Butch's Bore Shine

bob_dobalina

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Oct 6, 2009
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Just tried Butch's Bore Shine for the first time and after a "fouling group" got the best group I've ever had out of my rifle. Funny thing is I don't think it is as potent as I thought when I bought and doesn't really remove copper? Anyone else use this solvent? If so how often? I am thinking about completely switching from hoppes for general cleaning.
 
I've used it quite a bit - and you may be right - I don't think it's all that great at cutting the copper either. It does seem to be a good general purpose barrel cleaner.
 
I use Butch's Bore Shine on all customer rifles. It will remove copper, but you do have to scrub. I use it because people are likely to continue using it as it is a simple product to use.
 
I use Butche's Bore Shine as a general purpose cleaner and Sweets 7.62 for copper.

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I like Butch's for everything. It doesn't remove copper as well as Sweet's, but it will take out most of it if you use it consistently IMO. This is the cleaner I take to the range and use to really scrub when I get home.
 
I mostly use Montana Extreme products, but I bought a bottle of Butch's to give it a try. We'll see...

I will say this about the ME stuff... the smell of the Bore Solvent and (particularly) the Copper Killer will drive you out of the garage.
 
I currently have a bottle of butch's that I'm working on. I'm thinking I'm going back to the wipe out though. I really want to try the new product that they came out with to make it work faster. The nice thing about this is I don't have to stink up the house to get the copper out. Happy wife, hapy life!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/461265 ... cm_vc=S014
 
Never used Butchs.. I have used Montana stuff for awhile, recently just switched to Bore Tech stuff. Same effect as Montana without the stink.
 
i have used butches for quite awhile now not really an aggressive copper remover but you can let it sit overnight. it does however reveal evidence of copper on the patch rather well.
 
Jmad_81 - That accelerator stuff coupled with patch-out works pretty doggone well. Quickly too.
 
I tried Butch's once. It's good for carbon, but not very quick with copper (though to usmc 89's point, it will take out copper if left long enough). I don't know that it pulls carbon out any better than Hoppe's #9, though, so I've stuck with my favorite solvent scent on the bench in lieue of Butch's. For copper, I'm firmly in the BoreTech Eliminator camp. I've tried maybe 18-20 different solvents over the years, and BTE gets the last bit of copper out better than anything else I've tried.
 
I primarily use Butch's. Works great for me.

Disclaimer: I only shoot one centerfire rifle, and it has an aftermarket barrel on it. The barrel picked up very little copper before I treated it with Ultra Bore Coat, and now it picks up no copper, as far as I can tell.
 
That boretech eliminator looks pretty good. I will say butch's had a strong smell. Would you see using eliminator when copper fouling is noticeable and butch's for general cleaning, just eliminator, etc?
How are you identifying copper fouling? I just noticed it looking down my barrel after cleaning with butch's, once all carbon fouling was removed.
 
With alkaline solutions (almost all bore cleaners that remove copper), copper dissolves and you will witness a blue colouration on the patch coming through the bore.
 
I pretty much just use BTE at this point. I keep Hoppe's #9 around because it smells right, and it's great for cleaning small parts like screws, etc. to get the oil off.

As for copper, I can see it in my bore in copper to bronze colored streaks. Dr. Mike is right - it comes out blue as can be. I've actually seen rifles with very heavy copper fouling, that have been left to sit in a safe for a few months, with green streaks (like the statue of liberty) from the copper oxidizing.
 
If you want to remove copper, start with Barnes CR-10.
Then follow with butches for the general purpose barrel cleaning....
 
Bought some yesterday, and used it today, works well for me, I never let my rifles go more than 10-20 rounds without a good cleaning, butch's works well, but smells like ***p :eek:
 
I always have used G96 complete gun treatment for many years, gave Butch's a try and I like it :grin: ..these patchs came out of a super clean barrel, (so I thought)..end result is my rifles groups have really tightened up, I use it whether I shoot 5,10-20 rounds, I'm sure bore tech and others work well also, but if cleaned on a regular basis like I do, they all work...Lou :)
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