Why not stick with our first rifle?

roysclockgun

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Dec 17, 2005
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I will celebrate my 73rd on Monday July 13, 2015. Looking back on over 55 years of deer hunting, I wonder about my *real* reasons for not just sticking with my first deer rifle. In 1964 when I came out of the Army, I did not have much cash to spend on a deer rifle. Pawn shops had US Model 1903 rifles, lined up and looking new for $30. That seemed pricey, so I bought a US Model 1917 for $15. I shortened the barrel, sheared off the rear sights and had a 4X $19 "Monkey Wards" scope installed. I honed my skills slaying groundhogs that first summer home and by deer season, I was confident that I could cleanly kill deer out to 250 yards, which was about the limit of any shots that I would get in my area. Most shots were under 100 yards, but on occasion, I caught a buck crossing a cut over corn field further out than 100 yards. The old 30-06 performed well. I picked my shots and didn't bring under fire any deer that I did not believe I could anchor with one shot. I had worked up a load for 150gr bullets that worked for me.
During the next three years, I took four bucks and countless groundhogs with that rifle. Then, I became more flush with disposable income and I coveted another rifle. I sold the M1917 for $100. After that, I never hunted with the same rifle for more than 3 years, before getting the itch to use something else. Another caliber. A magnum cartridge. A lighter package. For whatever reason I have been through countless rifles, both old and new and never did find one that I could not pass along, just to partly finance buying something different.
I did keep a Browning B78 in 7mmRemMag for quite a while, even after I replaced it with a Browning Stainless Stalker in 280Rem.
Of course, over the years, I got into hand loading. The 280 makes me happy. I have killed muley, pronghorn, wild pigs and white tail with that rifle. I love the way 7mm bullets fly.
That said, I have only taken two deer that the old M1917 in 30-06 may have had a problem hitting. Both were muley at over 400 yards. The cheap 4X scope on the M1917 may not have been enough to drop those deer at that range.
The only conclusion that I can make, is that most of us buy what we want and not what we need.
What was your first deer rifle and why did you get anything else?
Steve Ashe
 
M700 BDL 30-06. My second rifle was a M70 XTR 243 Win. I foolishly sold both of them.
Looking back, not sure why I did.

JD338
 
My first was my M70 XTR 7mm Rem Mag. It took a ton of woodchucks, a moose, caribou, black bear and a bunch of deer. All with a 4x Redfield on top. The same rifle is alive and well today as a 7mm Mashburn Super Magnum. I love it more than ever, but I did upgrade the scope to a FX3 6X with an M1 dial!

I agree with you though. There hasn't been anything I've hunted since that rifle wouldn't have taken care of.
 
I started hunting in '03 with a hand-me down Savage M99 in 300 Savage - got my first hog with it. The first rifle I ever bought was a Win M70 270WSM at the Lompoc, CA Wal-Mart almost 12 years ago. I still have both of these, but I pretty much don't use the M99 any more.
 
My first was a 30-06 Savage, I don't remember the model number. I bought it in 1992; it came with a cheap scope and a wood stock.

It was actually a very nice rifle compared to some of the tupperware that sells now. But, I became unemployed and sold it.

Since then, I've always wanted another 30-06. So, I bought a Ruger American this spring, which I've been less than pleased with. :/

I'm always on the hunt for the perfect rifle. I'm afraid that it doesn't exist, so we buy, sell & trade looking for perfection in an imperfect world.
 
There are hunters, and there are connoisseurs of the hunt. Hunters bring home meat for the table. Connoisseurs bring home firearms, always in pursuit of an undefinable perfection. My first rifle was a Winchester Featherweight chambered in 7RM. It was topped with a Zeiss Diavari 3-9X36 (I sold the scope a couple of years ago). I still have the rifle, though it doesn't get as much time afield as it should. Nothing has changed since I brought that Winchester home; it takes game cleanly and without drama. However, many rifles have found their way into my oversight since that time, each the ultimate for some particular game. I guess I lean more to the connoisseur definition.
 
My first rifle was a Remington 7400 in 30-06 purchased in 1981 (?). I used it for deer for several years, from middle school through med school and residency. Other rifles took its place over the years, and last year I took off the glossy factory stock and restocked it with a B&C fiberglass stock, bedding the stock to the front and rear of the action. My son used it for black bear hunting, and it actually shoots very accurately for a semi-auto. When I have time I'll finish working up a load for it and it will get used more often.

It still wears the Burris Fullview 2-7 scope I purchased the second year I owned it, but I removed the see-through mounts a few years ago and mounted it properly with a Leupold one piece base and rings.
 
A Topper 30-30 was my first, it had a horrible trigger and kicked like crazy. Second was an M1 Carbine- too weak for an all around rifle. Next was a genuine Mod 94 Commemorative "Classic" carbine. It was fine but not accurate past about 100 due to an oval chamber! An uncle gave me a stock 1917 enfield, but the military sights put hunting loads way too high at 100 and I never could figure how to adjust them down. I kept it for many years though. When I got of the Army( I'm about 10 years younger than you Roy!( P.S. I forgot to add that I bought a new BAR 7mm Rem mag, shot one deer with it, it was very heavy and a jammomatic; traded it for a Mod 870 Magnum and a Marlin 1894 .44 mag) Then, in 1977 I bought a Ruger 77 in .280, started handloading and went ape from there, ha. I enjoy rifles/handloading as much as hunting, sometimes I think even more. For me, I wanted to experience all I could, but I never accumulated for than a dozen at a time, often down to just a couple. When I went to Bible college I had the old ( by then fully sporterized) 1917 and a 4x Tasco scope. I didn't hunt that 3 years, but I did do a lot of handloading/experimenting and it kept me sane, ha. Right now I am focused on five. I also have had to sell guns to make ends meet, but I make it up later! ha. If I didn't trade/sell them I could have never afforded nor justified the ones I've had in the past 50 years myself!
 
My first rifle came home with me in 1991. After several trips just looking at different guns and getting the counter guy to pull ones from the back, I picked the one with the nicest wood. It was a Win M70 featherweight in 280. Paid $319 for it and Redfield rings and bases were included. Topped it with a cheap Bushnell 4x. I still have it, though now it sports a olive bell and Carlson stock supporting it's thin barrel.

Next came a Remington 7600 carbine in 30-06 that I fancied as a deer drive and thick woods rifle. The muzzle blast from that 18.5" barrel was tremendous. Though a fine rifle the blast, recoil and poor trigger on it did not make it a favorite. It became a loaner. I sold it to my nephew in exchange for his yearly $20 birthday gift.

On 9-11-2001 I bought a used Ruger No. 1 in 243. As a gander mountain employee, I got a good deal on it. Point of impact shifted badly after about 2 shots as the barrel heated up. Free floated the forearm this past winter and it shoots great now.

I've got a 308 Tikka Lite and a 30-06 Tikka hunter. They are smooth, great triggers and make me look like a much better shooter and reloader than I actually am. Only modification required is a better recoil pad and steel recoil lug. Don't quite understand why they come with aluminum lugs.

Lastly, my new Rem 783 that I'm hoping my daughter will use. I certainly could have stopped at the 280, but then I'd have nothing else to shoot at the range while waiting for the barrel to cool. I like all my current guns and enjoy shooting them, but I'll probably keep adding.
 
My first big game rifle was an ancient Marlin 30-30...which I still have. Would I still hunt with it? Maybe, but unlikely.

I've had a long string for big game rifles, some I wish I had back...but most served a purpose and I enjoyed them while I did.

I have noticed that the more I concentrate on hunting and less on shooting- the fewer rifles I buy. My last three were bought for friends and family to go hunting with me. I'm still content with my favorite rig after 9 years, which is unusual for me.
 
An 1895 7x57 that Granddad gave me. It's still in the safe and won't (hopefully) ever leave the family! I wanted a more modern scoped rifle in my late 20's so I bought a used model 700 ADL in 30-06 and put a Leupold on it. I really shouldn't have ever needed another big game rifle but somehow about 20 more showed up on my doorstep looking for a place to live. I can turn people away all day long....but a lonesome gun???
 
SJB358":13n4xy23 said:
My first was my M70 XTR 7mm Rem Mag. It took a ton of woodchucks, a moose, caribou, black bear and a bunch of deer. All with a 4x Redfield on top. The same rifle is alive and well today as a 7mm Mashburn Super Magnum. I love it more than ever, but I did upgrade the scope to a FX3 6X with an M1 dial!

I agree with you though. There hasn't been anything I've hunted since that rifle wouldn't have taken care of.

...well, my 1st rifle was a hand-me-down Model of 1895 .30-06, steel butt plate & all that was as tall as I was & weighed damnnear as much. First one I bought for myself (this is weird) was a Mod. 70 XTR 7mm RM w/ a Redfield 4X Widefield scope. Never shot a caribou w/ it, but I've shot moose, bear, elk, & deer w/ it & a few other 7's, ending w/ my current SS A-Bolt. Now I've got more rifles than I can shoot, each w/ it own suppossed little niche, but not as many as I really, truly need, because, well, just 'because'....
 
My first rifle was a Marlin 336 30-30...but it was short lived as my go to hunting rifle, I killed a couple deer with it, I still have it...but don't use it.

The rifle that really started it all for me was a Remington 700 BDL in 25-06...with this rifle I nearly, single handedly, drove the local groundhog population to extinction...this is the rifle that taught me how to shoot, I shot an insane number of rounds through it over the course of about 5 years, beginning when I was 11 (1984)...I do not still have it, but I did get the good out of it...when I sold it, it was so shot out that the first 4 inches of barrel after the throat didn't have any visible rifling left...I sold it to the gunsmith that I took it to to figure out why it wouldn't shoot as good as it once did and went straight to the store and ordered an ADL to replace it...and so it goes...
 
My first rifle was a hand-me-down Savage 99 EG in .300 Savage that my Grandfather had purchased at the Dayville Mercantile for about 80.00 brand new in 1941ish. When he died in 1969 it became my Dad's rifle. He retired it about 1980 (replacing it with a 99E in .308) and kept it for me to use when I got old enough.

By the time it got to me it had been well used. I shot my first of several deer, a few coyotes, and one cow elk with that gun. She is getting so worn out that I don't like to shoot her much anymore.

When I was 18 I bought a Winchester Model 70 Classic Stainless in .30-06 at Ace Hardware in John Day. It came with the prettiest factory Walnut stock I had (have) ever seen.

I have used both factory and handloads with this gun and the only bullets I ever had disappoint me were the old style 150 grain Barnes X-Bullets. They weren't opening but just going right on through it seemed. I switched to Nosler and have never had an issue. Along the way have used Sierra, Hornady, and Speer bulelts as well as Remington and Winchester Factory loads.

I almost sold it once but then came to my senses thanks to my Dad mentioning some thing like, "...everything you've ever shot at with that gun has died. Why in the hell would you ever sell a gun like that?" Good old Dad.

I still have it and use it every year. I have had several different scopes on it over the years but have A VX2 3x9x40 on it now, about as standard as they come. Couldn't be happier.

I've owned several .270s, several large-cased magnums, etc. but the .30-06 has endured and is the one I keep reaching for time after time to go fill the freezer. I expect when I am 73, she will still look and shoot better than I and keep being the one I grab to go take care of business.

Thanks for sharing your stories everyone, they are quite enjoyable.

FJ4E
 
wildgene":d7nhbmt7 said:
SJB358":d7nhbmt7 said:
My first was my M70 XTR 7mm Rem Mag. It took a ton of woodchucks, a moose, caribou, black bear and a bunch of deer. All with a 4x Redfield on top. The same rifle is alive and well today as a 7mm Mashburn Super Magnum. I love it more than ever, but I did upgrade the scope to a FX3 6X with an M1 dial!

I agree with you though. There hasn't been anything I've hunted since that rifle wouldn't have taken care of.

...well, my 1st rifle was a hand-me-down Model of 1895 .30-06, steel butt plate & all that was as tall as I was & weighed damnnear as much. First one I bought for myself (this is weird) was a Mod. 70 XTR 7mm RM w/ a Redfield 4X Widefield scope. Never shot a caribou w/ it, but I've shot moose, bear, elk, & deer w/ it & a few other 7's, ending w/ my current SS A-Bolt. Now I've got more rifles than I can shoot, each w/ it own suppossed little niche, but not as many as I really, truly need, because, well, just 'because'....

Great minds run on the same track! :lol:
 
My first rifle was a 336 Marlin 30-30 never killed anything with it and it wasn't the best rifle in the world since it would key hole with Winchester ammo. I picked up a M43 Winchester in 22 Hornet and it would bring home the bacon,wish I still had it but that's another story. I bought a used M725 Remington in 30-06 and killed a lot of deer and ground hogs with it. Shot it so much I wore the throat out and had it rebarreled to 257 Roberts killed a lot of deer with it and it's still killing ground hogs. Both a Ruger M77 tang safety 30-06 because I liked the way the 30-06 would kill deer and the 257 was reserved for varmints. Everyone knows the story on the 35 Whelen and the 35 Whelen Imp and hope to kill a deer with one of them this year.
 
Dad raised me shooting the .30-06 Model of 1917, and in 1974 he gave me a brand new 6mm Rem 700 BDL.

My youngest son still hunts with both those rifles, and of course I take them to the range for a nostalgia trip now and again. Both are still shooting quite well. I'd hunt with either in a heartbeat, if my doggone son would let go of either during hunting season...

Been thinking that if this neck/spine injury makes me give up the .375's, I'll grab that old .30-06 and use it for big bear or moose, should I ever actually go after them...

Dad told me that the .30-06 was all the rifle I'd ever need in North America, and looking back on 40+ years of hunting, he was right.

Guy
 
My first rifle was a Model 88 in .243 Winchester.
Since then I've been through many rifles as a connoisseur but as I become more of a hunter I reach for the 30-06 or the .338 Win Mag depending on the circumstances.
I'll still look to acquire a fine rifle or three but for North America I'm set.

Vince

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Like any hobby that people ride hard,I think we develop a natural curiosity about rifles and cartridges and a desire to know how one combination stacks up against the others. We try to find a system that works for us and under the conditions that we hunt most.

My first was a Winchester 30/06 but I have been through a lot of rifles and cartridges since then. I could have stopped right there but I would not have had as much fun.
 
Exactly - I could have kept the .30-06 for "big game" and the 6mm Rem for all my varmint & coyote hunting (does a fine job on deer as well) and a .22 for plinking & small game.

But... then I would have missed out on all those other really cool rifles & cartridges I've messed with over the years...

Guy
 
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