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https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthrea ... ow_femurs_ I like the .308 168gr NBT for my 308's and 06!

I like H1000 and 200gr NAB's myself. I get great speed and accuracy.

168 NBT: They work! Bear didn't move. Antelope don't like them either.

What he said! I got around 2700 fps with this and a 20' barrel.

I use 55 gr NBT and 25 grs of H335. The 40 grainers with Varget are great too and no pelt damage.

55 grain NBT and H335, AR Comp, or CFE are my vote.

I did not chrono but had a Ruger 1/8 and loaded Varget and RL15. Both shot well. I used WSR primers as well. Good luck.

I am loading 64 grs of IMR4350 and 180 NAb or H4831sc and 190 gr Berger with good luck.

I like the 200's for what it is. Mine loves H1000 and NAB 200 grainers. Either will work though.

I like H1000 or H4831SC for mine.

Here is a 165 NP recovered from the off side hide of a 3-year or so bull elk and a 30-06 around 2825fps or so and 100-yards. First one sailed through, this was the second shot.

All my rifles have always done best with jump using AB's. Start at 3.340 IMHO.....

I have really good luck with 200 gr NAB and H1000. The speed and accuracy is amazing.

Good stuff! For you that load in doors, how do you not get brass shavings and powder all over? As hot as it has been lately, the garage is sucking lately. Guess I could lay laminate or wood flooring.

I load to factory OAL and as said AB's like jump. I use IMR4350 from 20-90 degrees and it is not as scary as the internet leads you to believe.

I am only getting 2870 with IMR4350 and 180 NAB's, so to me this seems legit. Nosler doesn't list many loads over 2900 or usually they are 50-fps +/- faster than my reality. I wouldn't sweat it, shoot what is the most accurate. 69.5 they say 2985 but I haven't got there yet with 180's.

Have not tried 4451 but had great luck in the past with IMR4350 so it should give good results. Looking forward to hearing results and speeds.

It will be easier to use 7-08 brass. The .243 has a longer neck and I make it work, but first firing is a tight bolt close. It would be nice if there were more out there, looks like the 6.5 CM has taken off a little better.

Hell, this is my 300WSM. Good stuff!

Thanks coyote, was what i was thinking along with Sierra 142 data. I have a new jug of H4831 SC so we think alike. The creed is next!