257 Rob +P QL request

[AK7AN]

I think I am giving up on the 115 gr Bergers in my wife's Ruger #1, just don't think they are stabilizing.. Getting down to crunch time as we are going to Colorado next month for a Muley hunt. If someone could run me a QL for 257 Rob, 115 gr Nosler BT, and 110 Gr AccuBond, Norma MRP powder, 26" barrel, It would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You and take care
Ed

 

[JD338]

Ed,

Take a look at RL22 in the 257 Roberts.
M700 Classic long action 24" barrel
115 gr BT
49.0 grs RL22
Nosler case
Federal GM210M primer
COL is 2.955"
MV 3136 fps. ES 18. SD 9
.383" c/c @ 100 yards.
I am getting long case life with this load as well.
This load is safe in MY rifle so work up carefully.

With a CDS dial on the VX-3 3.5-10x40mm scope, 600 yard hits on the gong are easy. My daughter loves shooting this rifle, which I gave to her.
The 115 gr BT is all the bullet you need.

JD338

 

[TackDriver284]

Cartridge : .257 Roberts +P+ (not SAAMI)
Bullet : .257, 115, Nosler BalTip 25115
Useable Case Capaci: 47.503 grain H2O = 3.084 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.775 inch = 70.49 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Norma MRP

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   95    43.20   2767    1955   38411   9588     94.2    1.437
-09.0   96    43.68   2801    2004   39780   9708     94.8    1.414
-08.0   97    44.16   2836    2053   41202   9824     95.3    1.391
-07.0   98    44.64   2870    2103   42681   9935     95.9    1.368
-06.0   99    45.12   2904    2153   44222  10042     96.3    1.346
-05.0  100    45.60   2938    2205   45824  10144     96.8    1.324
-04.0  101    46.08   2973    2256   47492  10241     97.2    1.302
-03.0  102    46.56   3007    2309   49230  10334     97.6    1.281
-02.0  103    47.04   3041    2362   51039  10420     98.0    1.260  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  104    47.52   3075    2415   52927  10502     98.4    1.240  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    48.00   3110    2469   54893  10578     98.7    1.220  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  106    48.48   3144    2524   56946  10648     98.9    1.200  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  107    48.96   3178    2579   59086  10712     99.2    1.180  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  108    49.44   3212    2635   61324  10770     99.4    1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  109    49.92   3246    2691   63661  10822     99.6    1.142  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  110    50.40   3280    2747   66103  10868     99.7    1.124  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    48.00   3276    2741   68286  10222    100.0    1.118  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    48.00   2878    2114   43740  10222     91.8    1.350

Cartridge : .257 Roberts +P+ (not SAAMI)
Bullet : .257, 110, Nosler AccuBond 53742
Useable Case Capaci: 47.636 grain H2O = 3.093 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.775 inch = 70.49 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Norma MRP

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   96    44.10   2840    1970   39228   9657     93.8    1.396
-09.0   97    44.59   2875    2019   40650   9780     94.4    1.373
-08.0   98    45.08   2911    2070   42138   9897     95.0    1.350
-07.0   99    45.57   2947    2121   43682  10011     95.6    1.328
-06.0  101    46.06   2982    2172   45292  10119     96.1    1.306
-05.0  102    46.55   3018    2225   46956  10223     96.6    1.284
-04.0  103    47.04   3054    2278   48720  10322     97.0    1.263
-03.0  104    47.53   3090    2332   50544  10415     97.4    1.242  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    48.02   3126    2386   52447  10503     97.8    1.221  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  106    48.51   3161    2441   54433  10585     98.2    1.201  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  107    49.00   3197    2497   56507  10662     98.5    1.181  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  108    49.49   3233    2553   58674  10732     98.8    1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  109    49.98   3269    2610   60941  10796     99.1    1.142  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  110    50.47   3304    2667   63310  10854     99.3    1.123  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  111    50.96   3340    2725   65790  10905     99.5    1.105  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  112    51.45   3376    2783   68387  10950     99.7    1.086  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    107    49.00   3371    2775   70321  10315    100.0    1.082  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    107    49.00   2956    2134   45025  10281     91.5    1.308

 

[SJB358]

MRP and 22 are just about the same so I’d expect they will act fairly similar. That’s a danged powerful load. I dig those 257 Roberts.

 

[PJGunner]

Interesting. My Ruger #1B .257 Bob is a half inch gun shooting Norma 100 gr. factory loads. Dunno when Norma dropped the cartridge but they still shoot good. Got five boxes of the ammo when I bought the rifle at a gun show.
My other .257 Bob is a Winchester M70 FWT and so far it doesn't shoot anything worth spit. TRies some 100 gr. Sierras and 2.5" is so far about the best they'll do. Tried some 120 gr. Speers but they were a total disaster. Maybe I'll try them in the #1. I know the 120's will shoot just fine in the #1B in 25-06 so they won't go to waste.
Paul B.

 

[AK7AN]

Thanks for the QL and advice. I have a 8lb'r of Norma MRP and it really shines with the heavier bullets. Looks like the Accubonds are out of stock again, but I will be at Cabelas in Lehi on Tuesday and they show that they have the BT's in stock. Berger says 1 in 10 twist on the VLD box, but I read somewhere that 1 in 9 is way better. Kelli's #1 is a 1 in 10. Whats the going consensus on seating the BT's.. .010 of the lands a good place to start or do they like a little jump? Still don't have any of my rifles ready for our hunt next month.. but I think my 7.65 is almost there showing some promise anyways.
Once again thanks to all.
Take care
Ed

 

[DrMike]

Ballistic Tips should be treated as the cup-and-core bullet that they are. They will generally give you the best accuracy near the lands.

 

[TackDriver284]

I would start at .010" off the lands, once a nice velocity / load is found, seat deeper if necessary to tighten groups.

 

[JD338]

MRP and 22 are just about the same so I’d expect they will act fairly similar. That’s a danged powerful load. I dig those 257 Roberts.

Scotty,

You were the one who helped me develop this load.
It is indeed a powerful load. The energy transfer into a water jug is impressive.

JD338