scott could you please run a quick load for me?

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Jun 10, 2011
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Scott I know you had posted it before but could you please run a quick load for a 300 Norma with a 230 grain berger hybrid with H1000 and retumbo, and a 22x47 lapua with 75-80 Berger vld , and Amax with H 4350 PLEASE? THANK YOU.
 
I don't have the 230 Berger in my QL. I used the 240 SMK for comparison. Should get you started though.


Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 240, Sierra HPBT LR MatchK 9245
Useable Case Capaci: 96.563 grain H2O = 6.270 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 90 79.25 2614 3640 47848 12168 100.0 1.543
-09.0 91 80.13 2641 3718 49503 12240 100.0 1.519
-08.0 92 81.01 2669 3796 51224 12306 100.0 1.495
-07.0 93 81.89 2696 3874 53006 12370 100.0 1.471
-06.0 94 82.77 2724 3953 54854 12433 100.0 1.448 ! Near Maximum !
-05.0 95 83.65 2751 4033 56770 12495 100.0 1.426 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 96 84.53 2778 4112 58750 12556 100.0 1.404 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 97 85.41 2805 4193 60793 12616 100.0 1.382 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 86.29 2832 4273 62904 12675 100.0 1.361 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 99 87.17 2858 4354 65089 12733 100.0 1.341 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 100 88.05 2885 4436 67353 12790 100.0 1.320 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 101 88.93 2912 4518 69697 12846 100.0 1.300 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 102 89.81 2938 4600 72126 12901 100.0 1.281 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 103 90.69 2965 4683 74644 12955 100.0 1.262 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 91.57 2991 4767 77254 13007 100.0 1.243 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 105 92.45 3017 4851 79961 13058 100.0 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 88.05 2979 4728 81193 12350 100.0 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 88.05 2741 4005 53955 13348 99.5 1.447


Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 240, Sierra HPBT LR MatchK 9245
Useable Case Capaci: 96.563 grain H2O = 6.270 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 90 80.55 2588 3568 43920 12335 100.0 1.617
-09.0 91 81.45 2615 3643 45432 12408 100.0 1.592
-08.0 92 82.34 2641 3718 46998 12480 100.0 1.568
-07.0 93 83.24 2668 3793 48621 12552 100.0 1.543
-06.0 94 84.13 2694 3869 50303 12622 100.0 1.519
-05.0 95 85.03 2721 3945 52047 12692 100.0 1.496
-04.0 96 85.92 2747 4021 53857 12761 100.0 1.473
-03.0 97 86.82 2773 4098 55732 12829 100.0 1.450 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 87.71 2799 4175 57669 12896 100.0 1.428 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 99 88.61 2825 4253 59666 12961 100.0 1.407 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 89.50 2851 4331 61726 13026 100.0 1.385 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 101 90.40 2876 4409 63856 13090 100.0 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 102 91.29 2902 4488 66058 13153 100.0 1.344 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 103 92.19 2928 4568 68335 13215 100.0 1.324 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 93.08 2953 4648 70690 13276 100.0 1.305 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 105 93.98 2979 4728 73126 13336 100.0 1.285 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 89.50 2947 4627 75921 12600 100.0 1.278 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 89.50 2704 3896 48389 13652 100.0 1.531

I don't have the 22x37 Lapua in my QL either, what is the case capacity? Might be able to find something close.

Mike, is QL updating with some of the newer bullets or is it going to be a regular, yearly deal?
 
Its a 6.5x47 lapua case necked down 22 cal. it should be close to a 220 swift case in capacity, a little more than a 22-250 and a bit less than a 22-250 AI. THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THE 240 THAT WILL HELP.
 
Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid OTM G7 #30110
Useable Case Capaci: 95.999 grain H2O = 6.233 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 69.60 2324 2757 32151 10815 96.2 1.804
-18.0 82 71.34 2382 2897 34372 11106 97.2 1.758
-16.0 83 73.08 2440 3040 36742 11376 98.0 1.715
-14.0 85 74.82 2498 3186 39282 11624 98.7 1.660
-12.0 87 76.56 2555 3334 42002 11848 99.2 1.608
-10.0 89 78.30 2612 3485 44918 12046 99.6 1.557
-08.0 91 80.04 2669 3639 48047 12218 99.9 1.509
-06.0 93 81.78 2726 3794 51408 12361 100.0 1.462
-04.0 95 83.52 2782 3951 55020 12481 100.0 1.417 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 97 85.26 2837 4110 58905 12596 100.0 1.374 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 87.00 2892 4271 63086 12706 100.0 1.333 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 101 88.74 2946 4433 67556 12813 100.0 1.292 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 90.48 3000 4597 72351 12914 100.0 1.254 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 105 92.22 3054 4763 77505 13012 100.0 1.216 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 107 93.96 3108 4932 83055 13104 100.0 1.181 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 109 95.70 3161 5103 89038 13191 100.0 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 87.00 2994 4578 76399 12242 100.0 1.235 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 87.00 2735 3819 50588 13148 98.8 1.463
 
The most recent update included quite a few bullets that were not previously available. Unfortunately, several of the newer powders are not included yet.

Jeff, There are two Berger bullets listed (30428 and 30110). I ran one, but not the other. If it is incorrect, let me know and I'll push out the correct one.
 
mike i saw you listed the otm, the bullets i have are the other number. the hybrid has a higher bc and a different profile but i will also try the otm and thank you for that info. i always let the gun and the chronograph pick the bullet for me. did your update include any info on the lapua case? i am going to try and run the same powder i use in the 6.5 but backing it off a bit to start i am sure that process will produce the info i need. thanks again mike for the info. could you run the other bullet with retumbo as well for me please?
 
Only a couple of loads have information on cases. The system relies on measuring the actual case capacity. The default position is SAAMI or CIP standards. To get a precise measurement, deoxygenate water by letting it stand in an open container overnight. Tare a fired case (either plugging the flash hole with wax or leaving the spent primer in place), then add deoxygenated water with a pipette until you form a convex meniscus. That may be taken as case capacity. When you have this figure, it will allow very precise projections of charge weights.
 
Jeff, Perhaps this data will be more meaningful for you.

Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 95.294 grain H2O = 6.187 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 69.20 2319 2747 32036 10735 96.1 1.807
-18.0 82 70.93 2377 2886 34241 11025 97.1 1.763
-16.0 84 72.66 2435 3029 36605 11295 97.9 1.717
-14.0 86 74.39 2493 3174 39133 11543 98.6 1.663
-12.0 88 76.12 2551 3322 41844 11767 99.2 1.610
-10.0 90 77.85 2608 3473 44750 11966 99.6 1.560
-08.0 92 79.58 2665 3627 47868 12138 99.9 1.512
-06.0 94 81.31 2721 3782 51217 12283 100.0 1.465
-04.0 96 83.04 2777 3939 54815 12402 100.0 1.419 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 84.77 2833 4098 58689 12515 100.0 1.376 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 86.50 2887 4258 62860 12624 100.0 1.335 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 102 88.23 2942 4420 67331 12729 100.0 1.294 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 89.96 2996 4584 72121 12829 100.0 1.256 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 106 91.69 3050 4750 77272 12925 100.0 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 108 93.42 3103 4919 82820 13016 100.0 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 110 95.15 3157 5090 88804 13101 100.0 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 86.50 2990 4566 76187 12159 100.0 1.237 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 86.50 2730 3805 50418 13056 98.7 1.465

Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid G7 #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 95.271 grain H2O = 6.186 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 69.20 2319 2747 32047 10735 96.1 1.807
-18.0 82 70.93 2377 2887 34254 11025 97.1 1.762
-16.0 84 72.66 2435 3029 36618 11295 97.9 1.717
-14.0 86 74.39 2493 3175 39148 11542 98.6 1.663
-12.0 88 76.12 2551 3323 41861 11766 99.2 1.610
-10.0 90 77.85 2608 3474 44768 11965 99.6 1.560
-08.0 92 79.58 2665 3627 47889 12137 99.9 1.511
-06.0 94 81.31 2722 3783 51240 12281 100.0 1.464
-04.0 96 83.04 2778 3940 54841 12401 100.0 1.419 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 84.77 2833 4099 58716 12514 100.0 1.376 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 86.50 2888 4259 62891 12623 100.0 1.334 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 102 88.23 2942 4421 67366 12727 100.0 1.294 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 89.96 2996 4585 72160 12828 100.0 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 106 91.69 3050 4752 77316 12923 100.0 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 108 93.42 3104 4920 82868 13014 100.0 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 110 95.15 3157 5091 88857 13099 100.0 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 86.50 2991 4568 76226 12158 100.0 1.236 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 86.50 2730 3806 50443 13055 98.7 1.465
 
Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid G7 #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 95.271 grain H2O = 6.186 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 82 72.24 2359 2841 31556 11434 98.9 1.828
-18.0 84 74.05 2418 2986 33774 11679 99.5 1.782
-16.0 86 75.85 2477 3133 36148 11890 99.8 1.736
-14.0 88 77.66 2535 3282 38695 12066 100.0 1.682
-12.0 90 79.46 2592 3432 41429 12213 100.0 1.628
-10.0 92 81.27 2649 3584 44362 12355 100.0 1.577
-08.0 94 83.08 2705 3738 47529 12494 100.0 1.527
-06.0 96 84.88 2761 3892 50928 12628 100.0 1.479
-04.0 98 86.69 2816 4049 54589 12759 100.0 1.433 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 100 88.49 2870 4207 58538 12886 100.0 1.389 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 102 90.30 2924 4367 62795 13009 100.0 1.346 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 104 92.11 2978 4529 67348 13128 100.0 1.305 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 106 93.91 3031 4692 72227 13242 100.0 1.266 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 108 95.72 3084 4858 77467 13351 100.0 1.228 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 110 97.52 3137 5026 83100 13455 100.0 1.191 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 112 99.33 3190 5197 89164 13555 100.0 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 102 90.30 3025 4673 77591 12568 100.0 1.241 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 102 90.30 2769 3916 49246 13657 100.0 1.488
 
Thanks Mike for the info! can you cross reference the 6.5x47 case for capacity relative to the 22x47 on your program? If you can h4350 will be used.
 
Jeff, I don't have the 22X47 data on this program. I looked under 5.6 as well as 22. Does this cartridge go under another name?
 
Mike, no it doesn't its just a 6.5x47 lapua case necked down to .224, I am not sure if lapua ever endorsed it but I am assuming they didnt for the fact that my dies simply state 22x47.
 
Unfortunately, I don't have the data for the 22X47. There are certainly a number of strange (to me) cartridges included in the data base, and new ones are added each year.
 
No worries Mike, thanks for looking. I am going to start near max for the 22-250 and work up from there.
 
Looking at the velocity jump from h1000 to retumbo, I wonder what you'd get running the new rl 33?
 
Cartridge : .300 Norma Mag
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid G7 #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 95.294 grain H2O = 6.187 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.680 inch = 93.47 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder 33

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 79 76.00 2313 2733 30261 11834 90.7 1.874
-18.0 81 77.90 2378 2887 32502 12241 92.2 1.825
-16.0 83 79.80 2442 3046 34923 12632 93.6 1.778
-14.0 85 81.70 2507 3211 37544 13003 94.8 1.728
-12.0 87 83.60 2573 3380 40378 13352 95.9 1.667
-10.0 89 85.50 2638 3554 43444 13676 96.9 1.611
-08.0 91 87.40 2703 3732 46719 13974 97.8 1.556
-06.0 93 89.30 2769 3915 50234 14244 98.5 1.504
-04.0 94 91.20 2834 4102 54020 14482 99.1 1.453
-02.0 96 93.10 2899 4292 58102 14687 99.5 1.404 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 98 95.00 2964 4486 62508 14858 99.8 1.358 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 100 96.90 3028 4683 67268 14992 100.0 1.312 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 102 98.80 3092 4883 72418 15092 100.0 1.269 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 104 100.70 3156 5085 77998 15183 100.0 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 106 102.60 3219 5291 84055 15267 100.0 1.187 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 108 104.50 3282 5500 90641 15345 100.0 1.148 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 98 95.00 3108 4934 77540 14238 100.0 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 98 95.00 2751 3866 48181 14737 95.1 1.516
 
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