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  1. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    I know this is off the subject, but I have been studying the .270 for a little while now. I know I’m going to ruffle some feathers here, but the .270 does 75% of what the 7mm Rem Mag can do. The advantage to the 7mm Mag, really only about 25 yds extra range, and only in all reality, a 10% to 15%...
  2. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    You’re absolutely correct! Some aren’t as good, some can equal, and very few can better either the 7mm-08 and the .308 Win! The reason they’ve stuck around as long as they have is because they perform well. They’re not flashy, or exciting, but they just plain work, and work well.
  3. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Has anyone here ever watched Mason Leather Outdoors on YouTube? I have some pretty good data comparing .308 and .30-06 factory loads. Ruger American 22 inch barrel .308 150 gr Federal Fusion Avg 2830 fps .308 180 gr Federal Fusion Avg 2616 fps Tikka T3 super light 22.4 inch bbl .30-06...
  4. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    The first and only time I had scope brow was with a Ruger M 77 in .338 Win Mag. This rifle was actually easier to shoot than my Ruger M 77 in .300 Win Mag. 🤣
  5. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    As one can see, the 150 gr bullet driven to 2800 fps is good for deer out to 500 yds. The 2900 fps is good for deer out to 550 yds. Either or it has enough steam to take a dear cleanly and humanely. The 165 gr bullet at 2700 FPS is good for a compromise bullet weight for deer out to 550 yds. For...
  6. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    They are from left to right: 1 - 150 gr .30 cal Ballistic Tip 2 - 165 gr .30 cal Ballistic Tip 3 - 180 gr .30 cal Ballistic Tip
  7. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Anyone recognize these ballistics tables?
  8. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    I wasn’t baiting per se! LOL But I knew you have used both, but prefer the 06, and I can see why. They’re both great cartridges! When I graduated high school back in the late 80’s, my dad and I were going to work on an old Israeli FN Mauser in .308 Win. My dad ordered it and he got a phone call...
  9. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    I was waiting to see what you would say Guy! This is superb! And whenever you want to share photos, by all means, please do. I know you’re an 06 guy when it comes to hunting, mostly. You opened my eyes to using it again, too. That’s why several years ago I got my Vanguard in 06. It fills what I...
  10. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    I believe you’re right about everything you said!
  11. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    This is cool! My Weatherby is the second .308 I own. The first is a Ruger American. That Ruger will shoot the Winchester 150 Power Points into just over an inch shooting 8 shots. I got the Bee because I’m a nut for 24 inch barrels on standard calibers. And I will use the Bee more than the Ruger...
  12. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Love to hear accounts like this! Thank you for sharing!
  13. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Holy Cow! I just enlarged the picture Jim! Does your M21 have a 24 inch barrel? The average velocity is 2810 fps! Thats cooking! What are you using to get that?
  14. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Excellent story and a really nice looking rifle!
  15. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    I couldn’t agree more! Thank you for posting this story!
  16. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    You hit the nail on the head with the description of John Wootters! I agree with what you said too!
  17. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Jim! I was wondering when you were going to give your testimony on the .308! What a great one read, too! Thank you as always!
  18. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    Your account of using the .308 is inspiring! Thank you for sharing! I greatly appreciate it!
  19. HAWKEYESATX

    Why No Love for The .308 Winchester

    I’m not sure if any of you read Peterson’s Hunting back in the day? One of my favorite writers back in the 90’s was a fellow by the name of John Woosters. He was the one writer that led me to the .308, and also read about him doing Texas hunting. His take on the .308, and it still holds true...
  20. HAWKEYESATX

    Lighter Recoil...

    Like most who have posted here, I was into the big hairy chested magnums when I was younger. But, I can say, I also had my fair share of light recoiling rifles too. I had a Ruger M77 in .25-06, and prairie dogs up to deer were hunted with it. I used a 100 gr Sierra Game King on everything. It...
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