30-06 Reloading ???

[ldg397]

I have been toying with a reload for the 165 grain AccuBond for my Steyr classic american in 30-06. Got the following results from RL19 Nosler Brass CCI-BR primer. Overall length measurement was a .020 jump to the the lands.

52 grains = 1.089
54 grains = 1.558
56 grains = 1.146
58 grains = 1.195 Not sure if this is max?? No signs of pressure

Seems fairly consistant and inconclusive across the whole spectrum except for one. Next step?

Would you go to the H4350 per this website load page or IMR 4350 which I have seen mentioned or try a range of OL's before moving to the next powder. I also have 4831sc but don't see it recommend anywhere.

Does the new manual give any additional load data for the AccuBond's in this caliber?

 

[6ppcar]

It will probably shoot better if you would move the bullet closer to the lands, I've never got a barrel to shoot the way i want it to by jumping the bullet. 4350 works great with the 30-06.

 

[JD338]

I would try RL22.
Start at 59.0 grs and work up to a MAX of 63.0 grs.

JD338

 

[rick smith]

My standard 30/06 load is 58.5-58.8 IMR-4350, WLR, 165gr bullet seated 10-15 thou off the lands. Has worked in most 30/06s I put it in. Give it a try.Rick.

 

[CZ]

My pet load- 165gr nosler ballistic Tip- 61.1RL22-WWcases-CCi200
In my Rem700 groups nicely.must test velocity.

 

[FOTIS]

I have played with the '06 fo years. RL22 and H4350 almost always yielded the best results.

 

[ldg397]

Thanks for the info guys! Does the new nosler book have more extensive loading data for the AccuBond??

 

[yeayow]

Just some quick checking with quickload using the basic data you gave 58.2 grains of R19 should give you the same barrel time difference off of optimum barrel time as the 52 grain load did. I've been playing with optimum barrel time calculations. Iwish i had more data to back it up because it sure would be fun to find a load just off the bench. If you shoot groups and get data like yours you can find out how far you are off a node then plug different values into quickload to put you the same amount off of another node with a lower or higher charge and go from there. it should give you about the same group size. here is a link to the guys site who came up with the OBT chart

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring.
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.348 inch or 85.04 mm
Barrel Length : 23.6 inch or 599.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 83 46.56 2184 1748 26078 7181 80.6 1.583
-18.0 85 47.72 2240 1838 27773 7453 82.1 1.542
-16.0 87 48.89 2296 1932 29581 7724 83.6 1.502
-14.0 89 50.05 2353 2029 31509 7990 85.0 1.464
-12.0 91 51.22 2410 2129 33571 8253 86.4 1.426
-10.0 93 52.38 2468 2232 35774 8510 87.8 1.389
-08.0 95 53.54 2526 2338 38131 8761 89.0 1.350
-06.0 98 54.71 2584 2447 40653 9005 90.3 1.310
-04.0 100 55.87 2643 2559 43356 9241 91.4 1.271
-02.0 102 57.04 2702 2674 46254 9468 92.5 1.234
+00.0 104 58.20 2761 2792 49367 9685 93.5 1.198
+02.0 106 59.36 2820 2913 52709 9890 94.5 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 108 60.53 2879 3037 56309 10084 95.4 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
+06.0 110 61.69 2939 3164 60187 10265 96.2 1.096 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 112 62.86 2999 3294 64371 10432 97.0 1.064 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 114 64.02 3058 3427 68895 10584 97.7 1.033 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 104 58.20 2920 3124 59368 9902 98.6 1.107 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 104 58.20 2563 2406 40516 9002 84.9 1.313


Node Node Node Node Node Node Node
Barrel
Length, in. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
16.0 0.5527 0.6096 0.6879 0.7458 0.8232 0.8821 0.9585
16.5 0.5691 0.6274 0.7088 0.7681 0.8485 0.9087 0.9882
17.0 0.5856 0.6452 0.7297 0.7903 0.8738 0.9354 1.0180
17.5 0.6020 0.6630 0.7506 0.8125 0.8991 0.9620 1.0477
18.0 0.6185 0.6809 0.7715 0.8348 0.9245 0.9886 1.0774
18.5 0.6350 0.6987 0.7924 0.8570 0.9498 1.0153 1.1072
19.0 0.6514 0.7165 0.8133 0.8792 0.9751 1.0419 1.1369
19.5 0.6679 0.7344 0.8341 0.9015 1.0004 1.0686 1.1666
20.0 0.6843 0.7522 0.8550 0.9237 1.0257 1.0952 1.1964
20.5 0.7008 0.7700 0.8759 0.9459 1.0510 1.1219 1.2261
21.0 0.7173 0.7878 0.8968 0.9682 1.0763 1.1485 1.2559
21.5 0.7337 0.8057 0.9177 0.9904 1.1016 1.1751 1.2856
22.0 0.7502 0.8235 0.9386 1.0126 1.1270 1.2018 1.3153
22.5 0.7666 0.8413 0.9595 1.0349 1.1523 1.2284 1.3451
23.0 0.7831 0.8591 0.9803 1.0571 1.1776 1.2551 1.3748
23.5 0.7996 0.8770 1.0012 1.0793 1.2029 1.2817 1.4046
24.0 0.8160 0.8948 1.0221 1.1016 1.2282 1.3084 1.4343
24.5 0.8325 0.9126 1.0430 1.1238 1.2535 1.3350 1.4640
25.0 0.8489 0.9305 1.0639 1.1461 1.2788 1.3617 1.4938
25.5 0.8654 0.9483 1.0848 1.1683 1.3042 1.3883 1.5235
26.0 0.8819 0.9661 1.1057 1.1905 1.3295 1.4149 1.5533
26.5 0.8983 0.9839 1.1266 1.2128 1.3548 1.4416 1.5830
27.0 0.9148 1.0018 1.1474 1.2350 1.3801 1.4682 1.6127
27.5 0.9312 1.0196 1.1683 1.2572 1.4054 1.4949 1.6425
28.0 0.9477 1.0374 1.1892 1.2795 1.4307 1.5215 1.6722
28.5 0.9642 1.0552 1.2101 1.3017 1.4560 1.5482 1.7020
29.0 0.9806 1.0731 1.2310 1.3239 1.4813 1.5748 1.7317
29.5 0.9971 1.0909 1.2519 1.3462 1.5067 1.6014 1.7614
30.0 1.0136 1.1087 1.2728 1.3684 1.5320 1.6281 1.7912
30.5 1.0300 1.1266 1.2936 1.3906 1.5573 1.6547 1.8209
31.0 1.0465 1.1444 1.3145 1.4129 1.5826 1.6814 1.8507
31.5 1.0629 1.1622 1.3354 1.4351 1.6079 1.7080 1.8804
32.0 1.0794 1.1800 1.3563 1.4573 1.6332 1.7347 1.9101
32.5 1.0959 1.1979 1.3772 1.4796 1.6585 1.7613 1.9399
33.0 1.1123 1.2157 1.3981 1.5018 1.6839 1.7879 1.9696
33.5 1.1288 1.2335 1.4190 1.5240 1.7092 1.8146 1.9994
34.0 1.1452 1.2513 1.4399 1.5463 1.7345 1.8412 2.0291
34.5 1.1617 1.2692 1.4607 1.5685 1.7598 1.8679 2.0588
35.0 1.1782 1.2870 1.4816 1.5908 1.7851 1.8945 2.0886
35.5 1.1946 1.3048 1.5025 1.6130 1.8104 1.9212 2.1183
36.0 1.2111 1.3226 1.5234 1.6352 1.8357 1.9478 2.1481
Optimum Barrel Time vs. Barrel length, mS
Node number as Parameter

 

[TBASTIAN]

I use a load from the Sierra reloading manual which shoots both the Hornady Interbond, and Sierra Gameking, 165 grain bullets extremely well. I'm using a Browning A-Bolt SS and average under 1/2" with the Gamekings, and under 1" with the Interbonds. (3 shot groups at 100 yards)

I'm using Winchester Brass, Winchester LR Primers, and 54.3 grains of IMR-4350. This load pushes the bullets at around 2,800 FPS.
-TB

 

[JCalhoun]

I have found best accuracy with the 165gr bullets in .30-06 with Varget powder and BR2 primers. WLR primers worked well also.

I did use H4350 for a while in the '06 before giving Varget a try.

 

[reflex264]

I have had good results with Benchmark,Varget, IMR4350,H4350,RL19,RL22,2015BR,H335 and H4831SC but I have had the best accuracy load with WW760 and 210M primers in W-W brass. Groups run .25-.50 consistently. You can get more velocity from some of the others but never seen better accuaracy. reflex264

 

[Eagleye]

I'm using Winchester Brass, Winchester LR Primers, and 54.3 grains of IMR-4350. This load pushes the bullets at around 2,800 FPS.
-TB

Have you actually Chronographed this load??? In My 24" barrelled Remington 700 55.0 grains of IMR 4350 with the 165 grain bullet only makes 2675 across the Chronograph. Regards, Eagleye.

 

[rick smith]

My load of 58.5-58.8, depending of rifle, with a 22" barrel crosses the chronograph at 2830-2850 fps with a 165gr bullet. However, last year I worked up loads for a 30/06 with a 20" barrel that was slightly faster than my 22" barrels.Rick.

 

[manitou210]

I have used many powders in 06 for years but last fall I took out of safe a Rem 700 BDL 22" barrel I had given my son for his 14th birthday, he shot a nice 200lb buck with it that fall and never hunted again sad day for me. Gun had not been shot for 25 years gun is like new. friend told me try RL 19
with 165gr Nosler BT.
I only had Partitions so to test I used some Hornady Gold match 168gr
used neckturned winchester brass & Fed gold match primers.
Seated bullets just off rifling.
Started at 57gr and worked up
just below max load
I had stuck a old weaver T6 with a 1/4"dot by t k lee I used for

hunterclass shooting
Pictures speak a thousand words 100 yards and at 300 just over 1"

 

[russ808]

Great group. H4350 @56.5 grains is my fav.

 

[old #7]

This is my Rem 700 ltd 30-06
It likes RP brass
Fed 215 primers
62 compressed grains of RL-19
165gr AB's

This load is near max so start lower and work up.
The grids are 1/2"

 

[JD338]

old #7

Nice shooting load. Good job!

JD338

 

[Scott Spencer]

Can someone tell me how to get a ballistic table for my load? I've tried a couple of the free ones on the internet but I can't figure out how to input 3" high at 100 to start. What I am trying to see is what the bullet will do sighted in 3" high at 100. I don't have a chronograph but I guess my load is around 2700-2800 fps (could be way off on my guess)

My load:
Remington brass
Nosler 180 gr Partition
Federal 210 primer
IMR 4350 56 gr
Length 3.30"

Winchester Model 70 FW 30-06 w/ 22" barrel

Forgive my question as I am still pretty new to reloading!!

Thanks!

 

[old #7]

I think your best bet is to try entering where you want your zero to be , then set your target to 100yds.
For example; I want to be zeroed @ 300 yds but my range might only allow a 100yd shot. I will enter my 0 @ 300 yds but enter my target @ 100. The ballistic calculator will tell me to set my sights to .......@ 100yds for a 300 yd 0.
Remington Shoot will graph the trajectory and also give you a ballistic table in incremental values you select.
Knowing your FPS will greatly improve your results with any ballistic calculator.
Hope this helps.

 

[cloverleaf]

I am officially jealous of those groups!!! Nice work. CL