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Surprisingly, Winchester is referring to African game (Lion/leopard). I was wondering about that. Thanks for the info. The BT would make an interesting elk load in that case.

A 160-170 grain BT in .323. There are a lot of non-mag (mauser) whitetail hunters shooting 150 to 170 grains. Keep the more durable 180 grain BT for the 8mm Rem Mag and .325 WSM guys.

I would also like to see Nosler compete directly with some of the other bullet makers and offer some some 8mm bullets in the 170-grain range for us non-magnum guys. Ultimately, the 8mm offerings could really mirror what is offered in 30 caliber, but I guess that is asking a lot. It doesnt't...

Another BT option in 8mm. Something between 165 - 170 grains.

I had some 196 grain bullets available, so I made up some loads with IMR 4064. I was able to get 47.5 grains to average 2569 fps. I tried 48 grains and got 2597 fps, but that was really pushing the pressure ceiling in my rifle. I would not recomend that load. I have noticed that the load...

I have shot one deer with the Berger 168 grain VLD (30-06). They do make small entrance holes. I made one quartering shot that did not exit and finished with a neck shot that left a exit hole about the size of a quarter. What is interesting is this deer did what some others on the thread had...

Cartridge : 8 x 57 mm Mauser (SAAMI) Bullet : .323, 200, Nosler PART SP 35277 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch or 82.55 mm Barrel Length : 22.0 inch or 558.8 mm Powder : IMR 4350 The highest velocity I got for this load was 2665 fps. It was averaging around 2625 fps.

Thanks POP. If I am reading things correctly, and I use the advertised velocities and your pressures, it should look like this: Grains Vel Density Press Comments 46.0 2638 89.0 49475 Near Maximum 46.5 2662 90.3 51900 Near Maximum 47.0 2686 91.5 52500 Near Maximum...

Sure Dubyam. I will let you know what I find. That IMR 4064 load may be a possibility, depending on pressures. Thanks for the info.

Thanks POP. I will approach the top end slowly. If you are still out there, could you run one more load through your program? I am interested in seeing where this powder will max out (58,200 psi): Powder : IMR 4064 Grains: 46 Velocity: 2638 fps Cartridge : 8 x 57 mm Mauser (SAAMI) Bullet...

Thanks for the warning Pop! I know the US (SAAMI) lists the max pressure at around 35,000 P.S.I. due to the .318 rifles out there. I have a Remington Classic. Accurate Powders uses European specs in their data and they say a newer .323 rifle can be loaded 58,200 P.S.I. So I should be ok...

Thanks for the confirmation and the quick response!

I own a mint condition 8mm Mauser (.323). I have seen references to a Nosler load for a 200 grain partition with 52 grains of IMR4350 at a mv of 2698 fps on the internet. That is the fastest load I have seen listed for a 200 grain bullet in 8mm mauser. Is that info correct? That load is...