Remington 700 Cdl SF?
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DrMike
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Spotty quality. They can be very good, or very poor. I've got friends that have purchased some that were fine rifles. I have others that curse them. Mine, a 700 CDL SF, gives me poor accuracy. If you enjoy working on rifles and fixing them, the 700 can be a fine rifle. If you want one that shoots out of the box, consider something else.
I hate to say it but Dr. Mike is right the newer Rems just seem to be hit and miss. I have been very lucky with them but I have a number of friends who have played and now sold them.
If your dad is right handed the Model 70 is a good looking rifle and does not have the accuracy problem that is popping up in the Remingtons
Blessings,
Dan
If your dad is right handed the Model 70 is a good looking rifle and does not have the accuracy problem that is popping up in the Remingtons
Blessings,
Dan
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Teknys
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I have a CDL SS in a 243. I didn't even shoot it in the walnut stock. I'm having too take out material of the barrel channel in the new laminated stock I dropped it into but the CDL SS it's self is fine. I did shim the action bed to verify before I started this and it did shoot very well! 0.6" to 0.75" 3 shot groups. That was with 95BT.
I've had in my hands and loaded 4 of the 700s in the last three years, 2 came out of the box just shooting the lights out. The other two (CDL SS) are a little finicky but we have got there now (new stock, trigger and lots time on the reloading bench).
I've had in my hands and loaded 4 of the 700s in the last three years, 2 came out of the box just shooting the lights out. The other two (CDL SS) are a little finicky but we have got there now (new stock, trigger and lots time on the reloading bench).
CatskillCrawler
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A co-worker has the 7mmRM version, 2009 or 2010?, and it shoots extremely well. Beautiful wood and the fit is perfect.
I'm close to 4 Rem 700s which have been purchased in the last 4 years and they all are excellent shooters. This CDL SF in 7mmRM, a Dick's Sporting Goods special run with choco-laminate stock in .270, a CDL in 25-06, and an SPS Varmint in .243.
It saddens me to hear of folks having problems or bad shooting results from Big Green. Doesn't make any sense in this extremely competitive market. There are too many stories to blow them off as the occasional bad rifle or typical WInchester hater-type tho.
I'm close to 4 Rem 700s which have been purchased in the last 4 years and they all are excellent shooters. This CDL SF in 7mmRM, a Dick's Sporting Goods special run with choco-laminate stock in .270, a CDL in 25-06, and an SPS Varmint in .243.
It saddens me to hear of folks having problems or bad shooting results from Big Green. Doesn't make any sense in this extremely competitive market. There are too many stories to blow them off as the occasional bad rifle or typical WInchester hater-type tho.
I agree catskill, as a lefty I have always disliked Winchester as they do not make a lefty. But I know 2 young guys one is shooting a 270win :wink: and it is under 1"moa out of the box using factory ammo and the other has a 300 I am not sure weather win mag or wsm but he loves it states it shoots the lights out.
I guess I should tell him he needs to adjust his scope :lol:
Blessings,
Dan
I guess I should tell him he needs to adjust his scope :lol:
Blessings,
Dan
dez -
I bought that rifle chambered in .280 Remington over the holidays; I regret to say that I have not yet had it to the range to break it in, much less do any load development. The wood-to-metal fit was pretty bad, with a huge offset on the right side of the barrel channel. It just so happened that Stockys had B&C Alaskans on sale so I picked one up and will likely never shoot the factory wood stock. The metal finish appears to be pretty good, no tooling marks, and the flutings are well done. Again, we'll have to see what it does at the bench, but I've had terrific luck with 700s to date. Even a couple newer ones...
Bottom line though is I bought the chambering in this instance and the rifle came with it. If he doesn't mind shooting a popular cartridge, the M70 is definitely worth a look. FN is doing a great job with them and they are priced very competitively with comparable 700s.
I bought that rifle chambered in .280 Remington over the holidays; I regret to say that I have not yet had it to the range to break it in, much less do any load development. The wood-to-metal fit was pretty bad, with a huge offset on the right side of the barrel channel. It just so happened that Stockys had B&C Alaskans on sale so I picked one up and will likely never shoot the factory wood stock. The metal finish appears to be pretty good, no tooling marks, and the flutings are well done. Again, we'll have to see what it does at the bench, but I've had terrific luck with 700s to date. Even a couple newer ones...
Bottom line though is I bought the chambering in this instance and the rifle came with it. If he doesn't mind shooting a popular cartridge, the M70 is definitely worth a look. FN is doing a great job with them and they are priced very competitively with comparable 700s.
Guy Miner
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"If you enjoy working on rifles and fixing them, the 700 can be a fine rifle. If you want one that shoots out of the box, consider something else."
You know... A few years ago before the closing of the old plant and the subsequent revival of the Model 70 by FN - the exact same words could have been said for the earlier Winchester Model 70's. They had a reputation for real spotty quality for the last few years of the old plant.
My .300 WSM Model 70 is a pretty good shooter, but before landing it I had a .25-06, a 7mm Rem mag, and a pair of .300 Win mag Model 70's - none of which shot well. Believe they were all late 1990's or early 2000's rifles. I was really trying to develop a liking for the "classic" Model 70 CRF rifles - and it didn't happen, because of the way those things shot.
Turned to the 700 CDL when they were pretty new, about 2004, and mine has been a good one. I remember thinking "Crud, I think I'll just go get a Remington. I know they shoot."
Since then, I'm not so sure. Scotty had big problems with his 700 CDL and I read about others on-line who haven't been happy with them. Also I don't like the massive recoil pad Remington is putting on the newer CDL's - it just looks out of place on an otherwise pretty good looking rifle. To me anyway.
I've worked with a couple of the newer Remington 700's - and haven't had a problem with them at all. Solid. Accurate. Slick actions. In particular a .270 Win hunting rifle and a .308 Win 700 LTR for the team. Both are good rifles.
From what I read online, it seems that Remington's quality isn't what it should be - but I can't say that's what I've found personally.
Regards, Guy
You know... A few years ago before the closing of the old plant and the subsequent revival of the Model 70 by FN - the exact same words could have been said for the earlier Winchester Model 70's. They had a reputation for real spotty quality for the last few years of the old plant.
My .300 WSM Model 70 is a pretty good shooter, but before landing it I had a .25-06, a 7mm Rem mag, and a pair of .300 Win mag Model 70's - none of which shot well. Believe they were all late 1990's or early 2000's rifles. I was really trying to develop a liking for the "classic" Model 70 CRF rifles - and it didn't happen, because of the way those things shot.
Turned to the 700 CDL when they were pretty new, about 2004, and mine has been a good one. I remember thinking "Crud, I think I'll just go get a Remington. I know they shoot."
Since then, I'm not so sure. Scotty had big problems with his 700 CDL and I read about others on-line who haven't been happy with them. Also I don't like the massive recoil pad Remington is putting on the newer CDL's - it just looks out of place on an otherwise pretty good looking rifle. To me anyway.
I've worked with a couple of the newer Remington 700's - and haven't had a problem with them at all. Solid. Accurate. Slick actions. In particular a .270 Win hunting rifle and a .308 Win 700 LTR for the team. Both are good rifles.
From what I read online, it seems that Remington's quality isn't what it should be - but I can't say that's what I've found personally.
Regards, Guy
DrMike
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Guy,
You are correct of the Winchester rifles coming out or the New Haven plant during the final years. Almost all I picked up required work to make them shoot well. Honestly, I wasn't all that upset to see the plant close. The quality had degenerated that badly, and there were better options available. However, when the SC plant opened and I saw what they were producing, to say I was pleased is understatement. Remington is sacrificing a great product for reasons that can only cost them dearly in the long run. They will have to do something drastic if they continue along this road. There is obviously a loyal base that want Remington to succeed, and I believe it fair to say that any rifle crank is sorry to see the quality deteriorate, even marginally, on what is an American institution.
You are correct of the Winchester rifles coming out or the New Haven plant during the final years. Almost all I picked up required work to make them shoot well. Honestly, I wasn't all that upset to see the plant close. The quality had degenerated that badly, and there were better options available. However, when the SC plant opened and I saw what they were producing, to say I was pleased is understatement. Remington is sacrificing a great product for reasons that can only cost them dearly in the long run. They will have to do something drastic if they continue along this road. There is obviously a loyal base that want Remington to succeed, and I believe it fair to say that any rifle crank is sorry to see the quality deteriorate, even marginally, on what is an American institution.
I am with Guy, I like the older CDL's like my Whelen and Guy's 25-06. The newer ones with the recoil pad would be fine if they shot. Mine didn't. I love the CDL's to be honest. Very good rifles and handle excellent, but I won't be burned again, so soon. Besides, I can buy a Featherweight or Sporter for less money than they are pushing CDL's for. Just don't make sense.
For the record, I like Remingtons and Winchesters, but I don't like crappy put together rifles and once you pull the stock on a wood stocked Remington of new, it isn't nice to the eyes. Not saying they won't shoot, but they could use some bedding work whoever is doing it.
I won't part with my Whelen. It shoots great and could be my most accurate rifle. I have shot elk, deer, bear and plenty of great groups with it. Their finishes aren't what they used to be either. My CDL seems to chip, scratch really easily. Again, it is a hunting rifle, so I don't really care, but an old Remmie would take more abuse.
Heck, I will likely be toting the Whelen again this year on opening day of the elk hunt!
For the record, I like Remingtons and Winchesters, but I don't like crappy put together rifles and once you pull the stock on a wood stocked Remington of new, it isn't nice to the eyes. Not saying they won't shoot, but they could use some bedding work whoever is doing it.
I won't part with my Whelen. It shoots great and could be my most accurate rifle. I have shot elk, deer, bear and plenty of great groups with it. Their finishes aren't what they used to be either. My CDL seems to chip, scratch really easily. Again, it is a hunting rifle, so I don't really care, but an old Remmie would take more abuse.
Heck, I will likely be toting the Whelen again this year on opening day of the elk hunt!
joelkdouglas
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I'm a big fan of my Remmy 700.
All I had to do to get it shooting like it is now is...change the trigger, stock, bedding, recoil lug, and barrel.
Nothing to it, really.
I do really like the 700s. The slim stocks, safeties, shape, all of it. I would have a difficult time buying any factory rifle that wasn't a 700. I do wish they shot better out of the box. I couldn't give up on mine because it was a present from my lovely bride.
I believe if I ever get this dream varmint gun I've thought about for years it'll have a Rem 700 action, unless I have the coin for a custom. But that will probably be the only Rem component.
All I had to do to get it shooting like it is now is...change the trigger, stock, bedding, recoil lug, and barrel.
Nothing to it, really.
I do really like the 700s. The slim stocks, safeties, shape, all of it. I would have a difficult time buying any factory rifle that wasn't a 700. I do wish they shot better out of the box. I couldn't give up on mine because it was a present from my lovely bride.
I believe if I ever get this dream varmint gun I've thought about for years it'll have a Rem 700 action, unless I have the coin for a custom. But that will probably be the only Rem component.
