accubond vs ballistic tip....
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The Ballistic Tip is basically the same Bullet as the Solid Base with the Polymer Tip added.Starts Expanding Faster than the Solid Base does.
The AccuBond has a Thicker Jacket and a slightly Different Shaped and Bonded Lead Core ,while the above do not,but almost the same shape and B.C as both .Expands slower,more controlled,penetrates better and retains more wieght than them as well.
In my opinion the AccuBond is alot closer in the performance dept,to the Partiton than either the Soild Base or Ballistic Tip.
The AccuBond has a Thicker Jacket and a slightly Different Shaped and Bonded Lead Core ,while the above do not,but almost the same shape and B.C as both .Expands slower,more controlled,penetrates better and retains more wieght than them as well.
In my opinion the AccuBond is alot closer in the performance dept,to the Partiton than either the Soild Base or Ballistic Tip.
2ndtimer
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- Sep 26, 2004
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I agree with Tiny's explanation. I kind of consider the AccuBond to be the best compromise. It is accurate like the Ballistic Tip, shares the high ballistic coefficient of the Ballistic Tip, doesn't mash the tips of the bullets in the magazine, yet gives controlled expansion like a Solid Base, yet penetrates almost as well as a Partition. In theory, the AccuBond gives you the best of all the Nosler bullets combined. Which is why they should start making them in 6.5 caliber!!
In my .270WSM, it is the AccuBond for deer and elk, and the 130 gr Ballistic Tip for varmints. I bought some 150 gr Partitions, but haven't loaded any because the Accubonds shoot so well, and I have been assured will perform just fine on elk.
In my .270WSM, it is the AccuBond for deer and elk, and the 130 gr Ballistic Tip for varmints. I bought some 150 gr Partitions, but haven't loaded any because the Accubonds shoot so well, and I have been assured will perform just fine on elk.
Son of the Gael
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- Nov 9, 2004
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I've shot elk with both the ballistic tip and accubonds out of my 300 weatherby and 300 winmag. Prior to the accubonds coming out I had tried the ballistic tip 180 grain bullets on both elk and deer. I was always very impressed with the accuracy, but I wasn't at all impressed with the bullet performance. I wouldn't recomend the ballistic tips for any kind of big game hunting, but target shooting, and varmit shooting they are tough to beat.
The last two years I have been using 200 grain acubonds in my 300 weatherby mag. They are just as accurate as the ballistic tips, and the performance is great. I am so impressed with the AccuBond, I doubt I will ever try anything else in a big game rifle. I am going to try the 180 grain accubonds this year.
The last two years I have been using 200 grain acubonds in my 300 weatherby mag. They are just as accurate as the ballistic tips, and the performance is great. I am so impressed with the AccuBond, I doubt I will ever try anything else in a big game rifle. I am going to try the 180 grain accubonds this year.
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Nice job on the explanations guys. We got some shooters here. Perkins42 what where the ranges, velocities of your loads? Might have had velocities higher than the bullet was designed to handle. AccuBonds are surely a good choice in your .300 Win Mag and .300 Weatherby Mag.
The velocities in the 300 winmag were around 3100 fps with the 165 BT and about 3180 fps with the 300 weatherby. More times than not the ballistic tip baged game for me. I have lost 1 deer I shot twice behind the front shoulder, under 200 yards, and almost lost one elk I shot once at 550-600 yards in the front shoulder. When I skined the elk I noticed the bullet all but exploded on impact. It did break the front shoulder, and after about 10 miles of tracking I was able to finish the elk. After that I did some research on the ballistic tip and what I found out is they aren't designed for big game. They are not a bonded bullet, and they are not a Partition. They are a plymer tiped varmit or target bullet for the most part.
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Perkins:
My findings mirror yours. My 300 RUM SAKO gets the 200 AB now!... Nothing else!
My findings mirror yours. My 300 RUM SAKO gets the 200 AB now!... Nothing else!
white eagle
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- Feb 14, 2005
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I have to dissagree
when I go to the range or to the field I use bt's I really like the ct's but have yet to have any kind of bullet failure when I put the bt's where they belong.
when I go to the range or to the field I use bt's I really like the ct's but have yet to have any kind of bullet failure when I put the bt's where they belong.
white eagle
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- Feb 14, 2005
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sorry 7-08,280 rem.,300 win mag,22-250
white eagle":12wvc4we said:
Exactly!
I have taken around 15 mule deer - most running between 300 & 375 pounds live weight - and a couple of mountain caribou using the 180 grain BT launched with a 30-06. Distances have ranged from as close as 50 feet to as long as 350 yards. Every one of those deer died within 100 yards of where they were hit and none required a second bullet. I also have never recovered a single bullet as all have exited the off side. I don't shoot deer in the shoulders however (why do so many American hunters go for the wastefull shoulder shot anyways?) and only take high percentage lung shots.
I have also used the 200 grain .338 BT out of my 338 Win Mag to take 2 nice bull moose. While I don't know if Nosler recomends the bullet for that situation I have to say I didn't have a failure on either animal. In fact one of the bulls was a facing shot and the bullet was recovered buried deep in one of the rear quarters after driving through the moose length-wise. Last fall I used the 200 grain BT in my 338-06 to take a mule deer at around 250 yards. There was a silver dollar sized entrance and the same size exit and one deer that died on it's feet!
I wasn't aiming for the front shoulders, I was aiming behind them in the vitals, but at 500 plus yards it is not uncommon for me to miss my aim by 6 or 8 inches which consequently puts the bullet in the front shoulders in which case I am much more comfortable with a premimum hunting bullet (AB). Sounds like you have had good luck with the BTs, but I am fairly sure the BT is not a bullet designed to kill moose.
