1102 100.0 30625 4149 0.447 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1250 97.2 5.9 0.38 1102 100.0 30625 4177 0.444 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38 110.0 9.1 0.59 1086 73.2 26204 5099 0.468
NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28 110.0 6.0 0.39 1085 100.0 29126 4113 0.450
Rottweil J706 110.0 6.7 0.43 1082 99.3 22523 5210 0.525
Alliant GREEN DOT 93.4 5.3 0.34 1080 100.0 30625 3857 0.457 ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 2/Yellow/32 110.0 5.9 0.38 1073 99.8 27260 4209 0.468
Accurate Nitro 100 90.2 4.8 0.31 1073 100.0 30625 3777 0.451 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 100 110.0 7.7 0.50 1065 80.9 25818 4808 0.474
Alliant RED DOT 94.3 4.8 0.31 1057 100.0 30625 3573 0.460 ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 3/Green/36 110.0 6.1 0.40 1054 99.0 24586 4300 0.488
Alliant 2400 110.0 10.6 0.69 1038 55.9 23291 4896 0.494
ADI AS 30 91.3 4.8 0.31 1037 100.0 30625 3355 0.463 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 110.0 9.1 0.59 1033 65.4 23302 4837 0.500
Rottweil P805 97.4 4.9 0.32 1024 100.0 30625 3238 0.470 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R1 95.2 4.9 0.32 1023 100.0 30625 3234 0.470 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 110.0 11.4 0.74 1018 54.3 22685 4795 0.498
Lovex D063 110.0 11.7 0.76 1006 46.1 26909 4050 0.473
Vihtavuori N105 110.0 8.8 0.57 996 68.3 19962 4791 0.523
Norma R123 110.0 11.2 0.73 996 61.4 17550 5646 0.546
Accurate 4100 110.0 11.6 0.75 971 49.0 21995 4200 0.511
Lovex S040 110.0 10.0 0.65 964 52.9 21381 4089 0.517
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 110.0 5.6 0.36 961 100.0 24749 2907 0.514
PB Clermont PCL 512 110.0 10.7 0.69 936 50.3 18337 4201 0.548
Lovex D060 110.0 10.5 0.68 868 37.6 18816 3302 0.562
Accurate 5744 110.0 10.5 0.68 868 37.6 18816 3302 0.562
Rottweil R910 110.0 10.3 0.67 865 41.0 17392 3268 0.572
Hodgdon H110 110.0 12.0 0.78 857 38.4 16000 3592 0.588
ADI AR 2205 110.0 10.6 0.69 856 43.3 17641 3229 0.571
Winchester 296 110.0 12.0 0.78 852 34.5 16184 3523 0.586
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 110.0 11.6 0.75 840 36.9 16181 3321 0.589
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 110.0 11.2 0.73 804 34.5 14507 3014 0.617
Somchem S265 110.0 10.3 0.67 786 39.2 13858 2975 0.648
Accurate 1680 110.0 12.0 0.78 775 27.1 16134 2419 0.608
Vihtavuori N110 110.0 9.5 0.61 771 38.2 12470 2836 0.657
IMR 4227 110.0 10.2 0.66 767 31.9 14016 2463 0.635
Hodgdon H4227 110.0 10.2 0.66 743 30.1 13134 2321 0.654
Lovex S053 110.0 10.0 0.65 724 31.5 11489 2362 0.687
IMR TrailBoss 110.0 3.8 0.24 712 98.8 10750 2187 0.750
ADI AS 25 BP 110.0 3.8 0.24 712 98.8 10750 2187 0.750
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 110.0 10.8 0.70 695 24.4 12025 1943 0.686
Hodgdon H4198 110.0 10.5 0.68 690 24.7 11691 1930 0.693
IMR 4198 110.0 10.0 0.65 662 24.4 10298 1817 0.730
Accurate 2200 110.0 11.4 0.74 653 20.4 11066 1721 0.725
ADI BM2 110.0 11.9 0.77 642 19.4 10760 1663 0.735
ADI AR 2207 110.0 10.5 0.68 640 22.5 9588 1767 0.756
Alliant Reloder- 7 110.0 10.8 0.70 635 21.9 9539 1760 0.764
Vihtavuori N120 110.0 10.2 0.66 633 23.7 9301 1707 0.763
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 110.0 11.5 0.74 630 18.8 10070 1616 0.753
Ramshot X-Terminator 110.0 12.0 0.78 625 18.2 10182 1582 0.753
ADI AR 2219 110.0 11.6 0.75 619 17.9 10158 1520 0.756
ADI AR 2210 110.0 11.6 0.75 614 18.0 9895 1518 0.764
Kazan Sunar 308W 110.0 10.9 0.71 608 20.3 9087 1553 0.788
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 110.0 12.0 0.78 607 17.1 9682 1482 0.771
SNPE Vectan SP 10 110.0 12.0 0.77 607 17.1 9660 1483 0.772
Hodgdon H335 110.0 12.2 0.79 604 16.7 9874 1444 0.769
Hodgdon Benchmark 110.0 11.0 0.71 586 17.7 8520 1404 0.812
ADI AR 2206 110.0 11.1 0.72 581 17.4 8503 1359 0.816
Alliant Reloder-12 110.0 11.4 0.74 581 17.3 8657 1358 0.812
Hodgdon H322 110.0 10.9 0.70 580 16.9 8536 1349 0.814
Vihtavuori N130 110.0 10.5 0.68 578 19.1 8063 1397 0.832
Norma 200 110.0 11.6 0.75 576 16.7 8283 1442 0.818
Ramshot TAC 110.0 12.0 0.78 576 15.2 8846 1307 0.806
Alliant Reloder-10x 110.0 10.6 0.68 571 17.4 7860 1373 0.837
Lovex S060 110.0 10.9 0.71 569 16.6 8174 1306 0.829
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 110.0 11.4 0.74 562 16.1 8071 1288 0.834
Vihtavuori N530 110.0 11.3 0.73 561 14.9 8345 1249 0.827
IMR 8208 XBR 110.0 11.2 0.73 561 15.4 8063 1253 0.836
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 110.0 11.1 0.72 560 15.7 8206 1237 0.833
PB Clermont PCL 507 110.0 11.7 0.76 559 14.7 8202 1237 0.832
Winchester 748 110.0 12.0 0.78 555 13.8 8541 1185 0.825
Vihtavuori N133 110.0 10.2 0.66 549 17.6 7413 1221 0.868
Somchem S321 110.0 12.0 0.78 548 13.9 8124 1192 0.840
SNPE Vectan SP 9 110.0 11.6 0.75 536 13.6 7577 1126 0.864
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 110.0 10.9 0.71 535 14.8 7443 1131 0.870
Alliant AR-Comp 110.0 10.8 0.70 532 14.8 7340 1119 0.875
Somchem S341 110.0 12.0 0.78 532 13.1 7942 1069 0.860
Accurate 2015 110.0 10.8 0.70 531 15.1 7131 1159 0.881
Lovex D073.4 110.0 12.0 0.78 531 13.2 8062 1094 0.861
Accurate 2230 110.0 12.0 0.78 531 13.2 8062 1094 0.861
ADI AR 2206H 110.0 11.2 0.73 530 13.3 7259 1120 0.876
Hodgdon H4895 110.0 11.2 0.73 530 13.3 7253 1119 0.876
ADI AR 2208 110.0 10.9 0.70 528 14.0 7173 1103 0.883
Hodgdon VARGET 110.0 10.8 0.70 526 14.0 7115 1096 0.886
PB Clermont PCL 516 110.0 11.9 0.77 525 12.5 7623 1054 0.879
Somchem S335 110.0 10.9 0.71 523 15.2 6854 1123 0.899
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 110.0 11.3 0.73 522 12.8 7548 1025 0.874
Norma 202 110.0 11.0 0.71 522 13.9 6984 1094 0.893
IMR 4320 110.0 11.0 0.71 521 13.3 7231 1043 0.885
Vihtavuori N140 110.0 11.0 0.71 519 14.4 6963 1066 0.898
Hodgdon BL-C2 110.0 12.2 0.79 518 12.1 7516 1038 0.886
Vihtavuori N540 110.0 11.3 0.73 515 13.8 6853 1077 0.903
Norma 201 110.0 11.4 0.74 510 12.6 6914 1052 0.910
IMR 4064 110.0 10.6 0.68 507 13.2 6653 1006 0.914
IMR 3031 110.0 10.5 0.68 506 13.1 6536 1007 0.918
Lovex D073.5 110.0 12.0 0.78 505 12.0 7195 995 0.904
Accurate 2460 110.0 12.0 0.78 505 12.0 7195 995 0.904
IMR 4895 110.0 11.2 0.73 504 11.9 6667 997 0.924
Alliant Reloder-15 110.0 11.2 0.73 500 11.8 6605 974 0.930
Raufoss RA11 110.0 11.2 0.73 500 11.8 6605 974 0.930
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 110.0 11.2 0.73 500 11.8 6605 974 0.930
SNPE Vectan SP 7 110.0 12.0 0.78 499 11.2 7230 939 0.907
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 110.0 11.1 0.72 497 12.2 6775 935 0.918
Norma 203B 110.0 11.2 0.73 495 11.7 6486 957 0.938
Ramshot BigGame 110.0 11.6 0.75 493 11.4 6598 931 0.937
SNPE Vectan SP 11 110.0 11.6 0.75 492 11.4 6576 926 0.938
Lovex S062 110.0 10.9 0.71 483 11.9 6102 922 0.965
Rottweil R902 110.0 10.8 0.70 479 11.9 5961 921 0.973
Rottweil R901 110.0 10.6 0.69 477 12.2 5608 970 0.986
IMR 4007 SSC 110.0 11.3 0.74 476 10.6 6345 863 0.957
Lovex D073.6 110.0 11.5 0.75 475 10.9 6299 863 0.960
Accurate 2520 110.0 11.5 0.75 475 10.9 6299 863 0.960
Hodgdon H380 110.0 11.4 0.74 472 10.4 6226 848 0.965
Accurate 2700 110.0 11.6 0.75 470 10.8 6349 821 0.964
Alliant Reloder-17 110.0 11.7 0.76 467 9.8 6234 814 0.968
Winchester 760 110.0 11.8 0.77 467 9.4 6291 799 0.965
Hodgdon H414 110.0 11.8 0.77 467 9.4 6291 799 0.965
IMR 4350 110.0 11.1 0.72 466 10.6 5969 812 0.984
Vihtavuori N135 110.0 10.1 0.66 464 12.3 5544 839 0.995
Rottweil R907 110.0 11.0 0.71 463 10.4 5882 817 0.988
Somchem S355 110.0 10.9 0.71 463 10.8 5713 833 0.998
Hodgdon H4350 110.0 10.9 0.71 458 10.4 5732 784 1.002
Vihtavuori N550 110.0 11.4 0.74 454 9.6 5681 783 1.005
Norma 204 110.0 11.6 0.75 453 9.2 6012 748 0.990
Lovex S065 110.0 10.9 0.71 450 10.2 5489 778 1.019
Vihtavuori N150 110.0 10.6 0.68 450 11.2 5417 782 1.030
Ramshot Hunter 110.0 11.6 0.75 446 9.1 5610 737 1.015
Norma 203 old 110.0 11.3 0.73 445 9.5 5595 752 1.016
Norma URP 110.0 11.1 0.72 442 9.4 5443 732 1.027
Rottweil R904 110.0 11.0 0.71 442 9.3 5580 713 1.021
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 110.0 11.1 0.72 442 9.4 5440 731 1.027
Raufoss RA4 110.0 11.2 0.73 440 9.0 5578 710 1.022
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 110.0 11.2 0.73 440 9.0 5578 710 1.022
ADI AR 2209 110.0 11.1 0.72 437 8.8 5518 695 1.028
Rottweil R903 110.0 11.1 0.72 436 9.3 5349 714 1.037
Lovex S070 110.0 11.1 0.72 435 9.1 5262 709 1.042
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 110.0 11.4 0.74 434 8.8 5478 687 1.033
Alliant Reloder-19 110.0 11.2 0.73 433 8.7 5296 691 1.042
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 10.8 0.70 430 9.5 5237 674 1.053
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 110.0 11.2 0.73 429 8.6 5223 676 1.050
Somchem S361 110.0 11.9 0.77 427 8.5 5494 652 1.040
Hodgdon H4831 SC 110.0 11.3 0.73 418 8.0 5252 621 1.061
Somchem S365 110.0 11.1 0.72 415 8.4 4965 625 1.080
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 10.7 0.70 412 8.6 4856 610 1.091
ADI AR 2213 110.0 11.3 0.73 410 7.4 5111 595 1.084
Winchester Supreme 780 110.0 11.8 0.76 410 7.8 5335 590 1.077
IMR 4831 110.0 10.7 0.69 408 8.4 4701 611 1.103
Accurate 2495 110.0 10.6 0.69 408 8.5 4653 640 1.113
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 10.9 0.70 405 7.8 4835 584 1.098
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 11.4 0.74 405 7.5 4881 583 1.105
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 11.5 0.74 404 7.0 5073 561 1.091
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 11.4 0.74 398 6.8 4753 558 1.114
Somchem S385 110.0 11.3 0.73 397 7.5 4701 562 1.124
Accurate 4064 110.0 10.5 0.68 397 8.3 4339 600 1.149
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 11.3 0.73 396 7.0 4656 558 1.126
Raufoss RA15 110.0 11.3 0.73 396 7.0 4656 558 1.126
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 11.3 0.73 396 7.0 4656 558 1.126
Norma MRP 110.0 11.7 0.76 394 6.7 4733 548 1.123
Rottweil R905 110.0 11.1 0.72 389 6.9 4609 527 1.137
Winchester WXR 110.0 11.1 0.72 389 6.9 4442 539 1.150
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 11.1 0.72 388 7.6 4544 526 1.138
IMR 7828 110.0 10.9 0.70 387 6.8 4536 516 1.145
Accurate 4350 110.0 10.7 0.69 381 7.0 4377 516 1.164
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 11.9 0.77 378 5.9 4550 484 1.166
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 11.1 0.72 376 6.7 4246 495 1.183
ADI AP 2214 110.0 11.6 0.75 374 6.2 4630 465 1.159
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 11.1 0.72 360 6.1 4197 431 1.208
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 12.0 0.78 357 5.4 4444 419 1.206
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 11.9 0.77 357 5.4 4421 418 1.208
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 11.9 0.77 356 5.4 4409 416 1.210
Norma MRP 2 110.0 11.2 0.73 348 5.4 3867 408 1.263
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 11.3 0.73 344 5.5 3796 396 1.281
Lovex D100 110.0 12.0 0.78 340 5.0 4081 369 1.262
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 11.9 0.77 339 4.7 4015 369 1.263
Lovex S071 110.0 10.6 0.69 338 5.9 3659 386 1.309
Accurate 3100 110.0 10.6 0.69 338 5.9 3659 386 1.309
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 11.1 0.72 338 5.3 3710 379 1.297
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 11.8 0.76 337 4.5 3866 367 1.282
Alliant Reloder 33 110.0 12.3 0.80 329 4.3 3843 347 1.302
ADI AR 2218 110.0 11.9 0.77 327 4.2 3847 335 1.305
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 11.4 0.74 320 4.2 3581 325 1.358
Hodgdon H870 110.0 11.6 0.75 317 4.3 3483 321 1.380
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 11.9 0.77 314 4.2 3538 310 1.363
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 10.9 0.71 313 3.9 3467 280 1.379
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 11.4 0.74 305 4.3 3327 293 1.396
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 10.9 0.71 304 3.9 3296 268 1.421
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 11.4 0.74 300 4.1 3266 280 1.444
Accurate 8700 110.0 11.5 0.74 297 4.0 3286 267 1.450
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 12.0 0.78 288 3.5 3226 247 1.471
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0 11.8 0.77 287 3.2 3141 249 1.468
Alliant Reloder-50 110.0 12.1 0.78 287 3.2 3194 247 1.467
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 10.9 0.71 250 2.3 2748 153 1.674
 
I had a 23, one of my sons has it now. It was a great gun and shot well. Be careful about the reloading with fired brass unless it has an aftermarket tube.

Long
 
The only Glock I care for is the one people generally hate the most....the G36...its my CCW and it fills that role well....it is darn near as accurate as my Baer 1911, it has never failed to fire, feed, or function in any way...and its very lightweight, easy to carry and conceal.

If I had to complain about it I guess it would be recoil...I carry 230 grain +P ammo (Hornady TAP) and it bucks a little when you shoot it, but I tend to hit where I'm aiming so...nothing really to complain about.


I was a hard sell on Glock too...but after getting the G36 and taking the time to get used to it (after carrying a 1911 for about 14 years)...you won't find anything else on me for a CCW.
 
Tom, I never have owned a Glock but I do have a Charter Arms Pit Bull .40 S&W, 5-shot. I am shooting the Hornady Critical Duty .40 S&W 175 grain Flexlock which has the plastic plug in the hollow tip @1025 FPS, to assure penetration through clothing. These rounds cost about $.80/each and at that rate, I will wait to reload them as I do not have a turret press to do so rapidly. This gun is one of my three CCW revolvers, plus one very small .380 auto. The .40 S&W is serious business compared to a 9mm.
 
Just ordered 3 mags from Natchez. $20/ea if you order at least 2. $70 shipped to my door for 3 Glock factory 13-rd mags. Not bad.
 
Two Glock's at this house.
Mine = Glock 23, 40 cal. three full capacity mags
Hers = Glock 27, 40 cal. two full capacity mags.

I need to start loading for the two Glocks as I retire my two 357's,
a Colt Trooper", 6' Barrel (Blue and like new),
a S&W Model 66 (Stainless), 4" barrel
Well not COMPLETELY retire them just don't use them as much now.

There is nothing wrong with having a good variety with a lot of ammo when the SHTF
and of course, just for fun.
 
A Glock 23 is what I want next. I currently have the 21 & 30, with latter being my ccw.
 
I currently only have one in the stable, G19. I had a G21 for a while and a G20 Longslide, but sold them a few years back.

Next on the list is a G30 for CCW for two legged varmints. I will CCW the 19 as a woods carry gun.
 
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