264/143 ELDX

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remingtonman_25_06

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Nov 17, 2005
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New 264 and trying out the 143 ELDX. Have H4831,H1000, and Retumbo on hand. Anyone have any recipes or idea on good place to start with the above? 26" 8 twist bartlein on a model 70. Maybe even a QL if someone wants to run it. Thanks!
 
The ELDX isn't in QuickLoad yet so I ran the 140 Amax. Should be close. Start low.
Cool cartridge and really like the barrel choice. Should be a dandy.

Cartridge : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet : .264, 140, Hornady A-MAX 26332
Useable Case Capaci: 75.056 grain H2O = 4.873 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4831 SC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.795% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-08.0 83 57.94 2830 2489 46602 12043 98.1 1.439
-07.2 84 58.44 2852 2529 47734 12136 98.3 1.423
-06.4 84 58.94 2875 2570 48892 12226 98.6 1.407
-05.6 85 59.44 2898 2611 50077 12313 98.8 1.391
-04.8 86 59.94 2921 2652 51290 12397 98.9 1.376
-04.0 86 60.44 2944 2694 52531 12479 99.1 1.360
-03.2 87 60.94 2967 2736 53800 12558 99.3 1.345 ! Near Maximum !
-02.4 88 61.44 2989 2778 55100 12633 99.4 1.330 ! Near Maximum !
-01.6 89 61.94 3012 2820 56429 12706 99.5 1.315 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 89 62.44 3034 2862 57791 12776 99.6 1.301 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 90 62.94 3057 2905 59184 12842 99.7 1.287 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 91 63.44 3079 2947 60610 12905 99.8 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
+01.6 91 63.94 3101 2990 62070 12965 99.9 1.259 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4 92 64.44 3124 3033 63565 13022 99.9 1.245 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 93 64.94 3146 3077 65096 13075 100.0 1.231 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 94 65.44 3168 3120 66663 13125 100.0 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 90 62.94 3120 3027 64274 12651 100.0 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 90 62.94 2981 2762 54107 12877 98.4 1.340 ! Near Maximum !
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Code: 
Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 140, Hornady A-MAX 26332
Useable Case Capaci: 75.056 grain H2O = 4.873 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.699% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-07.0   96    66.65   2957    2719   47068  13271    100.0    1.433
-06.3   97    67.15   2980    2760   48228  13315    100.0    1.417
-05.6   97    67.65   3002    2801   49422  13358    100.0    1.401
-04.9   98    68.15   3024    2843   50645  13401    100.0    1.385
-04.2   99    68.65   3046    2884   51903  13444    100.0    1.370
-03.5   99    69.15   3068    2926   53190  13486    100.0    1.354  ! Near Maximum !
-02.8  100    69.65   3090    2967   54516  13527    100.0    1.339  ! Near Maximum !
-02.1  101    70.15   3111    3009   55881  13568    100.0    1.324  ! Near Maximum !
-01.4  102    70.65   3133    3051   57279  13609    100.0    1.309  ! Near Maximum !
-00.7  102    71.15   3154    3093   58717  13649    100.0    1.295  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  103    71.65   3176    3135   60195  13688    100.0    1.280  ! Near Maximum !
+00.7  104    72.15   3197    3178   61713  13727    100.0    1.266  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4  104    72.65   3219    3221   63274  13765    100.0    1.252  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.1  105    73.15   3240    3263   64877  13803    100.0    1.238  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.8  106    73.65   3261    3306   66528  13840    100.0    1.225  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.5  107    74.15   3282    3349   68226  13877    100.0    1.211  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    103    71.65   3244    3272   67513  13420    100.0    1.224  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    103    71.65   3091    2969   53458  14014    100.0    1.345  ! Near Maximum !

Code: 
Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 140, Hornady A-MAX 26332
Useable Case Capaci: 75.056 grain H2O = 4.873 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.724% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-07.2   94    64.12   2928    2664   48245  12855     99.3    1.406
-06.5   94    64.62   2951    2707   49465  12924     99.5    1.389
-05.8   95    65.12   2974    2750   50718  12989     99.6    1.373
-05.1   96    65.62   2998    2793   52005  13050     99.7    1.357
-04.3   97    66.12   3021    2837   53328  13107     99.8    1.341  ! Near Maximum !
-03.6   97    66.62   3044    2881   54688  13160     99.9    1.326  ! Near Maximum !
-02.9   98    67.12   3067    2925   56084  13209     99.9    1.311  ! Near Maximum !
-02.2   99    67.62   3090    2969   57521  13253    100.0    1.296  ! Near Maximum !
-01.4  100    68.12   3113    3013   58997  13293    100.0    1.281  ! Near Maximum !
-00.7  100    68.62   3136    3058   60514  13329    100.0    1.266  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    69.12   3159    3102   62078  13364    100.0    1.252  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.7  102    69.62   3182    3147   63684  13399    100.0    1.237  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.4  102    70.12   3204    3192   65335  13433    100.0    1.223  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.2  103    70.62   3227    3237   67036  13466    100.0    1.209  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.9  104    71.12   3250    3283   68782  13499    100.0    1.196  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.6  105    71.62   3272    3328   70587  13532    100.0    1.182  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    69.12   3229    3241   68830  13080    100.0    1.200  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    69.12   3073    2935   55725  13603     99.5    1.310  ! Near Maximum !

Should be something around 66.4 or so with H1000 if the burn rate is close. 70 to 70.1 on the Retumbo, 61.5 with the H4831. All depending on what burn rates you find though. Just guesses but will be interested in what you find.
 
Awesome!! Thank you sir for the quick reply, very helpful. Will definitely post some results. Waiting on base/rings and should be shooting in a couple weeks.
 
I've got the ELDX's in mine . Dewey's info is very close , close enough to go by .

Cartridge : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 75.002 grain H2O = 4.870 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4831

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 76 50.96 2499 1982 33793 10595 94.0 1.682
-18.0 78 52.23 2558 2077 35964 10900 95.0 1.642
-16.0 80 53.51 2616 2173 38264 11192 96.0 1.596
-14.0 82 54.78 2675 2272 40702 11471 96.8 1.549
-12.0 83 56.06 2733 2372 43284 11735 97.5 1.505
-10.0 85 57.33 2791 2474 46020 11984 98.2 1.461
-08.0 87 58.60 2849 2578 48918 12216 98.7 1.419
-06.0 89 59.88 2907 2683 51990 12430 99.2 1.379
-04.0 91 61.15 2964 2789 55247 12625 99.5 1.340 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 93 62.43 3021 2897 58701 12800 99.8 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 95 63.70 3077 3006 62366 12954 99.9 1.267 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 97 64.97 3133 3116 66256 13087 100.0 1.232 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 99 66.25 3188 3227 70389 13205 100.0 1.199 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 100 67.52 3243 3339 74783 13320 100.0 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 102 68.80 3297 3452 79458 13431 100.0 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 104 70.07 3352 3567 84436 13538 100.0 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 95 63.70 3187 3224 72976 12540 100.0 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 95 63.70 2918 2703 51779 12970 96.9 1.378




Cartridge : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 75.002 grain H2O = 4.870 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 83 57.52 2534 2040 30966 11924 97.4 1.738
-18.0 85 58.96 2601 2148 33166 12229 98.3 1.692
-16.0 87 60.40 2667 2258 35529 12501 99.0 1.647
-14.0 89 61.83 2733 2371 38067 12737 99.6 1.601
-12.0 91 63.27 2798 2486 40797 12934 99.9 1.547
-10.0 93 64.71 2862 2601 43738 13090 100.0 1.497
-08.0 95 66.15 2926 2719 46903 13223 100.0 1.449
-06.0 97 67.59 2989 2837 50316 13352 100.0 1.402
-04.0 99 69.02 3051 2956 53998 13476 100.0 1.357 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 101 70.46 3113 3076 57975 13597 100.0 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 103 71.90 3174 3198 62273 13713 100.0 1.273 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 105 73.34 3234 3321 66929 13824 100.0 1.233 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 108 74.78 3294 3445 71936 13931 100.0 1.195 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 110 76.21 3354 3571 77318 14032 100.0 1.158 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 112 77.65 3413 3698 83118 14128 100.0 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 114 79.09 3472 3828 89379 14219 100.0 1.088 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 103 71.90 3293 3443 77287 13231 100.0 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 103 71.90 2989 2836 48930 14359 99.7 1.410


Cartridge : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 75.002 grain H2O = 4.870 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 55.04 2494 1975 31417 11107 94.0 1.719
-18.0 82 56.42 2558 2078 33607 11441 95.2 1.673
-16.0 85 57.79 2623 2185 35959 11755 96.3 1.628
-14.0 87 59.17 2688 2293 38479 12047 97.3 1.579
-12.0 89 60.54 2752 2405 41184 12316 98.1 1.529
-10.0 91 61.92 2816 2518 44088 12558 98.8 1.480
-08.0 93 63.30 2880 2634 47211 12773 99.3 1.433
-06.0 95 64.67 2944 2752 50568 12959 99.7 1.388
-04.0 97 66.05 3007 2871 54184 13115 99.9 1.344 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 99 67.42 3070 2993 58083 13237 100.0 1.302 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 68.80 3132 3115 62290 13339 100.0 1.261 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 103 70.18 3194 3238 66835 13437 100.0 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 71.55 3255 3363 71741 13529 100.0 1.184 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 107 72.93 3315 3490 77012 13617 100.0 1.148 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 109 74.30 3376 3618 82701 13699 100.0 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 111 75.68 3436 3748 88852 13775 100.0 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 68.80 3255 3364 75768 12828 100.0 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 68.80 2946 2755 50021 13594 97.6 1.387
 
Dwh7271":f19kwt7j said:
Darn it Jim, I missed an update. Thanks!
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No problem , Dewey . I think I bought my latest update around the begining of this year . I'd like to get the new IMR powder info , quickload seems a little slow on this .
 
Yeah, I agree.
I have a bit of the new powder laid in and would like to see it in QL, especially the 4955 and 7977.
Just sent neconos a check for an update.
 
I do wish they'd get the new powders in. I've been using 7977 in my two 25-06's and really would like to have a better idea of what the load ranges might be.
 
Dwh7271":2hlthuz9 said:
Yeah, I agree.
I have a bit of the new powder laid in and would like to see it in QL, especially the 4955 and 7977.
Just sent neconos a check for an update.
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I just saw this . let me know if this newest update has that powder info . thanks
 
Those 140's sing in the 264. Might have to get mine back out and give it a run with R26 or 33. Right now I'm running R25 and haven't had the heart to change it up yet.
 
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