Decided to run one of these into the jugs at 25 yards from my 6.5 CM. Interestingly it is one of the bullets I have NOT ran into jugs before I hunted with them, but I kinda got the reverse idea of what they were going to do since they were blowing right through good sized deer. While they aren't some heavy duty bullet, they are certainly plenty for any ol buck deer. The jacket and core were found in the bottom of #4 jug with a big ol dent in the back of it. I'll take it!