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 Post subject: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:53 am 

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Myself and the 300 H & H

i was asked by my son for my recommendation of a 300 and I recommended the 300 H & H

He laughed and said how did I know you would say that. He said he was thinking more along the lines of a 300 WSM and ask me if I was aware that the 300WSM, 300WIn, 300WBY, and 300-378 Weatherby all delivered better ballistics.

I said "never heard of them" and we had a good laugh and conversation.

But all joking aside I am curious as to what your favorite 300 is. I think if I was still in the market for one and did not get the H and H I might get the 300WSM


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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:03 am 

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I've shot all of these at one time or another. All good cartridges that'll do precisely what they were created to do. Favourites are like pies, we all have a favourite. I like two--hot or cold. Same with 300s, depends on which day of the week it is.

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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:24 am 

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Man I would have to agree you are a relic my dear! Of course I am only teasing you!?

David

I think I too would go with the 300 WSM. My son sure likes his. I don't really have any urge to get any 300 of any kind as I have a 30-06! What the heck would I do with the darn thing!!

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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:38 am 

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The only .30-cal I have, want, or need has "06" for a last name. Unless for some reason I need to start taking shots beyond 400 yards (highly doubtful), I don't have much use for one, especially east of the Mississippi. I have a Mauser and a Mannlicher, both in .30-06, and they do just fine for me.


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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:04 pm 

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April. I have used both the 300win and the 300wsm and did not see much difference in either of them. If had to pick 1-300 it would be the 300 H&H just because of the cool factor and its age :wink:!

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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:49 pm 

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.300 Wby

A .300 WSM has the same powder capacity as the .300 H&H. So,it has the same ballistics as the H&H,but in a short action.

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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:11 pm 

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I have owned 2 different 300 magnums over the years and still own 1; the WSM.
Did not care for the Win Mag at all. The WSM does the same more efficiently with less felt recoil. And in my rifles, the WSM is the more accurate. It is also, shorter, lighter, and handles far better! A proven performer on game with the factory 180 Power Point load and handloaded 180 AccuBonds. Both sub-MOA

I have shot both the H&H and the Wby. I liked the H&H, and did not like the Wby at all; sharpest recoiling rifle I have ever shot! (Much preferred shooting the 340 Wby, but that is another story and not part of this thread)

I have never shot the 300-378 Wby and do not feel the need to do so!


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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:27 pm 

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I guess I must like the .300 Win. mag. (y) I have four. :shock: The Ruger #1B and #1S and a Winchester M70 push feeder are all sub MOA with the loads I've tried. The last Ruger #1S is 200th year of American liberty model and I've not gotten around to scoping or shooting it. Guess I ought to do something about that one of these days. :roll: I don't find recoil to be all that bad in the ones I have shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:07 pm 
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Even though I don't own one anymore I had a Browning in 300WM for about 10 years and it really did nothing
that I couldn't do with a 30/06 if I got 50 yds closer? So got sick of the recoil, 10 lb gun to sack around the hills. But when you talk guns at the lodge and 30/06 comes up everyone starts yawning and loose interest; but
You pull out that big tapered belted 300 H&H case and the room comes to life!
The romance of that H&H and how it feeds in an old pre64 Winchester( not those nasty Portugal ones either!) is like a eel, covered in ky jelly! :lol: And that is something anyone,can appreaciate!
Wonderful round and if I had to lug one it would be the H&H just for raw cool factor!
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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:42 pm 

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"Better ballistics"........

I was guilty of that same thing many years ago when young and stupid. Now, I'm no longer young. Read up on all the ammo at the time and the rifles and how great all the new stuff was. Some 30 years later there is not all that much difference between all of them. Not really...............

For me I happen to really like both the 300 wm and 300 wby over the short 300's. The reason is they can throw a bigger bullet just a little better. Not enough to really make that much difference but, I need to have something to like about them. :>)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:42 pm 

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300 Weatherby here, had a 300 Win, WSM. I really like the 300 Weatherby.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:02 pm 

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300 weatherby for me, sort off.

I also agree with Earle and April. A friend of mine has an H & H and I do want one, and the 300 is still in the safe but has been replaced in the field with the 270 Weatherby. I will probably sell the 300 Weatherby and buy a 300 H & H.

Charles, speaking of Weatherby's do you still have that 340 ?


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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:41 pm 

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I really like the .300WSM.

Easy to shoot, easy to load for, efficient for the ballistics it yields...and I've had nothing but great results on critters.

I do like the .300 H&H... an well worn M70 and that long tapered case makes for a very smooth feeding rifle.


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 Post subject: Re: A Relic
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:23 pm 
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Had a 300Bee and kicked so hard it would take me several seconds for my eyes to refocus so I sold it to Fotis who got it for a friend. My .338 Win with heavier bullets doesn't kick as bad as that 300Bee did.
My present .30 is a 30-06 and wonder why I ever looked at anything bigger.
I have looked at the 308 Norma and been reading about the New 300 Norma.
But you failed to mention the .30 Nosler.
So what does he plan on using it for?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:46 pm 

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Always thought that when I need or want a heavier bullet than the 180 in the 300, I would rather step up to the 210 gr in the 338 Win Mag. Just plain works!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:26 pm 

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All good choices. Love my 300WM, think I’m going to like the 300WSM my son is getting.
Would not hesitate to own s 300H&H 0r the 300bee


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All good choices. Love my 300WM, think I’m going to like the 300WSM my son is getting.
Would not hesitate to own a 300H&H 0r the 300bee


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:57 pm 

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Is they anything better that a Model 70 pre-war 300 H&H Mag. ?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:18 am 
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(TWO) Winchester pre 64 Model 70's in 300 H&H's ?????? :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:59 am 

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Or a original H&H bolt rifle in .300 H&H.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:31 am 

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hunternyny wrote:
300 weatherby for me, sort off.

I also agree with Earle and April. A friend of mine has an H & H and I do want one, and the 300 is still in the safe but has been replaced in the field with the 270 Weatherby. I will probably sell the 300 Weatherby and buy a 300 H & H.

Charles, speaking of Weatherby's do you still have that 340 ?



Are you kidding??????? :lol:

You better believe it! That rifle will never leave me. Too much history for one and a fantastic shooter too.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:47 am 

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elkhunternm wrote:
Or a original H&H bolt rifle in .300 H&H.



THIS !!!!!!!!!

Charles, I could not imagine your ever getting rid of that 340 or the 9.3 x 64. I heard the beautiful stories that go with those rifles.

I wish you did not live so far from San Antonio.

Anyway, it pleases this old gals heart to see that there are a few gents here who still like the old 300 H & H

David, you are correct and it is no joke Not as old as the H & H but there are days I feel like it. Has to quit sailing, had to quit hunting, had to quit being a "cougar" ( that one is for you Charles lol ), so unfortunately David, I can not even argue your point. )-:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:37 am 

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April, I hope that you can still go on the odd hunt and take photographs. I have really noticed that just being with the group has been a blessing to me.
Last hunt I even pulled KB for the first time and guys didn't mind my Kraft Dinner and Chili :shock:.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:01 am 

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I would have to say the .300 Winchester Magnum. I wanted one for years but had no need for it, then I started going elk hunting so I bought one. Original intent was to just use it for the west but it fit so good and I shot it so good, that it became my full time rifle for nearly 15 years. I worked with that rifle for about 3 years before I was satisfied, my hunting loads of 165 gr. bullets shot consistently .5 and under. My 180 elk loads printed around .600".
I made my longest ever shots with that rifle on elk and white tail. A lot of memories.
It was a victim of muzzle blast and heavy weight so it now stands in a corner of the safe, unshot for a decade.
I find the .300 WSM's very interesting, short action, lighter, faster handling rifles. If I didn't like the old .300 WM so much I might try one sometime.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm 

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I had a 300 Win Browning A Bolt that kicked like 2 mules, gave it to my brother.

Then I bought a 300 Bee that was much more pleasant to shoot from a recoil standpoint.
Guess it was a stock design/fit issue between the two of them.
Fella offered me a couple hundred more than I had in it so off it went.

Last year I worked up a load for my brother in a Rem 700 in 300 Win and it wasn't alot of fun off the bags.

So, all that being said, my favorite 300 is none of them.
I don't see alot of elk or moose hunts in my future living here in Texas.

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