150 long range accubonds
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I shoot them in mine. They shoot very well. They are more finicky than any other butler I have ever tried in that rifle, but I was able to get them to shoot,
I had ok luck with RL-22, good luck with 7828ssc, and ended up settling with H4831. Getting right around 3050. I was never able to get them to shoot much faster than that and maintain groups. But 3050 seems to do the trick. The last two years I have shot two nice mule deer bucks in Idaho with them. One @ 450 and one @ 80 yards. I was very impressed with performance on both.
I recently did a ladder test with RL-23 and the 150 ABLR. Still couldn't get above the 3050, but I ran out of case capacity before I got pressure. I can't load mine out as far as I would like, or I would try the 168 ABLR. Might just have to try and modify my mag box some.
I had ok luck with RL-22, good luck with 7828ssc, and ended up settling with H4831. Getting right around 3050. I was never able to get them to shoot much faster than that and maintain groups. But 3050 seems to do the trick. The last two years I have shot two nice mule deer bucks in Idaho with them. One @ 450 and one @ 80 yards. I was very impressed with performance on both.
I recently did a ladder test with RL-23 and the 150 ABLR. Still couldn't get above the 3050, but I ran out of case capacity before I got pressure. I can't load mine out as far as I would like, or I would try the 168 ABLR. Might just have to try and modify my mag box some.
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NWBlacktail
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jmad_81":1l7ya8wn said:
That's the part that concerns me, I've heard that more then a few times. Not sure if the same is true about the 168 ABLR, or that just not a lot of folks are running them.
The 160 grn AB is fairly attractive. Pretty hight BC, and stout bullet. I wish they made a standard .284 150 grn AB.
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The 150 grain ABLR shoots very well in my .280 Remington. It has accounted for a very nice mule deer and a great 6X6 elk so far.
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muzz":3mu6g0fy said:
I don't mean to sound like a smart @$$...but don't believe everything you hear...I trust JD338 and Dr. Mike's assessment of the ABLR bullets.
Besides.....there is NO WAY the bullet can completely blow up....the boattail is solid gilding metal...they behave somewhat like a Berger bullet, thats what kills quickly...then the lower part of the bullet (about 75 grains worth in 7mm bullets) holds together for penetration.
Would I use them for grizzly? No...but for any type of deer I believe they'll do fine.
I've got 400 of them and am looking forward to loading them....I haven't found a bullet yet that I couldn't get to shoot...these don't scare me :lol:
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They hold together fine. My buck this year was 80 yards. Put it right on the shoulder, in all honesty one of the cleanest kills/wounds channels I have ever seen. I will admit I was supremely shocked at how cean it was and that it exited out the offside shoulder.
Me thinks every bullet out there has a horror story.
With that said I'd look at what I wanted to use, work up a load, and get to practicing. When it comes time to eat the pudding, the proof is in the pudding they say, I'd pay attention to where I want to place my bullet and get to shooting.
Case in point, I'm using a Barnes bullet and realize my behind the shoulder shot doesn't always work good and I'd be better served putting the bullet in the shoulder and losing a little meat.
I suggest looking at your bullet, the game you seek, and maybe reconsider where you want to place that bullet. You may conclude that inside 300 Yards you want to aim for the shoulder and past 300 Yards the behind the shoulder shot will work better for you or vice versa.
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With that said I'd look at what I wanted to use, work up a load, and get to practicing. When it comes time to eat the pudding, the proof is in the pudding they say, I'd pay attention to where I want to place my bullet and get to shooting.
Case in point, I'm using a Barnes bullet and realize my behind the shoulder shot doesn't always work good and I'd be better served putting the bullet in the shoulder and losing a little meat.
I suggest looking at your bullet, the game you seek, and maybe reconsider where you want to place that bullet. You may conclude that inside 300 Yards you want to aim for the shoulder and past 300 Yards the behind the shoulder shot will work better for you or vice versa.
Vince
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I wouldn't sweat them holding up well enough for deer or even elk. Unless your pushing them REALLY hard, ie over 3200 or better and shooting extremely close. I ran the 168 ABLR at 3100 and 150 ABLR from the 270WSM into jugs and they both did fine. I was a little put off by the retained weight then it kinda dawned on me, I don't get to shoot deer right off my muzzle very often..
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=25102&p=248041#p248041
Stole JD's test for the 168. With the 7mm WSM it came out at 3075 and looked about the same.
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=27201
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=25102&p=248041#p248041
Stole JD's test for the 168. With the 7mm WSM it came out at 3075 and looked about the same.
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=27201
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I have absolutely no concern about the 150 grain ABLR holding up at close or at long range. The elk I took with that bullet was taken at ~75 yards; the mule deer at ~40 yards. No bullet recovered from either animal. I heard all sorts of horror stories when AccuBonds first came out. Internet ninjas had all sorts of first-hand stories of how the bullets "penciled through" game, allowing the animals to run as far as ten yards! Don't hear such stories so much now.
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SJB358":349ngvi4 said:
A picture is worth a 1000 words x2.
The ABLR's hold up well up close.
JD338
