22-250 bullet choice?

[Silentstalker]

So i have a factory 700 in 22-250. I think it has a 1 in 14 twist?? Based on that what would be a good " heavier" bullet? Looking for a bullet to mostly kill coyotes and possibly an occasional antelope. Could i stabilize a 60 gr. Partition? Should i just go with a 55 gr. ballistic silvertip? My rifle already shoots a 50 gr. vmax under an inch. I would love to shoot that Partition if its likely to shoot well.

 

[wisconsinteacher]

If antelope are on the menu, I would look at the Partition.

 

[muleman]

The 60gr Partition the 64gr BSB! Those are the only two I would consider for anything larger than a coyote. They'll hold together and give you the penetration.

Scott

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

My Father's Rem 700 shot the 55 grain Ballistic tip with 39 grains of H380 into bugholes. But as was said it depends on what you plan to shoot with it whether or not you should change. If its only for coyotes, prairie dogs, etc. I would stay with the v-max. But if antelope or occasional deer were to be your potential targets, a 60 grain Partition should be considered mandatory minimum in my humble opinion.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

 

[Silentstalker]

Thanks guys. I think the Partition is really my choice. I will let you know how it goes. I wont hunt deer wit it but itshould be plenty for antelope.

 

[wnc-coyote]

I do not think you stabilize a 60gr. I would look at the sierra 55gr SBT Gameking. I Have tried the 60gr PT in my encore with a 1-14" twist with no luck. I am able to shoot the sierra's very well though. You would have to be very sure about you shot on a deer sized animal though. You may also want to look at the barnes 50gr TSX, I have heard very good things about their performance..

 

[usmc 89]

Barnes 53g triple shock, used them in my 22-243 middlested at 4000 fps on antelope, they work. Pm me i have a few left over you can have. Dont be afraif to use them on deer either.

 

[nvbroncrider]

Like others have said the 60 PT and the 64 BSB for game if your shooting just varmints look no farther than the 55 BT. My rifle shoots 5 in under 1/4 inch behind 39 gr of CFE223.

 

[Silentstalker]

I will give a few of those bullets a try. Usmc 89 i sent you a pm. I would love to try those barnes and i think i will try some partitions and 55 gr. sierras. What is the 64 bsb bullet? Thanks for all the advice. I appreciate it!

 

[onesonek]

I'm in the camp of the twist issue's on anything over 55 grain in a 12" twist normally. However, MV can have some effect on that to a point. Then too, the 64 gr. BSB has a different nose profile that may work. I believe Nolser recommends 12" on the 60 gr. PT. I can't remember the twist JD338 tested 64 BSB in. I was thinking 12" too, but it may have been a 14" . I'm sure he'll chime in soon as he see's this. Otherwise, I would look to the Barnes mono mentioned myself, if those wants of application were mine also.

 

[onesonek]

Just remebered this,,,,
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=18868

 

[baltz526]

Bullet length + weight is what needs to be considered. This is the list of length/weight that work in my 788 24" 1-14" twist 22-250. All shot at over 3250fps. 64gr win PP .805", 70gr speer semi-pointed .790", 55gr ballistic tip .810". The Partition 60gr also shot very well but I have no bullet to measure. The 64gr nosler PP bonded is .790" and has a profile much like the 70gr speer. I fully expect it to work well also. The powder I use with all these bullets is H414/W760 with a hot primer. Best accuracy for my rifle has been with the CCI250 in ww brass. The most accurate load I have ever shot uses the 64gr winchester power point.

 

[Silentstalker]

Thank you Baltz.

 

[JD338]

The .224 60 gr PT will not stabilize in a 1:14 twist but the new 64 gr BSB will.

I also think there are better caliber choices available for antelope and deer, starting with 6mm/ .243 cal.
The .257 cal is even better.

JD338

 

[onesonek]

Bullet length + weight is what needs to be considered. This is the list of length/weight that work in my 788 24" 1-14" twist 22-250. All shot at over 3250fps. 64gr win PP .805", 70gr speer semi-pointed .790", 55gr ballistic tip .810". The Partition 60gr also shot very well bu

This is somewhat a common misconception or use. I use to go by this as well.
It still is used by many because, for most it is hard to get an accurate measure of the nose length, ogive radius, and meplat,,(nose "profile")
But the reality of it is, nose "profile" to center of mass that determines twist rate. Length is part of the equation, but without the rest, don't give the true answer. At least that's what I have been told by all the barrel makers I have used.

Then I found out on a ballistic program have, one function allows me to plug in hypothetical or new design bullets, that the barrel markers are right. As altering the nose "profile" to given weight in general has the most effect on suggested twist rate.
Case in point, your list below and the lengths are relatively close, but the heavy's all same general squatty noses, as compared to the light weight 55 BT same general length but sleeker nose. "Profile" mentioned is the key. Then the Mono's throw another CoG issue, generally needing just a bit faster twist of the lead counterparts of the same weight and roughly same nose profile. When borderline on twist, increasing speed with a faster round may get by however. Then again, that can be a crap shoot. The borderline twist, is why the 64 gr. BSB works when the 60 PT won't is a shorter ogive radius, and then the flat meplat, I'm thinking this might explain why you can shoot the 60 gr. PT's and JD found otherwise. Then too when borderline on twist, RPM degradation down range. What may test out stabile initially at relatively close range, may go to pot once one gets out there aways further. The opposite with what may be considered with too fast of twist, not shooting a particular bullet worth a darn up close, say 100 yds or under, but does extremely well further down range. Which is why I will test 100/200/300 yards.

just saying is all

 

[Silentstalker]

Lots of great info here. Thanks again! Just to be clear i would rarely shoot an antelope with this load but think it could be a very lethal gun/load at close range for them. Its more for coyotes and once in a blue moon my daughters hunting from a blind over a trail or waterhole. Under 50 yards. I am confident it will cleanly kill under those parameters.

Also I cant find any listings for that 64 gr. BSB. Where can i get some?

 

[onesonek]

"This is somewhat a common misconception or use."
I should have said, this "Bullet length + weight is what needs to be considered"
is only partially true as commonly figured.

 

[baltz526]

Everything is only partially true. Like with the 60gr Partition, some people can not get it to stabilize in a 1-14" twist barrel. Both my 22-250's that I have reloaded for and shot. Would give under 2" 200yrd groups. Stabil enough for me. My 788 1-14" shot a .585" group at 230yrds shooting 64gr winchester power points at sightin for last deer season. It may be how the Partition is constructed as to why it will not stabilize, more than its length or ogive