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Have him get some Hornady TAP 168 ELD-M's. They work great on tissue. This was TAP with the 168 A-Max at 350 yards about 12 years ago. 14" 308 Winchester pistol.

168 A-Max or ELD-M's are death on deer and hogs...I know a guy

I don’t have a problem with first focal plane reticles at 500 yards or at 1000 yards on steel or pd’s. If, I’m doing 1000 yard bench rest or F class then I for sure will be using a reticle in the second focal plane, and the Turrets will probably be 1/8 minute of angle clicks. Reticle...

240 grain XTP or a 240 grain Sierra Jacketed Hollow Point will kill WT’s. So will a lot of other bullets…

MOA is great. For hunting specifically, a regular plex reticle (SFP) with a good MOA Turret or a Ballistic turret will work great. IF you want to use the reticle for shot correction or holdovers or hold offs, go with a reticle in the FFP/First Focal Plane. If going with a FFP reticle, make sure...

Even for your daughter, I would encourage you to get the MOA turrets (Listed in 1/4 MOA increments/Lines?) for that Swaro scope. Budget for new scope?

"Friends don't let friends count clicks" 😇 :) Counting clicks is not good-There are better ways Either get a ballistic turret like I posted above for your scope...See if Kenton makes one for yours. Get a MOA turret cap (If you can)...OR...Get a different scope

@CurrentTX send me a PM and I will give you my cell # You can ask any question you want. Of course, you can ask all you want here as well.

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6.5 PRC Rear-Grip is done. I need to put a scope on it still. Center-Grip 7mm SAUM should be ready in the next 30-60 days. Both barrels are under 16"

Would love to have you

Posted all of that above to show what can be done with a short barreled fast twist center-fire specialty pistol....Do not let anyone's preconceived/false convictions keep you from trying whatever you want to try.

22GT Little less capacity than the Creed. https://forum.nosler.com/threads/just-a-fun-share.48382/#post-533290

Critters at night thread with my 22 Creed... https://forum.nosler.com/threads/texas-hunting-with-handguns.47960/ https://forum.nosler.com/threads/rock-chucks-again-next-week-in-the-mountains.47081/ Close brothers, 18" and sub 16" 22GT does great too...

Steel out to 1K, and I have killed a number of pd’s out to 500 yards or so with this rig as well, but no pics. Everything thing else besides rock chucks (from 150 to around to just under 500 yards), was from a standing position off of a tripod at night, using thermal.

Ballistic Turrets that would be functional for me.

If the turret on your rifle looks like the one to the right on the Swaro page, that would not be helpful for my uses.

My 16" 22 Creed runs 3154 fps. I am thinking he has a 13" and not a 14" barrel, at the worst with a 80 grain, he should be around 3050 fps. I don't know which bullet is best for his needs. I am guessing the 62 is going to be better for varmints, but that is for him to decide. The 80 grain works...