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Great thread. I did the intense cleaning barrel break-in my last couple rifles and I would like to avoid doing that again. Vince2's routine sounds pretty reasonable to me, but would love to hear everyone else's general cleaning routine - aside from any barrel break in?

I hear you, you have to make due with what you have. 19 was more accurate for me in lighter bullets, but 17 was faster, if I I recall. I don't think I tried 19 in the 180s though but 17 is my go to. What do you think of the bond strike, pretty similar to an accubond?

I'd try Reloder 17

Sorry, a hard question to ask. I'm asking if, given my specs if I could come anywhere near the lands and if the bullet would be seated too deeply and intrude into the powder too much. I guess I can figure out the last part given the bullet length, but not the first part without knowing "length...

Hey all, I have a SAKO A7 300 WSM. Longest COAL length I think I can get away with is about 2.997 due to the short magazine. I measure the distance to my lands at 2.385. So of the SAAMI spec, I calculate my freebore is = .2574. I found a good load with ELDX's in another rifle .02-.03 off of...

Are your list of all powders basically displaying max charge?

Thanks DrMike! Would 4064 be your choice then? I don't see it on the other list. I do have some MRP though, would that be a good one? I was thinking MRP/RL22, retumbo, rl26.

Here's a fun challenge if anyone is bored - can quick-load provide a few good loads for a 25/284 with a Berger 133 or the new 134 ELD-M? I have the 25-06 load data from Berger and am interested in comparing. I just emailed Hornady as well.

I think ramshot imported norma, hogdon bought ramshot, and that was that. Too bad because MRP is awesome in my 25-06

My least favorite used to be weighing powder until I got a chargemaster. That's still probably the slowest step. I'd probably say trimming or cleaning lube off after resizing.

I used to shoot them too. Grouped right with but did not perform as well as the ABs, had a few incidents of them kind of grenading on impact. Switched to Accubonds and haven't looked back (until I run out)

You left out my favorite though - Accubonds! We do have Swift I suppose.

At least in the last 20 years, Hornady bullets have always been half what Noslers are.

I bet they are!

Thanks for the great responses

I have the 7mm bug and am dreaming of some sort of faster twist rifle in something like - 7 SAUM, 7PRC, even 7 rem mag. I saw the opposite question recently - lighter bullets in a 7PRC. But I'm wondering what opinions are on the best heavier .284 bullet would be, for elk sized game, etc...

Never! I hate brakes.

I'm with you, but this is my kids first rifle he's not going to be happy sending 250grs downrange. I like the sound of a 140 A Frame. I'm a 30 cal guy myself but the kids 7mm08 might be my gateway into the 7mms!

Thanks DrMike. I've seen a few suggestion to drop down to a 120 TTSX for the mono to get the speed up. I was thinking 150 ELDX would be a good practice round for the price, but it might be a decent hunting choice as well.

My plan for the kids' elk gun is 7mm08 with 150 Accubonds. Let's say I can't find Nosler bullets, what would everyone's suggestion be then?