222 Remington : 52 grs. A-Max & 55 FMJ - QuickLoad, please

jagermeister · Dec 18, 2013

Hi Folks,

Is there Anyone who can please run these 3 combinations :

- Norma 200 powder + Hornady A-Max 52 grs. bullet (G1 B.C. 0,247)

- Vihtavuori N133 powder + Hornady 55 grs. FMJ (cannelure) bullet (G1 B.C. 0,243)

- Vihtavuori N133 powder + Lapua 55 grs. FMJ bullet (G1 B.C. 0,251)

....in a 20" barrel length.

Thank you in advance for your help.

:wink:

DrMike · Dec 18, 2013

Code:

Cartridge          : .223 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .224, 52, Hornady A-MAX 22492
Useable Case Capaci: 25.915 grain H2O = 1.683 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder             : Norma 200

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   73    18.16   2584     771   28450   6628     92.9    1.171
-18.0   75    18.61   2646     808   30322   6809     93.9    1.143
-16.0   77    19.07   2707     846   32312   6983     95.0    1.115
-14.0   79    19.52   2768     885   34429   7147     95.9    1.089
-12.0   81    19.98   2829     924   36679   7301     96.7    1.063
-10.0   83    20.43   2889     964   39071   7445     97.4    1.031
-08.0   84    20.88   2949    1004   41614   7578     98.1    1.001
-06.0   86    21.34   3008    1045   44318   7700     98.6    0.973
-04.0   88    21.79   3067    1086   47194   7810     99.1    0.945  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   90    22.25   3125    1128   50255   7907     99.5    0.919  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   92    22.70   3183    1170   53512   7990     99.7    0.893  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   94    23.15   3240    1213   56981   8061     99.9    0.869  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   95    23.61   3297    1255   60678   8117    100.0    0.845  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   97    24.06   3353    1298   64621   8162    100.0    0.822  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0   99    24.52   3408    1341   68830   8204    100.0    0.800  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  101    24.97   3463    1385   73325   8243    100.0    0.779  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     92    22.70   3312    1267   64156   7661    100.0    0.826  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     92    22.70   2997    1037   43130   7999     95.8    0.984

Code:

Cartridge          : .223 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .224, 55, Hornady FMJ-BT w/c 2267
Useable Case Capaci: 26.532 grain H2O = 1.723 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N133

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   86    19.28   2501     764   28434   6356     91.0    1.164
-18.0   88    19.76   2560     801   30313   6543     92.2    1.135
-16.0   90    20.24   2619     838   32318   6723     93.3    1.107
-14.0   93    20.73   2678     876   34457   6895     94.3    1.080
-12.0   95    21.21   2736     914   36740   7059     95.3    1.053
-10.0   97    21.69   2795     954   39178   7214     96.1    1.023
-08.0   99    22.17   2853     994   41785   7359     96.9    0.994
-06.0  101    22.65   2911    1035   44572   7494     97.6    0.966
-04.0  103    23.14   2969    1076   47547   7617     98.2    0.939  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    23.62   3026    1118   50701   7729     98.8    0.913  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  108    24.10   3083    1161   54064   7829     99.2    0.888  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  110    24.58   3140    1204   57660   7916     99.5    0.864  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    25.06   3196    1247   61509   7990     99.8    0.841  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  114    25.55   3252    1291   65633   8049     99.9    0.818  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  116    26.03   3307    1336   70056   8095    100.0    0.796  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  118    26.51   3362    1380   74805   8130    100.0    0.775  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    24.10   3207    1256   64133   7576    100.0    0.828  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    24.10   2910    1034   44284   7714     94.4    0.966

Code:

Cartridge          : .223 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .224, 55, Lapua FMJ S538        5010
Useable Case Capaci: 26.729 grain H2O = 1.735 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N133

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   86    19.36   2503     765   28415   6394     91.1    1.164
-18.0   88    19.84   2562     801   30290   6582     92.3    1.135
-16.0   90    20.33   2621     839   32290   6763     93.4    1.107
-14.0   92    20.81   2679     877   34422   6936     94.4    1.080
-12.0   94    21.30   2738     915   36699   7100     95.3    1.053
-10.0   97    21.78   2796     955   39131   7256     96.2    1.023
-08.0   99    22.26   2854     995   41729   7402     97.0    0.994
-06.0  101    22.75   2912    1036   44506   7537     97.7    0.966
-04.0  103    23.23   2970    1077   47463   7661     98.3    0.940  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    23.72   3027    1119   50598   7774     98.8    0.914  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  107    24.20   3084    1162   53942   7874     99.2    0.889  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  109    24.68   3141    1204   57517   7961     99.5    0.864  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    25.17   3197    1248   61342   8035     99.8    0.841  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  114    25.65   3252    1292   65438   8095     99.9    0.819  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  116    26.14   3307    1336   69828   8141    100.0    0.797  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  118    26.62   3362    1380   74541   8177    100.0    0.776  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    107    24.20   3208    1257   63963   7619    100.0    0.829  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    107    24.20   2911    1035   44196   7761     94.5    0.967

jagermeister · Dec 18, 2013

Doc...... "speed is fine but accuracy kills"...... :roll:

It's a 222 .....:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I am grateful to you anyway :wink:

SJB358 · Dec 18, 2013

jagermeister":1kqk0x5f said:
Hi Folks,

Is there Anyone who can please run these 3 combinations :

- Norma 200 powder + Hornady A-Max 52 grs. bullet (G1 B.C. 0,247)

- Vihtavuori N133 powder + Hornady 55 grs. FMJ (cannelure) bullet (G1 B.C. 0,243)

- Vihtavuori N133 powder + Lapua 55 grs. FMJ bullet (G1 B.C. 0,251)

....in a 20" barrel length.

Thank you in advance for your help.

:wink:

I almost did the same thing Doc did. Let me know if this works.

Cartridge : .222 Rem.
Bullet : .224, 52, Hornady A-MAX 22492
Useable Case Capaci: 23.311 grain H2O = 1.514 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.130 inch = 54.10 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder : Norma 200

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 86 19.17 2840 932 38681 6902 96.4 1.030
-09.0 87 19.38 2871 952 39964 6970 96.8 1.015
-08.0 88 19.60 2901 972 41290 7034 97.2 1.000
-07.0 89 19.81 2931 992 42660 7096 97.5 0.985
-06.0 90 20.02 2961 1013 44076 7155 97.9 0.970
-05.0 91 20.24 2991 1033 45540 7212 98.2 0.956
-04.0 92 20.45 3021 1054 47052 7265 98.5 0.942 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 93 20.66 3051 1075 48618 7316 98.7 0.928 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 20.87 3081 1096 50236 7363 98.9 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 95 21.09 3110 1117 51910 7408 99.2 0.902 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 21.30 3140 1139 53641 7450 99.3 0.889 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 97 21.51 3169 1160 55432 7488 99.5 0.876 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 98 21.73 3199 1181 57286 7523 99.6 0.864 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 99 21.94 3228 1203 59205 7555 99.8 0.852 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 22.15 3257 1225 61191 7583 99.9 0.839 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 101 22.37 3286 1247 63249 7608 99.9 0.828 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 21.30 3276 1239 64836 7150 100.0 0.821 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 21.30 2946 1002 42840 7392 94.5 0.981

Cartridge : .222 Rem.
Bullet : .224, 55, Hornady FMJ-BT w/c 2267
Useable Case Capaci: 23.931 grain H2O = 1.554 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.130 inch = 54.10 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder : Vihtavuori N133

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 98 19.80 2676 875 36065 6485 93.8 1.056
-09.0 99 20.02 2705 894 37234 6560 94.3 1.043
-08.0 100 20.24 2734 913 38443 6632 94.8 1.028
-07.0 101 20.46 2762 932 39692 6703 95.2 1.013
-06.0 102 20.68 2791 951 40983 6772 95.6 0.999
-05.0 104 20.90 2819 971 42323 6839 96.1 0.985
-04.0 105 21.12 2848 991 43709 6903 96.5 0.971
-03.0 106 21.34 2877 1011 45143 6965 96.8 0.957
-02.0 107 21.56 2905 1031 46626 7025 97.2 0.944
-01.0 108 21.78 2934 1051 48165 7082 97.5 0.931 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 22.00 2962 1071 49758 7137 97.8 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 110 22.22 2990 1092 51408 7188 98.1 0.905 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 22.44 3019 1113 53117 7238 98.4 0.893 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 112 22.66 3047 1134 54891 7284 98.6 0.880 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 22.88 3075 1155 56728 7328 98.9 0.868 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 114 23.10 3103 1176 58638 7369 99.1 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 22.00 3097 1172 59467 7013 100.0 0.854 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 22.00 2781 945 40804 6903 91.6 1.000

Cartridge : .222 Rem.
Bullet : .224, 55, Lapua FMJ S382 5001
Useable Case Capaci: 24.124 grain H2O = 1.566 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.130 inch = 54.10 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder : Vihtavuori N133

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 20.14 2711 897 37346 6612 94.4 1.041
-09.0 100 20.37 2740 917 38572 6686 94.9 1.026
-08.0 101 20.59 2769 936 39839 6758 95.3 1.011
-07.0 102 20.81 2798 956 41151 6828 95.8 0.997
-06.0 103 21.04 2827 976 42509 6895 96.2 0.982
-05.0 104 21.26 2856 996 43915 6960 96.6 0.969
-04.0 106 21.48 2885 1016 45370 7023 97.0 0.955
-03.0 107 21.71 2913 1037 46879 7083 97.3 0.941 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 108 21.93 2942 1057 48440 7140 97.6 0.928 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 109 22.16 2971 1078 50058 7195 97.9 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 22.38 3000 1099 51736 7247 98.2 0.902 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 111 22.60 3028 1120 53474 7297 98.5 0.890 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 22.83 3057 1141 55280 7343 98.7 0.877 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 113 23.05 3085 1162 57151 7387 99.0 0.865 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 23.28 3114 1184 59089 7428 99.2 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 115 23.50 3142 1206 61091 7465 99.4 0.841 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 22.38 3132 1198 61786 7084 100.0 0.840 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 22.38 2820 971 42384 7046 92.4 0.983

DrMike · Dec 18, 2013

I still had something in my eye after reading pre6422hornet's post. :shock: Mea culpa. I thought I clicked the 222 Rem which is just above the 223 Rem on the drop down menu.

jagermeister · Dec 20, 2013

Thank you Guys for your great help ! :grin:

Merry Christmas :wink:

SJB358 · Dec 20, 2013

jagermeister":1hy0mlya said:
Thank you Guys for your great help ! :grin:

Merry Christmas :wink:

Merry Christmas to you as well.

jagermeister · Jan 6, 2014

Hi Guys, I have tried this combination :

Hornady A-max 52 x 21 grs. Norma 200 - Oal : 56,30

I have tested @ 100 meters and chronoed it.
It runs 3000 fps in a 35 degrees temp
Not bad precisionwise. Need to re-test....

I guess the lower speed is due to the colder temp..........right ? :roll:

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