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OT, I'm not so much concered with velocity itself, I'm appreciative of what it does for me. A 10% increase in velocity results in a 10% increase in momentum, 20% increase in energy, and in general, a 25% decrease in the arc of the rainbow. There are all very useful when plugging game and long...

With turrets and a good drop chart it looks like a LRH to me....Long Range Hammer.....

OT, the numbers do not support your conclusion. Take the 180 gr NBT, at 3000, and 3300. Then compare the trajectories between 900 and 1000 yards at an altitute of 5280. At 3k it drops 4.1 MOA At 3.3k it drops 3.3 MOA. So, in this long range example, a 10% increase in velocity results in a 20%...

Another vote for trigger pull. This problem often begins with improper placement of the trigger finger. Make sure you are placing the center of the first pad on the trigger. In addition if a rifle is not properly fit to the shooter, especially if it's too short, it can cause the shooter to put...

What is that, 10 shots?

I did the samething to my STW. It took the bite right out of it. My friend was contemplating selling his RUM. If I happen to talk him out of it, it will be getting a break as well.

Because that last 2 inches of barrel with give you an additional 100 FPS, and allow optimum velocity gains out of slower powders. Old Roy gained as much extra velociyt out of his cartridges by lengthening the barrels, and matching the powder selection to the barrel length, as he did out of the...

I loaded the 200's in a friends Sendero. With WC872, we were getting 3250, and they shot well. I wanted to play with them some more, but he didn't like the recoil. Even in a 13 pound rifle they kind of let you know when you pulled the trigger. :P

Hope you can find some.....If not, try the 180's. They are real killers as well.

Metro area, near there.....

I like max loads, so I'm one of those guys that doesn't like Fed brass. In .223 I've found it so soft that when I tried to trim it the case mouths would tear rather then cut..... It's certainly not my first choice.....

In order to get the most out of a magnum, you need a longer barrel, and a slower powder. If you don't want a 26" or longer barrel, then forget the magnum and stick with a standard cartridge.

If you want easy ammo, the Whelen is out. You are on the right path. If you want one rifle for everything I would go with a 300 WSM loaded with 180gr NBT/AB. You will have good velocity, a bullet that opens well, and sufficent mass to accomplish all NA tasks. But a good barrel on it, 26" #4...

I would try some H4831. Not as temperature sensative, and will shoot just as well, if not better.

If you want a long range rig, get a real one: 7mm STW. 416 Rem/458 Win .44 mag carbine with a revolver to match.

Baltz, I agree with your basic analysis. Above 3100 I switch to accubonds. I would expect the 125gr AB at 3500 to be an efficent killer. I would expect very rapid expansion, but only moderate penetration as a result of the wide frontal area and reduced mass of the light for diameter 125gr...

I could load everything with: w748 w760 H4831 WC860 If you don't shoot Ultra mags, you can skip the WC860 and add in IMR4895. If I was creating a minimalist list it would probably look something like this: W748 W760 IMR4895/H322 H4350 H4831 WC860 With those 6, I can pretty much load every...

Be patient. The bottom will drop out of the gun/ammo market come Feburay/March.

With a 26" barrel I was somewhere around 2850-2900, with groups just under an inch.

I would stop closer to 58 with FC brass, it's thicker then Win brass and will reach max pressure more quickly.