Quick load request please.

[Michael C. Smith]

6.5 creed
Hornady brass fired water capacity 53.3
Nosler 140 solid base
2.950 total length
22inch barrel
H4350 & Rel 26
Thanks for any help I can get! Hope everyone is doing well

 

[DrMike]

6.5 creed
Hornady brass fired water capacity 53.3
Nosler 140 solid base
2.950 total length
22inch barrel
H4350 & Rel 26
Thanks for any help I can get! Hope everyone is doing well

The solid base is not in my data set. If it has been released, I have not received it. It would be possible to provide you with data for the BT or another similar pill.

 

[Michael C. Smith]

The solid base is not in my data set. If it has been released, I have not received it. It would be possible to provide you with data for the BT or another similar pill.

Dr. Mike the 140 bt should work. Thank you.

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler BalTip 26140
Useable Case Capaci: 45.161 grain H2O = 2.932 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   93    38.07   2457    1876   45336   9379     95.4    1.304
-09.0   95    38.49   2483    1916   46778   9486     95.8    1.285
-08.0   96    38.92   2509    1957   48266   9590     96.2    1.266
-07.0   97    39.34   2535    1998   49801   9690     96.6    1.248
-06.0   98    39.76   2562    2040   51386   9788     96.9    1.230
-05.0   99    40.19   2588    2082   53023   9883     97.3    1.213
-04.0  100    40.61   2614    2124   54712   9975     97.6    1.195  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  101    41.03   2640    2167   56456  10064     97.9    1.179  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  102    41.45   2666    2210   58258  10150     98.2    1.162  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  103    41.88   2692    2253   60119  10232     98.4    1.146  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  104    42.30   2718    2297   62042  10311     98.7    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  105    42.72   2744    2341   64030  10386     98.9    1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  106    43.15   2770    2386   66084  10457     99.1    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  107    43.57   2796    2431   68208  10525     99.3    1.083  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  108    43.99   2822    2476   70405  10589     99.4    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  109    44.42   2848    2521   72679  10649     99.6    1.053  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    104    42.30   2779    2400   67507  10239     99.8    1.090  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    104    42.30   2648    2179   56643  10261     96.6    1.175  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler BalTip 26140
Useable Case Capaci: 45.161 grain H2O = 2.932 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   97    43.56   2568    2050   42012  11370     97.9    1.328
-09.0   98    44.04   2602    2104   43642  11481     98.3    1.304
-08.0  100    44.53   2635    2158   45347  11583     98.7    1.281
-07.0  101    45.01   2668    2214   47128  11677     99.0    1.258
-06.0  102    45.50   2702    2269   48991  11763     99.3    1.235
-05.0  103    45.98   2735    2326   50943  11840     99.5    1.213
-04.0  104    46.46   2769    2383   52986  11907     99.7    1.191
-03.0  105    46.95   2802    2440   55128  11965     99.8    1.169  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  106    47.43   2835    2498   57373  12014     99.9    1.148  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  107    47.92   2868    2557   59730  12052    100.0    1.128  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  108    48.40   2901    2616   62203  12082    100.0    1.107  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  109    48.88   2934    2676   64802  12109    100.0    1.087  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  110    49.37   2967    2736   67532  12134    100.0    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  111    49.85   2999    2797   70406  12157    100.0    1.048  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    50.34   3032    2858   73433  12179    100.0    1.029  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  114    50.82   3065    2920   76623  12199    100.0    1.011  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    48.40   2979    2759   70357  11743    100.0    1.055  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    48.40   2803    2442   54937  12334     99.1    1.167  ! Near Maximum !

 

[Michael C. Smith]

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler BalTip 26140
Useable Case Capaci: 45.161 grain H2O = 2.932 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   97    43.56   2568    2050   42012  11370     97.9    1.328
-09.0   98    44.04   2602    2104   43642  11481     98.3    1.304
-08.0  100    44.53   2635    2158   45347  11583     98.7    1.281
-07.0  101    45.01   2668    2214   47128  11677     99.0    1.258
-06.0  102    45.50   2702    2269   48991  11763     99.3    1.235
-05.0  103    45.98   2735    2326   50943  11840     99.5    1.213
-04.0  104    46.46   2769    2383   52986  11907     99.7    1.191
-03.0  105    46.95   2802    2440   55128  11965     99.8    1.169  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  106    47.43   2835    2498   57373  12014     99.9    1.148  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  107    47.92   2868    2557   59730  12052    100.0    1.128  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  108    48.40   2901    2616   62203  12082    100.0    1.107  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  109    48.88   2934    2676   64802  12109    100.0    1.087  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  110    49.37   2967    2736   67532  12134    100.0    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  111    49.85   2999    2797   70406  12157    100.0    1.048  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    50.34   3032    2858   73433  12179    100.0    1.029  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  114    50.82   3065    2920   76623  12199    100.0    1.011  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    48.40   2979    2759   70357  11743    100.0    1.055  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    48.40   2803    2442   54937  12334     99.1    1.167  ! Near Maximum !

Thank You! My OAL is going to be 2.950 how much is that going to effect the data from the 2.800?

 

[DrMike]

It will make some difference, though it may not be as great as you would expect. That is what I get for posting this while distracted. My bad, but a good catch on your part.

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler BalTip 26140
Useable Case Capaci: 49.038 grain H2O = 3.184 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.950 inch = 74.93 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   91    40.23   2494    1933   45532  10033     96.2    1.301
-09.0   92    40.68   2520    1974   46948  10144     96.6    1.283
-08.0   93    41.12   2546    2016   48408  10251     96.9    1.264
-07.0   94    41.57   2573    2057   49913  10356     97.3    1.246
-06.0   95    42.02   2599    2099   51463  10458     97.6    1.229
-05.0   96    42.47   2625    2142   53061  10556     97.9    1.212
-04.0   97    42.91   2651    2185   54709  10652     98.2    1.195  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   98    43.36   2677    2228   56408  10743     98.4    1.178  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   99    43.81   2703    2271   58159  10832     98.7    1.162  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  100    44.25   2729    2315   59966  10916     98.9    1.145  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    44.70   2755    2359   61830  10997     99.1    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  102    45.15   2780    2403   63753  11074     99.3    1.114  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  103    45.59   2806    2448   65737  11148     99.4    1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  104    46.04   2832    2493   67785  11217     99.6    1.084  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  105    46.49   2857    2538   69900  11282     99.7    1.069  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  106    46.94   2883    2584   72083  11343     99.8    1.055  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    44.70   2814    2461   67142  10892     99.9    1.090  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    44.70   2685    2242   56563  10973     97.2    1.175  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

You might verify your maximum case capacity, overflow. It seems excessive to me.

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler BalTip 26140
Useable Case Capaci: 49.038 grain H2O = 3.184 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.950 inch = 74.93 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   94    45.90   2604    2108   42314  12076     98.5    1.331
-09.0   96    46.41   2637    2162   43925  12186     98.9    1.307
-08.0   97    46.92   2670    2216   45604  12287     99.2    1.284
-07.0   98    47.43   2703    2271   47359  12379     99.4    1.262
-06.0   99    47.94   2736    2327   49192  12462     99.6    1.240
-05.0  100    48.45   2769    2383   51106  12536     99.8    1.218
-04.0  101    48.96   2801    2439   53107  12601     99.9    1.196
-03.0  102    49.47   2834    2496   55199  12656    100.0    1.175  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  103    49.98   2866    2554   57389  12701    100.0    1.155  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  104    50.49   2898    2611   59676  12740    100.0    1.134  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    51.00   2930    2670   62079  12777    100.0    1.114  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  106    51.51   2962    2728   64596  12813    100.0    1.095  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  107    52.02   2994    2787   67233  12848    100.0    1.076  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  108    52.53   3026    2847   70000  12881    100.0    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  109    53.04   3058    2907   72904  12913    100.0    1.038  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  110    53.55   3090    2967   75957  12942    100.0    1.020  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    51.00   3006    2809   70406  12447    100.0    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    51.00   2836    2500   54690  13085     99.5    1.174  ! Near Maximum !

 

[TexasLife]

6.5 creed
Hornady brass fired water capacity 53.3
Nosler 140 solid base
2.950 total length
22inch barrel
H4350 & Rel 26
Thanks for any help I can get! Hope everyone is doing well

do you have a product number on that bullet?

 

[Michael C. Smith]

do you have a product number on that bullet?

I can look at the bag tonight. I looked on Nosler's page they were seconds. Look's like they have sold them all. I don't see them listed.

 

[Michael C. Smith]

You might verify your maximum case capacity, overflow. It seems excessive to me.

Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler BalTip 26140
Useable Case Capaci: 49.038 grain H2O = 3.184 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.950 inch = 74.93 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   94    45.90   2604    2108   42314  12076     98.5    1.331
-09.0   96    46.41   2637    2162   43925  12186     98.9    1.307
-08.0   97    46.92   2670    2216   45604  12287     99.2    1.284
-07.0   98    47.43   2703    2271   47359  12379     99.4    1.262
-06.0   99    47.94   2736    2327   49192  12462     99.6    1.240
-05.0  100    48.45   2769    2383   51106  12536     99.8    1.218
-04.0  101    48.96   2801    2439   53107  12601     99.9    1.196
-03.0  102    49.47   2834    2496   55199  12656    100.0    1.175  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  103    49.98   2866    2554   57389  12701    100.0    1.155  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  104    50.49   2898    2611   59676  12740    100.0    1.134  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    51.00   2930    2670   62079  12777    100.0    1.114  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  106    51.51   2962    2728   64596  12813    100.0    1.095  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  107    52.02   2994    2787   67233  12848    100.0    1.076  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  108    52.53   3026    2847   70000  12881    100.0    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  109    53.04   3058    2907   72904  12913    100.0    1.038  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  110    53.55   3090    2967   75957  12942    100.0    1.020  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    51.00   3006    2809   70406  12447    100.0    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    51.00   2836    2500   54690  13085     99.5    1.174  ! Near Maximum !

Ok I can check the water capacity again. Dr. Mike if you were going to start this load with the R26 where would you start? If you can refresh my memory on the barrel time numbers. Where would you expect to see the node and why?I would like to have this load run 2750 to 2850 or so. Thank you