...Unicorn tears & a QL req. 6.5CM 130gr AB RL17...

wildgene

wildgene

Handloader
Jul 4, 2011
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...since unicorn tears are easier to find around here than any ABLR, I've despaired of find any for the Creedmoor, & plan on working w/ the 130gr. & 140gr. AB's, & 130gr. Sierra HPBT GK to work up a "hunting" load. The 140gr. AMax startled the hell out of me last year when I had to shoot a doe twice....
 
...preliminary test loads @ 200yds...



...opinions on the 130gr. AB's??? Set @ COAL, a grain below max...


 
Sorry...I saw this yesterday but forgot to do it...

Code: 
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 130, Nosler AccuBond 56902
Useable Case Capaci: 47.857 grain H2O = 3.107 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.820 inch = 71.63 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

27 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP                          108.5     50.0     3.24    3050    99.3    62000   11424   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    110.0     49.6     3.21    3025    96.6    61692   11522   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     51.6     3.34    3003    94.9    60972   11494   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       108.2     49.0     3.18    3003    96.9    62000   11117   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  97.5     45.1     2.92    3000   100.0    62000   10101   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     49.1     3.18    2999    98.2    60966   11138   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        109.1     48.6     3.15    2986    96.8    62000   11001   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     109.6     52.6     3.41    2977    98.7    62000   10637   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     102.2     46.5     3.02    2965    99.7    62000   10361   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 106.7     47.1     3.05    2963    98.2    62000   10608   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        105.9     46.5     3.01    2960    98.1    62000   10521   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      96.5     45.0     2.92    2959    99.3    62000   10357   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        96.5     45.0     2.92    2959    99.3    62000   10357   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          101.7     44.4     2.88    2946   100.0    62000    9933   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     98.8     44.5     2.88    2945   100.0    62000   10064   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      101.0     44.6     2.89    2943   100.0    62000    9901   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          101.1     46.0     2.98    2935    97.9    62000   10302   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           106.7     45.1     2.92    2928   100.0    62000    9713   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   107.6     48.0     3.11    2926    96.1    62000   10344   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    91.9     43.2     2.80    2917   100.0    62000    9444   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            91.6     40.4     2.62    2911   100.0    62000    9453   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     48.0     3.11    2911    97.2    55387   10909   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             104.9     48.8     3.16    2911    97.9    62000   10033   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      110.0     48.5     3.14    2908    99.6    61037    9905   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                104.4     44.6     2.89    2906   100.0    62000    9126   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  92.4     40.8     2.64    2904   100.0    62000    9423   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          92.8     41.0     2.65    2901   100.0    62000    9347   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        93.7     42.2     2.74    2898   100.0    62000    9568   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      103.8     44.8     2.90    2896    98.8    62000    9761   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           101.9     44.7     2.90    2895    98.9    62000    9744   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       94.2     42.0     2.72    2891   100.0    62000    9204   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            94.4     40.9     2.65    2886   100.0    62000    9081   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        95.4     42.7     2.77    2873    98.8    62000    9610   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     50.4     3.26    2871    95.5    56003   10578   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     47.2     3.06    2870    95.3    58128   10174   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     47.2     3.06    2870    95.1    53642   10726   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                         94.8     40.6     2.63    2868   100.0    62000    9099   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      95.1     40.6     2.63    2868   100.0    62000    9099   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            95.7     39.9     2.58    2859   100.0    62000    8911   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            91.7     37.8     2.45    2854   100.0    62000    8439   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     48.3     3.13    2850    99.1    49853   10734   1.245
 
Code: 
 Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler AccuBond 39457
Useable Case Capaci: 47.191 grain H2O = 3.064 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.820 inch = 71.63 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

28 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP                          107.0     48.6     3.15    2944    99.7    62000   11226   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    108.7     48.3     3.13    2928    97.5    62000   11405   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    109.0     50.4     3.27    2918    96.1    62000   11439   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 109.0     47.9     3.11    2909    98.9    62000   11012   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       106.9     47.8     3.10    2904    97.7    62000   10992   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        107.7     47.4     3.07    2888    97.6    62000   10887   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  96.0     43.8     2.84    2887   100.0    62000    9869   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     108.3     51.3     3.32    2881    99.2    62000   10496   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.3     45.8     2.97    2860    98.7    62000   10454   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     100.7     45.3     2.93    2858    99.9    62000   10155   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        104.6     45.2     2.93    2858    98.7    62000   10374   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     47.3     3.07    2855    98.3    58269   10889   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        95.1     43.8     2.84    2853    99.6    62000   10159   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      95.1     43.8     2.84    2853    99.6    62000   10159   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     97.4     43.3     2.80    2837   100.0    62000    9833   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          100.2     43.1     2.79    2837   100.0    62000    9700   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       99.5     43.3     2.81    2834   100.0    62000    9662   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           99.7     44.8     2.90    2832    98.5    62000   10156   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   106.3     46.7     3.03    2828    96.9    62000   10241   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     49.7     3.22    2823    97.1    58665   10607   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           105.2     43.8     2.84    2820   100.0    62000    9485   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     46.5     3.01    2818    96.7    56219   10754   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      108.9     47.4     3.07    2816    99.9    62000    9731   1.212  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     46.5     3.01    2812    96.8    60843   10195   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             103.6     47.5     3.08    2811    98.6    62000    9906   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    90.6     42.0     2.72    2808   100.0    62000    9223   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            90.2     39.3     2.54    2801   100.0    62000    9224   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     47.6     3.08    2797    99.8    52354   10628   1.258
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                102.9     43.3     2.81    2796   100.0    62000    8915   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  91.1     39.6     2.57    2794   100.0    62000    9195   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      102.4     43.6     2.82    2794    99.3    62000    9600   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           100.5     43.5     2.82    2793    99.3    62000    9581   1.192  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          91.5     39.8     2.58    2791   100.0    62000    9124   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        92.4     41.1     2.66    2791   100.0    62000    9347   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     47.3     3.07    2783    98.8    60113    9687   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       92.8     40.8     2.64    2781   100.0    62000    8988   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            93.0     39.8     2.58    2777   100.0    62000    8867   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.2     41.6     2.69    2772    99.3    62000    9448   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     45.9     2.97    2766    97.4    60739    9638   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      93.9     39.5     2.56    2761   100.0    62000    8890   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 130, Sierra HP GK 1728
Useable Case Capaci: 50.162 grain H2O = 3.257 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.820 inch = 71.63 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

28 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP                          106.8     51.5     3.34    3069    99.5    62000   11855   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    108.4     51.2     3.32    3052    97.1    62000   12013   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    108.7     53.4     3.46    3041    95.6    62000   12032   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 108.7     50.8     3.29    3034    98.7    62000   11616   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       106.7     50.7     3.28    3029    97.4    62000   11593   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  95.8     46.5     3.01    3016   100.0    62000   10466   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        107.5     50.3     3.26    3013    97.3    62000   11474   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     108.0     54.4     3.53    3004    99.0    62000   11075   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.1     48.6     3.15    2984    98.5    62000   11034   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     50.3     3.26    2984    98.1    58756   11498   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     100.5     48.0     3.11    2984    99.8    62000   10748   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        104.4     48.0     3.11    2983    98.4    62000   10954   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        94.9     46.4     3.01    2979    99.5    62000   10757   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      94.9     46.4     3.01    2979    99.5    62000   10757   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          100.1     45.8     2.97    2964   100.0    62000   10292   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     97.2     45.9     2.97    2963   100.0    62000   10426   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       99.3     45.9     2.98    2960   100.0    62000   10260   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           99.5     47.5     3.08    2957    98.3    62000   10724   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     52.8     3.42    2952    96.8    59169   11190   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   106.1     49.6     3.21    2951    96.6    62000   10793   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     49.4     3.20    2946    96.4    56639   11352   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           105.0     46.5     3.01    2945   100.0    62000   10066   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     49.4     3.20    2941    96.5    61280   10762   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      108.7     50.3     3.26    2939    99.8    62000   10300   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    90.5     44.6     2.89    2935   100.0    62000    9792   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             103.4     50.4     3.27    2933    98.3    62000   10449   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            90.1     41.7     2.70    2929   100.0    62000    9803   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     50.6     3.28    2923    99.7    52786   11242   1.213
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                102.7     46.0     2.98    2923   100.0    62000    9467   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  90.9     42.0     2.72    2922   100.0    62000    9772   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          91.4     42.2     2.74    2919   100.0    62000    9694   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      102.2     46.2     3.00    2918    99.1    62000   10156   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           100.3     46.1     2.99    2918    99.1    62000   10138   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        92.3     43.6     2.83    2917   100.0    62000    9925   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     50.3     3.26    2911    98.7    60595   10245   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       92.7     43.3     2.81    2908   100.0    62000    9545   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            92.9     42.3     2.74    2905   100.0    62000    9424   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.1     44.1     2.86    2896    99.1    62000   10002   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     48.8     3.16    2893    97.1    61138   10185   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      93.7     41.9     2.72    2888   100.0    62000    9441   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
 
Gene, set that 130 AB between .050 and .1 and reshoot. I will not speak in absolutes but I've not had the ABs of any weight or caliber shoot for beans closer than .050", at least not consistently good.

I'm digging that CM though. I think I'd be talked into one of those before the 325! :twisted:
 
SJB358":wgloo8mt said:
I'm digging that CM though. I think I'd be talked into one of those before the 325! :twisted:
Click to expand...

A veritable blow to the ego. Why not both? I have them!

Gene, looking real promising. Though he is being a bit obstinate about the 325 WSM, Scotty is bang on concerning the ABs.
 
Nice shooting. I have been eyeing having a 6.5 creed built down the line in a lightweight hunting configuration. They are tac drivers and would make a dandy whitetail rifle.
 
...Thanks, RR, 'preciate that...

...Scotty's still kinda young, Dr. Mike, but I have hopes that before to long he'll figger out a rifle doesn't have to maim & disfigure you to be good... :mrgreen:

...I don't have any problem using the Sierra HPBT GameKings, they tend to be pretty easy to find & very accurate in most of my rifles, & more importantly, they do just exactly what they were designed for when it comes to terminal performance, but they have a relatively low BC so they drift. Around here, anything that reduces the guesswork when it comes to windage is a good thing, I'm hoping to gain a few inches less drift w/ the AB's, if I can get 'em to shoot. Looking back @ those targets, the 140gr. AB's are well under MOA, which is fine for hunting, but that rifle has produced a lot of groups under a 1/2" @ 200yds, so I'm probably being a little finicky... :roll:

...I believe in the Creedmoor, they put a lot of thought into when they designed it (other than the .30 TC parent case). It's becoming more popular, more ammo, cases, & accessories are available every year, & it's good, clean fun to shoot after years of magnums...
 
Ha! Maimed! Nah, not yet. Take more than some silly rifle to maim me!

I dig that 6.5 CM a bunch. Really was planning on a 6.5 Predator. Gotta look at glass though. Hard to stay the course when I see stuff like that though.
 
Looks like RL 17 has potential. I've been using Ramshot Hunter and the 140 CC. I have some 129ABLRs but I haven't had a chance to load any yet.
 
...anyone know how I could get a screen capture on the data above???
 
On a computer...put what you want into view...press the "print screen" button on the top left of your keyboard....then open the "paint" program on your computer....then click on "paste" in the top right of the paint screen...then close paint via the red x...select save.
 
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