QL 28 Nosler

[MAinAR]

Don't own one of course but have some interest in data to help decision making. Pie in sky but has me thinking.

Does anyone have enough info on the case dimensions to run a QL on the 28 Nosler with 180 grain berger match hunting vld?? Thinking OAL would be near 3.5"

 

[Ridgerunner665]

I cheated...I changed the groove diameter and cross sectional bore diameter of the 26 Nosler to that of a 7mm round...should be close, but DO NOT USE as load data...just realized, I should have used at least 26" for the barrel.

Cartridge          : .28 Nosler
Bullet             : .284, 180, Berger Hunt VLD G7 #28502
Useable Case Capaci: 89.938 grain H2O = 5.840 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.500 inch = 88.90 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

116 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        101.9     90.0     5.83    3129    99.8    64000   18229   1.229  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                     97.4     85.1     5.52    3078    99.4    64000   17745   1.259  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                  97.9     89.2     5.78    3064    99.5    64000   17514   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 103.4     92.7     6.01    3058    99.3    64000   17903   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       103.4     88.5     5.73    3051    99.9    64000   16991   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          102.9     84.0     5.44    3022   100.0    64000   15718   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        100.8     84.1     5.45    3022   100.0    64000   15302   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    100.8     84.1     5.45    3022   100.0    64000   15302   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      106.2     89.4     5.79    3007    92.6    64000   17129   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   100.9     89.1     5.77    3005    95.8    64000   16667   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                         96.7     80.2     5.20    3004   100.0    64000   15617   1.268  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            93.8     75.5     4.90    3001   100.0    64000   15236   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     105.8     93.4     6.05    2994    95.9    64000   16708   1.256  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         93.5     80.5     5.21    2993   100.0    64000   14940   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                         98.3     80.6     5.23    2991   100.0    64000   14902   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                       98.3     80.6     5.23    2991   100.0    64000   14902   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      92.5     75.8     4.91    2978   100.0    64000   14991   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  90.0     75.5     4.89    2978   100.0    64000   14959   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  94.5     78.0     5.05    2974   100.0    64000   14488   1.260  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      107.0     92.6     6.00    2971    98.9    61301   16156   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   107.0     95.5     6.19    2966    97.3    61325   16691   1.294  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    101.5     83.3     5.40    2948    98.6    64000   15433   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       93.0     74.9     4.85    2943   100.0    64000   14479   1.241  ! Near Maximum !

 

[6mm Remington]

Any bets on how long it will be before Nosler makes a 30 Nosler!! I'm calling it before the end of this summer.

 

[JD338]

Any bets on how long it will be before Nosler makes a 30 Nosler!! I'm calling it before the end of this summer.

and a 33 Nosler.

JD338

 

[nvbroncrider]

Any bets on how long it will be before Nosler makes a 30 Nosler!! I'm calling it before the end of this summer.

and a 33 Nosler.

JD338

Guys they already have reamers what are you waiting for?

 

[6mm Remington]

Jake I am very happy with what I have with my .280 AI and am wanting nothing more!! :shock: :grin:

 

[Ridgerunner665]

Reworked it with a 26" barrel this time...also shortened the OAL to 3.4" which is about all that will feed through a long action Nosler M48...again, DO NOT use this for load data, but it should be real close to what can be expected from the 28 Nosler.

Cartridge          : .28 Nosler
Bullet             : .284, 180, Berger Hunt VLD G7 #28502
Useable Case Capaci: 88.336 grain H2O = 5.736 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.400 inch = 86.36 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

111 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        102.5     88.9     5.76    3197    99.9    64000   16323   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                     98.1     84.2     5.46    3146    99.6    64000   15934   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                  98.5     88.2     5.71    3132    99.8    64000   15725   1.316  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 104.1     91.7     5.94    3128    99.6    64000   16084   1.342  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       104.1     87.5     5.67    3117   100.0    64000   15215   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          103.6     83.1     5.38    3085   100.0    64000   14057   1.332  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    101.6     83.1     5.39    3084   100.0    64000   13697   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        101.6     83.1     5.39    3084   100.0    64000   13697   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     90.3     75.1     4.87    3073   100.0    64000   14104   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     90.5     78.4     5.08    3072   100.0    64000   14393   1.315  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      106.8     88.3     5.72    3072    93.4    64000   15496   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   101.5     88.0     5.71    3069    96.5    64000   15036   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                         97.4     79.3     5.14    3066   100.0    64000   13977   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            94.4     74.7     4.84    3060   100.0    64000   13625   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     106.5     92.4     5.98    3059    96.5    64000   15080   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         90.5     74.5     4.83    3052   100.0    64000   13565   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         94.1     79.6     5.16    3052   100.0    64000   13355   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                         99.0     79.7     5.17    3050   100.0    64000   13319   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                       99.0     79.7     5.17    3050   100.0    64000   13319   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      93.1     75.0     4.86    3037   100.0    64000   13431   1.313  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  90.6     74.6     4.83    3037   100.0    64000   13402   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  95.2     77.1     5.00    3033   100.0    64000   12980   1.315  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      107.0     90.9     5.89    3011    99.1    59699   14450   1.348  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      90.4     80.2     5.20    3010   100.0    64000   12794   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    102.2     82.3     5.33    3008    98.9    64000   13878   1.320  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   107.0     93.8     6.08    3008    97.6    59716   14963   1.365  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       93.5     74.0     4.80    3000   100.0    64000   12961   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     94.0     73.4     4.76    2956   100.0    64000   12229   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     93.4     75.2     4.87    2950   100.0    64000   12002   1.315  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       91.0     74.1     4.80    2933   100.0    64000   11823   1.343  ! Near Maximum !

 

[muleman]

Any bets on how long it will be before Nosler makes a 30 Nosler!! I'm calling it before the end of this summer.

and a 33 Nosler.

JD338

I've heard they are already in for SAMMI approval. They've adjusted the shoulders back for both the 30 and 33.
Scott

 

[muleman]

I've been playing with Q/L as well to approximate the 28 Nosler. I'm building one as we speak. I'm running a 27" barrel and a COAL 3.6". I'd like to shoot the 175ABLRs. Here is what Q/L gives me. The bore area, groove caliber and COAL have been edited from a base 26Nosler. I've measured a few unfired cases and my actual useable case capacity is higher. I'll wait till I have fired case data B4 I edit this column. The bullet data is stock.THIS IS NOT LOADING DATA!

P.S. What is the best way copy data from Q/L to this forum?

Cartridge          : .28 Nosler
Bullet             : ?? .284, 175, Nosler Accubond LR 58517
Useable Case Capaci: 91.632 grain H2O = 5.950 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 27.0 inch = 685.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

194 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        102.0     91.8     5.95    3277   100.0    64000   16065   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                     97.5     86.9     5.63    3224    99.7    64000   15701   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  100.4     92.0     5.96    3212   100.0    64000   15358   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                  98.0     90.9     5.89    3209    99.8    64000   15484   1.327  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 103.5     94.5     6.13    3205    99.7    64000   15833   1.354  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       103.5     90.3     5.85    3194   100.0    64000   14972   1.330  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          103.0     85.7     5.55    3160   100.0    64000   13842   1.343  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        101.0     85.7     5.56    3158   100.0    64000   13490   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    101.0     85.7     5.56    3158   100.0    64000   13490   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 104.3     93.2     6.04    3153    95.0    64000   15718   1.354  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     89.8     77.5     5.02    3150   100.0    64000   13909   1.316  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     90.0     80.9     5.24    3150   100.0    64000   14187   1.324  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   101.0     90.9     5.89    3146    96.7    64000   14849   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                         96.9     81.8     5.30    3142   100.0    64000   13774   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                         96.9     81.8     5.30    3142   100.0    64000   13774   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 92.3     83.2     5.39    3140   100.0    64000   13561   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   92.1     83.0     5.38    3138   100.0    64000   13529   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        88.8     77.1     4.99    3137   100.0    64000   13438   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            93.9     77.1     4.99    3137   100.0    64000   13438   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         90.1     76.9     4.99    3129   100.0    64000   13382   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         93.6     82.1     5.32    3127   100.0    64000   13162   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                         98.5     82.3     5.33    3125   100.0    64000   13127   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                       98.5     82.3     5.33    3125   100.0    64000   13127   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           87.9     77.5     5.02    3124   100.0    64000   13288   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  86.4     78.4     5.08    3116   100.0    64000   13081   1.343  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   85.5     76.9     4.98    3116   100.0    64000   12924   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        93.8     80.8     5.24    3115   100.0    64000   13536   1.301  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      92.6     77.4     5.01    3114   100.0    64000   13247   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         92.6     77.4     5.01    3114   100.0    64000   13247   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  90.2     77.0     4.99    3114   100.0    64000   13220   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        90.2     77.0     4.99    3114   100.0    64000   13220   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        90.2     77.0     4.99    3114   100.0    64000   13220   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  94.7     79.5     5.15    3108   100.0    64000   12798   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      105.0     90.0     5.83    3104    93.0    61167   15106   1.342  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     105.0     94.5     6.12    3104    96.4    61959   14765   1.341  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       91.7     76.8     4.98    3101   100.0    64000   13136   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    101.7     84.9     5.50    3085    99.1    64000   13698   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         87.6     73.6     4.77    3085   100.0    64000   12652   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      89.9     82.7     5.36    3084   100.0    64000   12610   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  88.1     74.4     4.82    3082   100.0    64000   12703   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    89.5     76.4     4.95    3077   100.0    64000   12788   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       93.1     76.4     4.95    3077   100.0    64000   12788   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          88.7     75.0     4.86    3076   100.0    64000   12620   1.311  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                          99.0     90.0     5.83    3072    97.1    64000   13717   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         86.6     73.1     4.74    3065   100.0    64000   12443   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           86.6     73.1     4.74    3065   100.0    64000   12443   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       87.7     73.0     4.73    3049   100.0    64000   12284   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              87.2     77.7     5.03    3038   100.0    64000   12131   1.320  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      105.0     92.5     6.00    3037    98.9    56668   14118   1.393  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        88.1     75.3     4.88    3037   100.0    64000   12074   1.332  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                  91.9     75.9     4.92    3037   100.0    64000   11896   1.339  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  105.0     90.6     5.87    3033    98.8    58033   14042   1.395  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   105.0     95.4     6.18    3032    97.3    56667   14588   1.412  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     93.6     75.8     4.91    3032   100.0    64000   12070   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     92.9     77.7     5.03    3025   100.0    64000   11842   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        86.9     78.2     5.07    3024   100.0    64000   12147   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                       86.5     71.5     4.63    3022   100.0    64000   11741   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                          95.7     76.5     4.95    3007   100.0    64000   11666   1.353  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       90.5     76.5     4.95    3007   100.0    64000   11666   1.353  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            87.6     70.8     4.59    3002   100.0    64000   11441   1.335  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       105.0     90.6     5.87    2978    97.4    54497   14013   1.434
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 85.7     70.0     4.54    2967   100.0    64000   10837   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
NC A3502 ,test only                105.0     86.8     5.62    2789    80.6    45086   13483   1.515
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           105.0     86.8     5.62    2746    81.4    43568   12940   1.554
Rottweil P805                       85.2     35.6     2.31    2342   100.0    64000    5947   1.336  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star            98.0     41.3     2.68    2257   100.0    64000    5277   1.371  ! Near Maximum !
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       105.0     86.8     5.62    1978    40.3    22874    6743   2.071
IMR TrailBoss                      105.0     29.9     1.94    1908   100.0    40161    3988   1.686
ADI AS 25 BP                       105.0     29.9     1.94    1908   100.0    40161    3988   1.686

 

[Ridgerunner665]

muleman,

Copy and paste as you are doing...but paste it between this...

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No spaces between the [ ] and the letters...I had to space it here so it would show up right.

 

[Ridgerunner665]