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 Post subject: .338 wm 225 gr etip
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:35 pm 

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Anyone have experience loading this bullet in .338 wm? Iv searched all over the internet and on this site and haven't been able to find anything.

With a b.c of .611 this should be the ideal mono bullet for a .338 wm, if it can be driven to 2650-2700 it should be above 2000 fps at 500 yards. Lots of info on the 200gr etip but I don't see a point in using it when the 225 has it beat in every category including down range expansion ability. The 210 and 225 gr ttsx fall way behind as well.


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 Post subject: Re: .338 wm 225 gr etip
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:28 pm 

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Some suggestions.

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Cartridge          : .338 Win Mag.
Bullet             : .338, 225, Nosler E-Tip 59372
Useable Case Capaci: 72.288 grain H2O = 4.694 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61500 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 109.4     78.4     5.08    2953   100.0    61500   10951   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          110.0     76.5     4.96    2916    99.1    61500   10965   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    111.6     76.0     4.92    2894    96.2    61500   11031   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   99.7     69.7     4.52    2891   100.0    61500    9754   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  105.9     75.2     4.87    2890    99.4    61500   10609   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    111.9     79.3     5.14    2883    94.6    61500   11030   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       112.0     75.4     4.89    2881    98.1    61500   10707   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       112.0     75.4     4.89    2881    98.1    61500   10707   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 112.0     75.4     4.89    2881    98.1    61500   10707   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            98.8     69.0     4.47    2871   100.0    61500    9696   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  98.8     69.0     4.47    2871   100.0    61500    9696   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       109.5     75.0     4.86    2865    96.5    61500   10616   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        110.3     74.3     4.81    2847    96.3    61500   10502   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 105.7     68.6     4.45    2847   100.0    61500    9565   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  102.4     71.5     4.63    2844   100.0    61500    9800   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       106.0     70.2     4.55    2843   100.0    61500    9249   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.9     80.5     5.21    2841    98.3    61500   10186   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                104.4     71.8     4.65    2839    99.4    61500   10011   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                100.2     71.1     4.61    2837    99.6    61500    9951   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     103.5     71.2     4.62    2835    99.6    61500    9937   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 108.1     72.0     4.67    2831    97.9    61500   10149   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      97.7     68.9     4.46    2828    99.1    61500    9915   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        97.7     68.9     4.46    2828    99.1    61500    9915   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        107.2     71.0     4.60    2825    97.7    61500   10053   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         108.8     72.5     4.70    2824    97.8    61500   10071   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  112.0     79.7     5.16    2818    96.1    57868   10662   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          103.0     67.9     4.40    2817   100.0    61500    9530   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         103.1     67.9     4.40    2816   100.0    61500    9528   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    100.0     68.1     4.41    2816   100.0    61500    9658   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      102.4     68.2     4.42    2815   100.0    61500    9501   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                112.0     79.7     5.16    2812    95.9    57539   10660   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      112.0     74.1     4.80    2809    95.7    59587   10224   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          102.3     70.4     4.56    2803    97.6    61500    9847   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        105.6     70.4     4.56    2803    97.6    61500    9847   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          105.6     70.4     4.56    2803    97.6    61500    9847   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           108.2     69.0     4.47    2800   100.0    61500    9321   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       108.3     73.0     4.73    2798    98.6    61500    9727   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     112.0     73.8     4.78    2797    97.0    55856   10487   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        112.0     73.8     4.78    2797    97.0    55856   10487   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      111.9     74.6     4.83    2793    99.5    61500    9518   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 112.0     73.0     4.73    2793   100.0    55516    9718   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   108.9     73.3     4.75    2792    95.6    61500    9870   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       103.2     69.8     4.52    2785    98.9    61500    9547   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             106.2     74.6     4.84    2780    97.6    61500    9596   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.8     68.2     4.42    2780   100.0    61500    8748   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         102.3     67.4     4.37    2769    99.2    61500    9390   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        94.8     64.6     4.18    2768    99.9    61500    9162   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      106.3     69.8     4.52    2767    96.6    61500    9536   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       95.4     64.2     4.16    2764   100.0    61500    8818   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          95.4     64.2     4.16    2764   100.0    61500    8818   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        112.0     77.5     5.02    2759    95.2    57146   10154   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       97.5     64.3     4.17    2759   100.0    61500    8739   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      112.0     72.5     4.70    2757    95.1    58993    9766   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   109.9     71.2     4.62    2757    95.9    61500    9564   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           112.0     72.5     4.70    2756    94.9    54341   10293   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        97.5     63.6     4.12    2753   100.0    61500    8749   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       112.0     76.1     4.93    2752    92.9    57812   10063   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         101.0     65.8     4.27    2747    99.7    61500    9055   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       99.6     65.2     4.22    2742    98.6    61500    9182   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          99.6     65.2     4.22    2742    98.6    61500    9182   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        96.5     65.2     4.23    2742    98.6    61500    9176   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 112.0     74.2     4.81    2738    99.0    50307   10335   1.251
Somchem S361                       105.0     74.6     4.83    2734    95.6    61500    9319   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    112.0     73.8     4.78    2731    97.7    57808    9349   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        90.4     62.1     4.02    2729   100.0    61500    8258   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       95.0     61.9     4.01    2725   100.0    61500    8247   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    112.0     71.6     4.64    2715    95.9    58866    9250   1.191  ! Near Maximum !


This should get you plenty of velocity.

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 Post subject: Re: .338 wm 225 gr etip
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:47 pm 

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Thanks for that info, that's great information. I'm not really wanting to hot rod my rifle though im mostly looking for the most accuracy and brass life. I probably would never take a 500 yard shot and 2650 seems to put it right around 2000 fps at that range.

I'm a little Leary of the BC numbers it almost seems too good to be true,. If it is accurate I will definitely be stocking up on these. Appreciate you doing the quickload.


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 Post subject: Re: .338 wm 225 gr etip
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:01 am 

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Pick your poison. Looks as if you have a good selection of propellants to generate velocity. Welcome aboard. Good to see you posting here. Let us know what you settle on and the results you are able to generate.

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 Post subject: Re: .338 wm 225 gr etip
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:28 pm 

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I will probably start with imr 4350 and a also have rl 22 on hand. It will probably not be untill this spring that I get to it, I'm a long haul trucker so I haven't been getting home much. Definitely hoping to have a good load worked up before fall. Right now I'm pretty stocked up on 210 NPs with 74 gr of imr 4350 and 225 gr sst with 72 gr of 4350 200 gr nosler ballistic tips with 74 gr of 4350 all around one inch. Seems like of all the powders IV tried the imr 4350 has been the most consistent.

I'd like to be able to work up a load using 4350 for the 225 gr etip and the 140 gr etip for 7mm rm using the same powder and if I can also make that work for the 257 Roberts with the 100 gr etip and the 30-338 and the 150 etip I'll be living in a perfect world and just buy an 8lb jug and be set.

Thanks for the welcome, iv been lurking for years : )


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