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 Post subject: Re: Some muzzle brakes I made up
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:27 am 

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Looking forward to replacing the OPS on the XP-100! Thanks for your help Nathan!!

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 Post subject: Re: Some muzzle brakes I made up
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:57 am 
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Nathen,

Those brakes look nice.
Are you going to offer any slim line style brakes that match the barrel contour?
I am getting a Williams brake on my 338 RUM and it will match the barrel contour. It looks very similar to your ported brake but has several more but smaller holes in the top and the shark gills on the side, nothing on the bottom. The expectation is 65% recoil reduction.


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 Post subject: Re: Some muzzle brakes I made up
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:24 am 

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I've had a few people ask about it but my CNC guy is swamped right now and will probably be that way for a bit. If I did them I would do it out of .750 material. The ports would have to be undersized to allow for turning down. The problem with the smaller diameter brakes is they are less effective. The gases have less of a wall to push against because the ports are smaller.


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:48 am 
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Nathan,

That make perfect sense to me.
I am to a point with my 338 RUM that I am getting tired of getting kicked with 55 ft lbs of recoil. Even a modest reduction in recoil would be appreciated. Williams tells me that with an 800 yd bullet flight of just over 1.1 seconds, I may be able to spot my own hits. That would be cool and I would consider it a bonus if it worked out.

I may be interested in one of your brakes down the road. Right now all my rifles are cream puffs, at least when compared to the recoil of the 338 RUM. :grin:

BTW, nice web site you have.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:02 pm 

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Funny thing is you probably shoot the 338RUM the most? There is a need to tame those wicked beast rifles rifles it seems.


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:12 pm 
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IdahoCTD wrote:
Funny thing is you probably shoot the 338RUM the most? There is a need to tame those wicked beast rifles rifles it seems.


Nathan,

You are correct, I just love the rifle and cartridge. The 200-210 gr loads at 3200 fps are nothing but it starts go get interesting with the 250 gr loads at 3000 fps off the bench. In the field, you never notice the recoil.

The 280 AI pushes the 140 gr at 3200 fps and the 160 gr at 3000 fps. Recoil is nothing but a brake would bring it down to a love tap and I could see being able to spot your own hits at 800 yds+.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:46 pm 

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IdahoCTD wrote:
Funny thing is you probably shoot the 338RUM the most? There is a need to tame those wicked beast rifles rifles it seems.


Nathan,

You are correct, I just love the rifle and cartridge. The 200-210 gr loads at 3200 fps are nothing but it starts go get interesting with the 250 gr loads at 3000 fps off the bench. In the field, you never notice the recoil.

The 280 AI pushes the 140 gr at 3200 fps and the 160 gr at 3000 fps. Recoil is nothing but a brake would bring it down to a love tap and I could see being able to spot your own hits at 800 yds+.

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Nathan,

That's a nice site you got. Hopefully things take off for you.

Jim,

I agree my 280AI is an absolute joy to shoot without a brake. It's something you can shoot all day long and not worry about, even with 160's or 175's. I have yet to get a good weight on it but I'm thinking it comes in at about 11-11.5 with scope and ammo.


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 Post subject: Re: Some muzzle brakes I made up
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:33 am 

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Just to update this a bit.....I did some .750" diameter brakes for the smaller caliber sporters. I would still do the .875" brakes for the bigger calibers though.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:07 am 
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Good to know. I can hook you up with a guy that just opened up shop here in Cheyenne.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:53 pm 

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G'Day Fella's,

Long time no chat!
I forgot my User name etc.....

I'll try and post an image of the muzzle brake, I designed and machined up for my Rem 700 MLR .338 Lap Mag. You can just see it attached to the .338LM rifle, in the foreground!
This 4 port muzzle brake, basically neutralised recoil on this rifle! No easy task, when you are burning 98grs of ADI AR-2217 (H-1000) behind a 250 grn bullet at just over 3000fps!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:56 pm 

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G'Day again,

Here's an image of the 3 port brake for the .338LM and 2 of the old Remington factory brakes.
You can also see the muzzle of this .338LM barrel and the way I have re-crowned it, without shortening the thread.
Click on this image, for a larger view of this work!
I just parted off the factory brakes, then slowly removed metal off the outside of the barrel, without damaging the original factory muzzle thread (5/8"UNEF).
This 3 port brake isn't as effective as the 4 port brake on this particular chambered rifle (.338Lapua Mag) but should be fine on a .300 Win Mag and similar powder capacity cartridges!

Doh!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:00 pm 
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Great looking brake. I have ownly owned one and I put it on a TC Contender barrel to hold the muzzel down when I would touch off the 7-30 waters cartridge it was chambered for it wasn't ported like yours but had round holes all the way around. The muzzel blast would ruin your nerves after about 10 rounds and cause me to flinch. I was wearing ear plugs and muffs but blast was still disturbing.
Is there any way to direct the noise away from the shooter?


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 Post subject: Re: Some muzzle brakes I made up
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:34 pm 

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Brakes with ports angled forward are quieter but not as effective.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:51 am 

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G'Day Fella's,

Truck Driver, I'm currently working on a simple design to try and subdue the muzzle blast that the shooter hears!
Unfortunately, I'm also working on many other projects and 3 jobs at present, so I may get back to that M/brake project by Christmas?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:38 am 
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Thanks Homer I would be interested in one that I can hunt with and not have to wear hearing protection. I have a bad case of Tentinitist and constant ring in my ears from my military days in the 70s.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:53 pm 

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I just put one of Nathans three port 1" breaks on my STW. WOW is all I can say. Kicks about like my 243 with 55gr bt! My wife will be shooting this rifle with some 160AB this spring for bears. Very happy with the results and quality.

Thanks again Nathan!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:04 pm 
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Nice brakes and workmanship! Good luck selling them.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:34 pm 

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I would like to get one of Nathans 4 ports for my 7 mag here real soon myself.

Great looking and effective brake, not to mention half the cost of a Holland QD!!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:04 pm 

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You'll like them. They are loud but a set of ear plugs fixes that.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:32 pm 

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I have a friend who just got a 340 WBY and I told him about your brakes as well so hopefully can get a couple from you here soon.

I saw the one on Jakes STW and it looks great to me. Havent got a chance to shoot it yet but Jake says it kicks like a 243 with varmint bullets. And thats only the 3 Port.

Loud is not a problem. Im putting a brake on a rifle to reduce recoil, thats the whole intent and purpose of having a brake anyway I thought. For someone to think there not doing there ears any harm just because they dont have a brake when the rifle is being fired are foolish.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:53 pm 

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For someone to think there not doing there ears any harm just because they dont have a brake when the rifle is being fired are foolish.


So true.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:59 am 

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G'Day Fella's,

I recommend both Ear Plugs and Quality Ear Muffs, when shooting any rifle that has a muzzle brake fitted!

Hope that helps

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:40 am 

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Nathan, sent you a PM.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:36 am 

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Just a little update on Nathans brakes.

Friend of mine had the 4 port installed on his 340 WBY accumark and said it feels like about a 270. He is shooting 225g ABs. He can spot his own shots if the range is 600 or further he was telling me through the 20x leupold.

I also ordered a 4 port for my 7mm-300 win mag. With the weight of the rifle (13-13.5 lbs) and 160g class bullets at 3300, l'll have little trouble spotting my own shots through the 20x leupold im thinking.

Craftsmanship on both brakes was top notch and the price cant be beat!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:45 am 
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Nathan, do you have any brakes in stock? Sent you a PM. Thanks.


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