Lighter Recoil...

[xphunter]

I can handle recoil, but I would prefer to not have to deal with it.
Especially when you shoot from weird field positions, a lighter kicking rig lets you get by with stuff, you can't do safely with a heavy kicker.
Even though they are loud, I wear really good hearing protection and I use some of the best muzzle brakes for hunting and practicing.

 

[wildcatter]

When I was young I have to admit, it was more about chest pounding, and brain washing. First thinking those big magnums were better because i could handle them without flinching like most, then believing they were magically better by giving marginally more speed???

Both BS, some guts flinch with a 223. And once I started actually shooting longer ranges, within reasonable hunting distance, i realized how useless a 100 even 200 fps realy is! Let alone how much heavier a rifle needed to be to make those same accurate shoots at ay yardage!

Today, the 22-250 700 HV, @ around 10 lbs is gone, and the 223 600 Mohawk with light barrel at under 7lbs seem to do anything on the same varmint out 300 to 350 yards that 250 did.

The 30/06 700 ADL is gone as my deer rifle, and an even quicker killing, less meat destroying 257 Roberts does everything even better, and way less bark and recoil. Plus it is every bit as flat shooting, and more accurate in the lighter rifle.

Then the big gun, by by 338 WM, my Sinclair built 700 Remington on a McMillan stock @ around 8.5 lbs. Today the 338/06AI does everything it did, in a 700 SS action in a Carbon Fiber Peak 44 Blacktooth stock, at a pound less, which recoils even less beyond belief partly because of the stock. But with less than 150 fps differance, better accuracy, proably due to less reciol shooting from field positions, out 400 yards the /06 version is a much better choice.

Even my handguns are no longer 475 Linebaugh's and 454 Casul's. In favor of more enjoyable 45Colts, even with 340 grain bullets at 1270+ fps, enough to fully penetrate even Elk on a broadside propper shot. To the 480 Ruger with 410 grai bullets @ 1200+ fps, enough to pentrate most Bovine and dangerous game. The 100 to 150 fps at hangun range here is definetly a wash, for faster more accurate follow up shots, even though they hardly ever needed.

Nope today common sense has prevailed and for me at least, not just easier on me, but in most cases, more accurate, quicker killing, and a lot more enjoyable to carry arround, period.

 

[Griffbl]

100%! By the way is your Mohawk .223 re-chambered from a .222? I ask as I have a .222 in a 660 which has a 20" barrel I am considering re-chambering. Has a 1 in 14 twist which is plenty fast to stabilize anything through 55 grains. I shoot a .45 Colt some, and I would not hesitate to use a 300 ish grain bullet at more like a 1100. Even a 1000. At 50 yards, (my iron sight distance) It will shoot broadside through any bull Elk. Great comments. Have a great day!

 

[wildcatter]

100%! By the way is your Mohawk .223 re-chambered from a .222? I ask as I have a .222 in a 660 which has a 20" barrel I am considering re-chambering. Has a 1 in 14 twist which is plenty fast to stabilize anything through 55 grains. I shoot a .45 Colt some, and I would not hesitate to use a 300 ish grain bullet at more like a 1100. Even a 1000. At 50 yards, (my iron sight distance) It will shoot broadside through any bull Elk. Great comments. Have a great day!

No it is an excalibur barrel, well shot, i usually run the 6x45 barrel on the gun, 65 grain bullets in that 24" barrel run about 3350 fps and shoot .3 moa, both light sporter barrels, I had the 223 barrel cut to 20" just for a sping truck gun for groundhogs, using 47 grain hp @ over 3650 fps. Then back to the 6x45.

 

[Griffbl]

No it is an excalibur barrel, well shot, i usually run the 6x45 barrel on the gun, 65 grain bullets in that 24" barrel run about 3350 fps and shoot .3 moa, both light sporter barrels, I had the 223 barrel cut to 20" just for a sping truck gun for groundhogs, using 47 grain hp @ over 3650 fps. Then back to the 6x45. View attachment 27471

Gotcha. Thank you. Nice rig....mine is so clean i am going to keep it stock. and it is accurate also! but will just keep weights below the 60 grain threshold.

 

[wildcatter]

Gotcha. Thank you. Nice rig....mine is so clean i am going to keep it stock. and it is accurate also! but will just keep weights below the 60 grain threshold.

I agree with keeping a nice 660 in original configuration, I wouldn't alter it. Especially if it was in 222 Remington, the 20" barrel is the sweet spot in my opinion. Just enjoy owning a classic rifle and shoot it. Not a lot of them left like the one you have! Enjoy!